You're drawing too hard a line. There is some petulance and hatemongering that TSG could do without, but most of the mods try to be reasonable.
One of them was a huge tool and ass. To me personally as well. But that's never been my issue with them. If you want to get into more details and why I don't like them. PM me on VSN because I don't feel like talking about it here and two even with saying that, contrary to popular belief I don't try to shut down or censor conversations.
Eh, I'm sure you guys mean well but this type of thing isn't really convincing me to abandon the site.
She talks to herself with sockpuppets, tried to get our forum shut down by proboards after we banned her while raving that she's such a professional forum builder that she even inspired Stanley Woo himself, and will spam IMVU porn at you if you gaze too long into that abyss.
But it's your choice.
Then I suppose https://realdragonagefans.forums.net/ would be the next option.
Ehhhh if I could go back in time and handle things better I would but foresight is 20/20 and all that.
It would just be good at this point if the energy of TSG vs. VSN could dissipate somehow. I don't think it was ever JW's intention.
She talks to herself with sockpuppets, tried to get our forum shut down by proboards after we banned her while raving that she's such a professional forum builder that she even inspired Stanley Woo himself, and will spam IMVU porn at you if you gaze too long into that abyss.
But it's your choice.
How charming.
I just read the post about closing down the forum again. If I didn't already know that the their "reason" for this was just PR bullshit than I would have only one though:
All those people that gathered here, all those threads some with thousands of posts. Did Bioware really thought that all of that was done just because people were waiting for them to talk with us. I mean how full of yourself can you get?
Here you go: http://cassandrasatu...-cassandra.htmlI recommend running for the hills. Some of the highlights include being an Airforce Pilot as a kid and being a member of the Earth Defense Force
Wtf did I just read.. 
The thought of Cassandra having that many people's IP addresses alone is troubling.
While we're speaking in I'd rathers, I'd rather the split had never happened.
I'm glad they found a space they're more comfortable in. It has turned out better for all parties involved.
Eh, I'm sure you guys mean well but this type of thing isn't really convincing me to abandon the site.
Likewise. I already made my real home on RDF but I am curious to see how this other forum goes whether it lasts or not, and if it does last, then it's a nice alternative for those who want something similar. If not, I have my main forum at least.
And I can't judge people or won't judge people I never met based on past history.
Far more successful devs disagree.
I think you're confusing "developper" as a company and "developper" as a work.
One thing I can guarantee you - the skillset to develop games has absolutely nothing in common with the one to manage community. Some guys have both, but you don't recruit your C++ coder because he can do PR speech on a forum - it's just a happy coincidence, or you're recruiting for a post with multiple aspects.
Notice : I don't mean that dev CAN'T or SHOULDN'T post on forums. I mean it's not their work, and you can't expect that from them. And if they do, holding them to super-high standard and being vindicative toward them is going to burn them out of posting after a while.
Paradox, Blizzard, Frontier Developments and CDPR would like to disagree with you there.
No they won't. It's not because they DO interact that it's their JOB.
Blizzard dev actually rarely post outside of the one or two official spokepersons, the rest are actual community manager.
Paradox and CDPR do it because there is less antagonism/toxicity there, but if they start to be subject to regular abuse and insult, you can bet they'll stop. You can also bet they do it mainly outside their working hours - because, again, it's not their job. They do it because they love it, because interacting with fans, when it's constructive, is extremely gratifying and rewarding. If fans start to act like entitled dicks and turn their pleasure into annoyance, they'll stop. That's as simple as that, and that's pretty much in line with what happened to Bioware dev.
Wtf did I just read..
The thoughts of one of the more.... "interesting" persons who graced these forums with their presence over the years.
I don't see why you couldn't just wash your hands of it (you already have) and leave us to ourselves. I mean, you already have, really. There hasn't been any developer presence for years now, the moderation has always been a joke, at best. I don't see why just now you're all deciding it's too much. You left long ago.
We can't have fun talking to each other anymore unless we go to places where we're not wanted.
The Big Bang Theory is incredibly offensive, I think. They have all these nerdy references, and then nothing. The nerdiness isn't the platform for jokes; the nerdiness is the joke.Things like video games may have become more popular, but being a gamer or any kind of geek/nerd/whatever is still a bad thing, according to society. Seriously, if you have any non-geek friends and you play tabletop games, don't tell them or they'll probably stop interacting with you. You have people like Devin Faraci wanting to return to the days when nerds were bullied in school (little does he know, they still are) and Robyn Vinter who thinks someone striking up small talk about Pokemon Go is sexual harassment. Personally, I blame The Big Bang Theory more than anything, people aren't wrong when they say that show is blackface for geeks.
and two even with saying that, contrary to popular belief I don't try to shut down or censor conversations.
That's my job.
It would just be good at this point if the energy of TSG vs. VSN could dissipate somehow. I don't think it was ever JW's intention.
That's more Puddi's and Geth's thing. Most of Vsn never really mentions it. I was sure many members posted on both though i've never checked.
Wtf did I just read..
If you knew that we would have called the mental asylum on you. 
Likewise. I already made my real home on RDF but I am curious to see how this other forum goes whether it lasts or not, and if it does last, then it's a nice alternative for those who want something similar. If not, I have my main forum at least.
And I can't judge people or won't judge people I never met based on past history.
I'll make an account for RDF eventually. No need to limit myself.
The Big Bang Theory is incredibly offensive, I think. They have all these nerdy references, and then nothing. The nerdiness isn't the platform for jokes; the nerdiness is the joke.
For what minority group would that be even vaguely acceptable? So why is it okay for nerds.
No one has ever cared for nerds in the slightest, that much is clear. I mean, look at all the recent approaches in game publishing and the assorted cycles (journalists, for example). The current trend is "games don't have to be about nerdy people anymore, we want the hip, new audience, "gamers" don't matter, etc, etc".
No one has ever cared for nerds in the slightest, that much is clear. I mean, look at all the recent approaches in game publishing and the assorted cycles (journalists, for example). The current trend is "games don't have to be about nerdy people anymore, we want the hip, new audience, "gamers" don't matter, etc, etc".
"Gamers don't have to be your audience. Gamers are over."
"Gamers don't have to be your audience. Gamers are over."
The gaming industry is a twisted thing
It would just be good at this point if the energy of TSG vs. VSN could dissipate somehow. I don't think it was ever JW's intention.
It wasn't, she just wanted to make a forum for her gaming channel. I think she went ahead and launched Topshelf when she did because a couple of people got banned and she wanted them to have a place to go to. She is extremely nice and really passionate about gaming, there is no bad blood or ill feelings between her and I at all. As a matter of fact, we spent like 2 hours the other day talking back and forth on Steam XD
That's more Puddi's and Geth's thing. Most of Vsn never really mentions it. I was sure many members posted on both though i've never checked.
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