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[o Ventus]

They have talked about how Ctberpunk 2077 will have a lot of choice in the protagonist department, since they want to capture the range of options you have in the pen and paper games. One of the things specifically mentioned is being able to play as male or female. 

 

It actually makes sense for CP2077 to have character customization, unlike The Witcher. If the Witcher games were side stories set in the universe of the Witcher, then being able to play as a woman would be fine by me, but it's Geralt's story they're telling, and Geralt isn't a woman.

[Steelcan]

Guys, we aren't going to talk them out of it no matter what

[maia0407]

My gripe as well. And I've read the books and liked them. I'm really looking forward to Cyberpunk though, hoping for more choice in the protagonist department. Still Bioware games make the day for me.

I'm keeping an eye on that game as well. It's good to hear that we can play as a woman. Hope they've learned from some of the mistakes they made with how The Witcher sometimes treated women.

[Avejajed]

Your voice is louder when it is respectful. Call them out by all means, but do so with critique, not insult. I'm not a happy camper either. I wouldn't be in here if I were. What do you think happened with ME3's ending? There was a strong enough response to cause change. I doubt they listed to those who didn't give them anything to go on. They listen to those who (while can still fully be unhappy with the situation) give them constructive criticism.

Twitter, email, whatever you have at your disposal. It's better than not saying anything.

Haha. That's rich, coming from you.

[ME_Fan]

Been here since the very start in 2009...

 

Anyone of you other old geezers/veterans remember the old old forums back in 2007 or so? dayyum

[neonmoth]

They have talked about how Ctberpunk 2077 will have a lot of choice in the protagonist department, since they want to capture the range of options you have in the pen and paper games. One of the things specifically mentioned is being able to play as male or female. 

That's awesome. I'm pretty chuffed about the fact that they are redirecting resources to this game. And it's not that I cannot play guys in games. They are not as fun as gals. For me   Seriously though, if it's possible the less defined character the better for me, be it a guy or a gal. 

[elrofrost]

Look, MEA is coming out next year, so I doubt BW won't have some type of forum out there. If nothing, just to keep their players informed.

 

I would like to know the real reason why. Don't tell me twitter and FB - cause you won't get much of any feedback at those sites. And Reddit? Really?  You'd be better off at Metacritic. Unless not getting feedback is the point.

 

It can't be money - forums are cheap to maintain.

[pdusen]

It's almost like if you s**t on the people who visit your forums and play your games, they begin to resent you.

 

I doubt anyone's going to feel bad about terrible people getting s**t on.

[o Ventus]

mistakes they made with how The Witcher sometimes treated women.

 

.... What? It's set in the fantasy version of medieval Poland, itss treatment of women is completely accurate. Its treatment of just about everybody is accurate.

[Gileadan]

Been here since the very start in 2009...

 

Anyone of you other old geezers/veterans remember the old old forums back in 2007 or so? dayyum

I still remember the KotOR flavor of "toxicity" - people screaming about having to manually aim the Ebon Hawk's gun turret in that infamous fighter sequence, and how BioWare owed free DLC to the XBox players.

[o Ventus]

I doubt anyone's going to feel bad about terrible people getting s**t on.

 

Okay, except are you sure we're "terrible people", or just disgruntled with years of community neglect and the sudden announcement of the social outlet being taken away for no discernible reason?

[SnakeCode]

I doubt anyone's going to feel bad about terrible people getting s**t on.

 

I'm a super nice guy actually.

[Khayness]

Been here since the very start in 2009...

 

Anyone of you other old geezers/veterans remember the old old forums back in 2007 or so? dayyum

 

And I thought back in the old forum Handheld was weird because he talked in third person.

 

Then the millennials learned to use the internet.

[Puddi III]

Been here since the very start in 2009...
 
Anyone of you other old geezers/veterans remember the old old forums back in 2007 or so? dayyum

I posted a question once about the mechanics of the Beholder familiar's eye beams in Hordes of the Underdark, and was active on the NWN2forums after that. I think dunniteowl was carried over as a community moderator here, but like most of the others had diminished presence as the place changed. Eurypterid too.

The place was fine when we had so many active community mods, but it seems they didn't bother finding more as the old ones became inactive for various reasons.

[elrofrost]

Well if drama is the reason - ok. But man, this is the internet. Every forum, even FB has issues with drama. People have died on FB. So I don't know.

 

I've read and been apart of some [fun] flame wars on this site. But they are nothing compared to what I've seen on Reddit or 4chan.

[neonmoth]

It actually makes sense for CP2077 to have character customization, unlike The Witcher. If the Witcher games were side stories set in the universe of the Witcher, then being able to play as a woman would be fine by me, but it's Geralt's story they're telling, and Geralt isn't a woman.

There is absolutely nothing wrong about Geralt being the protagonist of TW games. As you say, it only makes sense. I like the books and his character there. He's equally likeable in the games. But I like blank slates for characters more, and predict that Cyberpunk will be more to my liking. I'm a cyberpunk genre junky anyway.

[Morty Smith]

I'm a super nice guy actually.

 

That's what everyone says who makes lampshades out of human skin. Only one date.

[ME_Fan]

Haha yeah. I remember Gmagnum, ninja Stanley Woo, and the dark ages of 2011 post DA2. But also the good times too haha.

 

Its sad its all over, I've been on and off *Bioware* forums for nearly 10 years now, but life goes on haha.

[Rifneno]

I don't remember much of anyone actually being mad about Lightning being a woman in FF13, but I do remember a lot of Polygon/Kotaku/Gamasutra/garbage taking the same 5 random anon tweets and using them as proof of "LOOk HOW SEXIST DUR GAEMERS R, DEY HAET WOMYN" and *telling us* how people hated playing as a woman.

I saw it. It wasn't as common as the feminist propaganda machine made it out to be, but it was out there.
 
 

I once saw someone on the BSN complaining about having to play as a white guy in the Arkham games. So... yeah.

 
Misanthropy. Sometimes it just makes sense.
 

I'm keeping an eye on that game as well. It's good to hear that we can play as a woman. Hope they've learned from some of the mistakes they made with how The Witcher sometimes treated women.

[ME_Fan]

This is now officially a nostalgia thread haha

[SnakeCode]

Anyone remember a poster called Brushyourteeth? I always thought she was awesome.

[Reznore57]

Anyone remember a poster called Brushyourteeth? I always thought she was awesome.

 

Yeah.

Haven't seen her for a while.

[ModernAcademic]

I've always found this the silliest possible complaint. It's like picking up a Die Hard game and being annoyed you're Bruce Willis.

I remember when Final Fantasy XIII was first announced and people were angry about having to play a female character. They were largely mocked. As they should have been. I'll never understand why the opposite complaint, not wanting to play a male character, is somehow credible.

 

It's silly to you because you are probably a guy. I'm a woman who's had to play countless male PCs before finally having the pleasure of making my own customisable female PC in Dragon Age.

 

Now that gaming companies realized protagonists don't always have to be men, they can easily adapt any story to fit for both male and female PCs.

 

I don't care how wonderful Witcher is. I want a story that respects my choice for playing as a female. Why? For two reasons.

 

1- Because at least half the gamers in the world are women nowadays. And I don't want to play as Standard_Male_Protagonist again.

 

2- Because male and female viewpoints are radically different. You can't derive any satisfaction from the Miranda romance as a hetero female, for example. Or from having to hear other male characters make sexist jokes about an NPC and see your male PC laughing at them while you're internally cringing.

 

It's simple as that.

[o Ventus]

There is absolutely nothing wrong about Geralt being the protagonist of TW games. As you say, it only makes sense. I like the books and his character there. He's equally likeable in the games. But I like blank slates for characters more, and predict that Cyberpunk will be more to my liking. I'm a cyberpunk genre junky anyway.

 

That's fair enough (I personally go more for sci-fi over fantasy myself), I just think it's a bit silly to mourn the lack of a main character who is female, when the source material that the game is based off of already has the same lacking.

[Khayness]

I met my rolemodel, Busomjack on this site. What a guy.