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[SKAR]

Bioware.............We as a community haven't always seen eye to eye but you've been there for us. You've been our friends, our allies, our betrayers, but you've always delivered great game content and now the future is here and the possibilities are endless. We have praised you, criticized you, doubted you. Now it's time for you to make us proud and keep making spectacular games and be the company who gives a damn about their fans. I believe in Andromeda and I believe you guy's can become the kings of Role-playing games. I long for more lovely memories in the coming years and even if I can't share them on this forum, perhaps with people I meet on multiplayer and maybe the youtube comments section, I will cherish them forever until the end of my days. Keep Mass Effect great and keep up the awesome work and good luck with future endeavors. Your Loyal Fan, SKAR.

[Kabooooom]

Wait...Bioware's been there for us?

[SKAR]

Wait...Bioware's been there for us?

Yes they have. But they're only human and like humans they make mistakes. But if you fall you get back up.

[Kabooooom]

Yes they have. But they're only human and like humans they make mistakes. But if you fall you get back up.

Not if your legs are broken.

[AngryFrozenWater]

BW is there to make money. They don't care about a community. Currently this community is producing red numbers on their balance sheet. That's a real problem for them. So the forums must go. It's a simple business decision to make their stockholders happy.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Wait...Bioware's been there for us?

They have been there...to stab us in the back and heart. 

[Kabooooom]

BW is there to make money. They don't care about a community. Currently this community is producing red numbers on their balance sheet. That's a real problem for them. So the forums must go. It's a simple business decision to make their stockholders happy.

How much money could it possibly cost to keep some forums open for their nerdy fanbase?

And on that note, is there ANY major game developer who doesn't keep an open forum for their fans? I'm genuinely curious and not being sarcastic for once.

[Isaidlunch]

How much money could it possibly cost to keep some forums open for their nerdy fanbase?

And on that note, is there ANY major game developer who doesn't keep an open forum for their fans? I'm genuinely curious and not being sarcastic for once.

 

Even indie developers have their own forums, Bioware are just sick of the awful reputation these forums have and are too lazy to do anything about it besides nuking it from orbit.

[AngryFrozenWater]

How much money could it possibly cost to keep some forums open for their nerdy fanbase?

And on that note, is there ANY major game developer who doesn't keep an open forum for their fans? I'm genuinely curious and not being sarcastic for once.

Servers, bandwidth and negative publicity all are part of those red numbers.

 

Other companies have better moderation policies, don't tolerate trolling, offer tech support, etc. That produces a happy community which promotes their products. See the difference?

[SKAR]

They have been there...to stab us in the back and heart.

Ever a cynic. I'll miss you too.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Ever a cynic. I'll miss you too.

There is nothing cynical about it. That is literally what they have done by shutting this forum down. 

[Cyonan]

How much money could it possibly cost to keep some forums open for their nerdy fanbase?

And on that note, is there ANY major game developer who doesn't keep an open forum for their fans? I'm genuinely curious and not being sarcastic for once.

 

Every developer I can think of has their own forums.

 

To a major company, this shouldn't be that big of an expense.

[Draining Dragon]

For money?

[Kabooooom]

Servers, bandwidth and negative publicity all are part of those red numbers.

Other companies have better moderation policies, don't tolerate trolling, and offer tech support. That produces a happy community which promotes their products. See the difference?

I just thought of a brilliant business model. This is ground breaking stuff here, really:

Don't want negative publicity??

Step one: Don't do stupid ****.

Step two: Dont ignore your fans.

Step three: ???????

Step four: PROFIT!

[SKAR]

There is nothing cynical about it. That is literally what they have done by shutting this forum down.

Oh I agree no doubt about it. They're Betraying us. But it's not like any of us work for Bio and have a say about the forums.

[AngryFrozenWater]

I just thought of a brilliant business model. This is ground breaking stuff here, really:

Don't want negative publicity??

Step one: Don't do stupid ****.

Step two: Dont ignore your fans.

Step three: ???????

Step four: PROFIT!

Creating products that don't cause negative publicity may help too. Just a thought.

[SPACE_GREASER]

Wait...Bioware's been there for us?

 

Well SURRREE!!!! Don't you remember the extend cut they released for us??? You know, the one that added pictures and unused dialogue?
 

[SKAR]

Creating products that don't require negative publicity may help too. Just a thought.

That's impossible. To make something perfect and impeccable cannot be done when it comes to games. Someone may hate something that someone else likes. Flaws will always happen because we are humans.

[Kabooooom]

Creating products that don't cause negative publicity may help too. Just a thought.

That was summarized under "step one - don't do stupid ****"

[Kabooooom]

That's impossible. To make something perfect and impeccable cannot be done when it comes to games. Someone may hate something that someone else likes. Flaws will always happen because we are humans.

That said, art isn't entirely subjective. There are certain things that are objectively bad.

If bioware does something objectively bad, they should be called out on it.

And they were.

They just didn't handle the criticism super well.

[AngryFrozenWater]

That's impossible. To make something perfect and impeccable cannot be done when it comes to games. Someone may hate something that someone else likes. Flaws will always happen because we are humans.

Well, some things should never have happened in the first place. Like waves of foes jumping from thin air in DA2 or rushing an ending of the ME trilogy.

[Drone223]

Without a effective means of giving feedback, criticism, concern etc. its going to be hard for players to have confidence in their products. By closing down their own forums Bioware is not only making themselves look bad but their also going to make even harder to sell their products. In order to sell a product one must respond to criticism and apply feedback to their products and without that criticism and feedback people are only going to be skeptical of their product.

[Cyonan]

That's impossible. To make something perfect and impeccable cannot be done when it comes to games. Someone may hate something that someone else likes. Flaws will always happen because we are humans.

 

True although when you create something as hated as the Mass Effect 3 endings, you probably misunderstood what your fanbase wanted somewhere along the way.

[Kabooooom]

Without a effective means of giving feedback, criticism, concern etc. its going to be hard for players to have confidence in their products. By closing down their own forums Bioware is not only making themselves look bad but their also going to make even harder to sell their products. In order to sell a product one must respond to criticism and apply feedback to their products and without that criticism and feedback people are only going to be skeptical of their product.

I agree with you. I mean, I know we've had our disagreements in the past during all those times when I was right, but I like you man.

[SKAR]

I agree with you. I mean, I know we've had our disagreements in the past during all those times when I was right, but I like you man.

You were right?