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#2151
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If only the Witcher series allowed for a female PC...I know it's based on a series of books written by Andrzej Sapkowski where the protagonist is a man, but I don't know. It's a video game. Its universe can be expanded beyond the books. [/size]


I've always found this the silliest possible complaint. It's like picking up a Die Hard game and being annoyed you're Bruce Willis.

I remember when Final Fantasy XIII was first announced and people were angry about having to play a female character. They were largely mocked. As they should have been. I'll never understand why the opposite complaint, not wanting to play a male character, is somehow credible.
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#2152
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Did this thread's title change to "Place to bash people in the gaming industry you don't like" while I was out of the room? What the hell, guys?


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Tale of Tales might be up there. After their game Sunset predictably bombed they screamed "F gamers! F the games industry!" and then wished for gamers everywhere to die in agony. I'm not making that up either.

 

I haven't played Sunset (nor do I have any inclination to), so I can't give them any awards.

 

But yeah, I was around for that fiasco too.

 

I used to somewhat like indie games and indie devs, but now it seems like ever since GamerGate started, they've shown us just how much they hate us. Jonathan Blow, Phil Fish, Tommy Refenes, Tale of Tales, Beamdog, Digital Homicide, just about every semi-prominent indie dev I can think of, they all make garbage and then ****** their pants in anger when people call their bad games bad.


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#2154
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What do you think happened with ME3's ending? There was a strong enough response to cause change.



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#2155
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Your voice is louder when it is respectful. Call them out by all means, but do so with critique, not insult. I'm not a happy camper either. I wouldn't be in here if I were. What do you think happened with ME3's ending? There was a strong enough response to cause change. I doubt they listed to those who didn't give them anything to go on. They listen to those who (while can still fully be unhappy with the situation) give them constructive criticism

 

Twitter, email, whatever you have at your disposal. It's better than not saying anything. 

 

They listened because the whole thing overblow all over the internet , and the media jumped on it.


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I loved playing dice poker in W1 & 2.

 

Gwent took some getting used to but once I figured it out and tweaked my deck properly, it was golden.


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#2157
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I've always found this the silliest possible complaint. It's like picking up a Die Hard game and being annoyed you're Bruce Willis.

I remember when Final Fantasy XIII was first announced and people were angry about having to play a female character. They were largely mocked. As they should have been. I'll never understand why the opposite complaint, not wanting to play a male character, is somehow credible.

 

I don't remember much of anyone actually being mad about Lightning being a woman in FF13, but I do remember a lot of Polygon/Kotaku/Gamasutra/garbage taking the same 5 random anon tweets and using them as proof of "LOOk HOW SEXIST DUR GAEMERS R, DEY HAET WOMYN" and *telling us* how people hated playing as a woman.



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Your voice is louder when it is respectful. Call them out by all means, but do so with critique, not insult. I'm not a happy camper either. I wouldn't be in here if I were. What do you think happened with ME3's ending? There was a strong enough response to cause change. I doubt they listed to those who didn't give them anything to go on. They listen to those who (while can still fully be unhappy with the situation) give them constructive criticism

 

Twitter, email, whatever you have at your disposal. It's better than not saying anything. 

 

The problem is that, like David Gaider said, Bioware already thought closing the BSN was long overdue.

 

I don't think insulting the company will achieve anything either, but what will trying to talk to them do at this point?

 

They see no problem in taking an action that will have an irreversible consequence: fragment the community. Some of them are even happy about it.

 

The rest of us will just have to sit and watch the people with whom we've interacted over 10+ years spread all over alternate social networks, scattered to the four winds.


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If only the Witcher series allowed for a female PC...I know it's based on a series of books written by Andrzej Sapkowski where the protagonist is a man, but I don't know. It's a video game. Its universe can be expanded beyond the books. 

My gripe as well. And I've read the books and liked them. I'm really looking forward to Cyberpunk though, hoping for more choice in the protagonist department. Still Bioware games make the day for me.


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I've always found this the silliest possible complaint. It's like picking up a Die Hard game and being annoyed you're Bruce Willis.

I remember when Final Fantasy XIII was first announced and people were angry about having to play a female character. They were largely mocked. As they should have been. I'll never understand why the opposite complaint, not wanting to play a male character, is somehow credible.

 

I once saw someone on the BSN complaining about having to play as a white guy in the Arkham games. So... yeah.


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I loved playing dice poker in W1 & 2.

 

Gwent took some getting used to but once I figured it out and tweaked my deck properly, it was golden.

Not only that. They're not killing off their official forum. Also, they don't have mantra "our fans are important to us". History repeats itself, mantra was just a lie.



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This thread has totally devolved into: "THEY SAY WE'RE TOXIC? HOW DARE THEY. I ALWAYS [insert string of toxic comments broken up into dozens of posts]."


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My gripe as well. And I've read the books and liked them. I'm really looking forward to Cyberpunk though, hoping for more choice in the protagonist department. Still Bioware games make the day for me.

They have talked about how Ctberpunk 2077 will have a lot of choice in the protagonist department, since they want to capture the range of options you have in the pen and paper games. One of the things specifically mentioned is being able to play as male or female. 


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They have talked about how Ctberpunk 2077 will have a lot of choice in the protagonist department, since they want to capture the range of options you have in the pen and paper games. One of the things specifically mentioned is being able to play as male or female. 

 

It actually makes sense for CP2077 to have character customization, unlike The Witcher. If the Witcher games were side stories set in the universe of the Witcher, then being able to play as a woman would be fine by me, but it's Geralt's story they're telling, and Geralt isn't a woman.


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Guys, we aren't going to talk them out of it no matter what


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My gripe as well. And I've read the books and liked them. I'm really looking forward to Cyberpunk though, hoping for more choice in the protagonist department. Still Bioware games make the day for me.


I'm keeping an eye on that game as well. It's good to hear that we can play as a woman. Hope they've learned from some of the mistakes they made with how The Witcher sometimes treated women.

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Your voice is louder when it is respectful. Call them out by all means, but do so with critique, not insult. I'm not a happy camper either. I wouldn't be in here if I were. What do you think happened with ME3's ending? There was a strong enough response to cause change. I doubt they listed to those who didn't give them anything to go on. They listen to those who (while can still fully be unhappy with the situation) give them constructive criticism.

Twitter, email, whatever you have at your disposal. It's better than not saying anything.


Haha. That's rich, coming from you.

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Been here since the very start in 2009...

 

Anyone of you other old geezers/veterans remember the old old forums back in 2007 or so? dayyum


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They have talked about how Ctberpunk 2077 will have a lot of choice in the protagonist department, since they want to capture the range of options you have in the pen and paper games. One of the things specifically mentioned is being able to play as male or female. 

That's awesome. I'm pretty chuffed about the fact that they are redirecting resources to this game. And it's not that I cannot play guys in games. They are not as fun as gals. For me  ;) Seriously though, if it's possible the less defined character the better for me, be it a guy or a gal. 



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Look, MEA is coming out next year, so I doubt BW won't have some type of forum out there. If nothing, just to keep their players informed.

 

I would like to know the real reason why. Don't tell me twitter and FB - cause you won't get much of any feedback at those sites. And Reddit? Really?  You'd be better off at Metacritic. Unless not getting feedback is the point.

 

It can't be money - forums are cheap to maintain.


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It's almost like if you s**t on the people who visit your forums and play your games, they begin to resent you.

 

I doubt anyone's going to feel bad about terrible people getting s**t on.



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mistakes they made with how The Witcher sometimes treated women.

 

.... What? It's set in the fantasy version of medieval Poland, itss treatment of women is completely accurate. Its treatment of just about everybody is accurate.


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Been here since the very start in 2009...

 

Anyone of you other old geezers/veterans remember the old old forums back in 2007 or so? dayyum

I still remember the KotOR flavor of "toxicity" - people screaming about having to manually aim the Ebon Hawk's gun turret in that infamous fighter sequence, and how BioWare owed free DLC to the XBox players.



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I doubt anyone's going to feel bad about terrible people getting s**t on.

 

Okay, except are you sure we're "terrible people", or just disgruntled with years of community neglect and the sudden announcement of the social outlet being taken away for no discernible reason?



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I doubt anyone's going to feel bad about terrible people getting s**t on.

 

I'm a super nice guy actually.


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