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[Illegitimus]

Here's what I learned. After losing the Landsmeet in my first two games Loghain couldn't wait to have my warden, Alistair and Eamon taken outside to await execution. Not  one peep from Riordan about saving the wardens since they are needed to kill the AD yet,you beat Loghain and he speaks out about Loghain becoming a warden.. That's another reason I fully believe he is another one of Loghain's lackeys.

 

In my last play through for awhile (I put DA:O on my storage shelf) a thought cross my mind..Is Riordan really a warden or is he highly knowledgeable of their ways?

 

Thought: When he is asked if he will join the attacking force he says no the AD will be alerted to their presence but, according to Warden Commander Duncan they needed more wardens to fight the AD that's why the Orlesian Wardens was requested.

 

 

 

And the problem is?  As for why Riordan doesn't speak up if you lose the Landsmeet, the reason is obvious.  If you lose the Landsmeet nobody would care what Riordan has to say.  He'd just be executed if if he informed Loghain he was free.  Instead what he'd do is go back to Orlais and warn them to expect to be next for the Archdemon to attack.  

[Akiza]

Nope, you lost to him means you're wrong, and dead. The duel is to death to determine who's right and wrong.

How about no?
You're simply wrong that an NPC is defeated in duel by Loghain doesn't mean that it is killed or that the PC is killed so the Game Over screen reflect only game mechanics. Alistair is the only one who break the rules of the Landsmeet which were explained by Alfstanna.

[Akiza]

And the problem is?

The problem is that some persons believe that their bias is the ultimate truth of everything.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Those are valid but at the same time elementary thoughts.
I thought that it was a good way to redeem him to turn him into a model for future generations(redemption is possible)Loghain had enough of his life at that point and had no desire to live so he would not have been beneficial for Ferelden like the young HoF.
The "I don't want to die" dilemma is something from whom i don't care if that was the case i would have ordered to the warden to abandon the quest at Lothering or Ostagar instead to complete suicidal quests for a whole year as a GW then change my behaviour and mindset at the last minute.

There's several ways to justify preferring to sacrifice Loghain rather than die that wouldn't have motivated the Warden to give up early on. There was nobody else who could do the suicidal quests the Warden had been doing all game, and those weren't the "literally zero chance of survival" deal you've been led to believe this is. Besides which the choice to continue the fight was a choice to try to save all of Ferelden at the probable cost of your own life, whereas the choice to die killing the Archdemon is a choice to save one man who has had enough of life anyway at the cost of your own life.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

 whereas the choice to die killing the Archdemon is a choice to save one man who has had enough of life anyway at the cost of your own life.

It makes no sense to save loghain from the Archdemon he does not possess any will to live any longer.

[Tidus]

Akiza,I have no bias and I am not fool enough to believe anybody with a ounce of brain would let that SOB Loghain live for what he has done. Only the foolish would allow him to live. You don't cuddle your enemy, you eliminate him.

[Akiza]

Akiza,I have no bias and I am not fool enough to believe anybody with a ounce of brain would let that SOB Loghain live for what he has done. Only the foolish would allow him to live. You don't cuddle your enemy, you eliminate him.

My only enemy was the old god the one you did not eliminated(while i did i killed both him and Loghain) so your logic dictate that the fool isn't me here.

[Akiza]

whereas the choice to die killing the Archdemon is a choice to save one man who has had enough of life anyway at the cost of your own life.

I was not able to find an RP to justify that.

[Mike3207]

He's looking for a noble death to atone. It's the right thing to do to give him that option. Whether that happens at the end of Origins or during Inquisition-that's your choice.

[Domakir]

He's looking for a noble death to atone. It's the right thing to do to give him that option. Whether that happens at the end of Origins or during Inquisition-that's your choice.

There was nothing noble about his death in Inquisition imo. It was rather stupid for me.

[German Soldier]

There was nothing noble about his death in Inquisition imo. It was rather stupid for me.

He was brought back for fanservice,there was no need at all to use Loghain and Alistair for that quest given the availability of Stroud.

I don't see any redemption in disappearing on a forgotten realm with a Big spider.