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[Iakus]

A major economic recession most likely.  If it's not affecting Bioware directly, it's almost certainly affecting their families and some of their friends  it's affected about everyone in Alberta in some way as far as I can see.  Stress levels are generally high.

 

Combine that with Flynn letting it slip about therapy at EA Play and that the reaction to the EA Play trailer at BSN was less than positive due to, of all things, Asari eyebrows.  So, more stress is perceived by Bioware employees and management starts to view the BSN as more of a cost and liability (as well as a festering wound) instead of seeing through all of that to focus on the benefits.  Next budget meeting, BSN becomes an expendable at a point in time when they are probably looking for various ways to cut costs - as are all the businesses are here - and they probably weren't interested in spending more to improve forum administration and moderation.  I think it's likely that it was Bioware management who made the call to pull the pin on the BSN rather than EA, although it's possible EA might make such a call for their own motives... which may include shutting down Bioware (it wouldn't be the first time).

 

Dumb move?... Yes, I think so.  Hopefully, there may be some intention to create a new forum for ME:A closer to release, since, so far, they haven't said they are shutting down accounts... we'll just have to wait to see what happens.  I really don't think it has too much to do with the actually quality of ME:A.  Hopefully, they'll still have enough gas in the tank to release a good game.

Eh, the eyebrows thing is just one detail.  The meat of the problem is Bioware really didn't tell us much about MEA.  Nothing about the story, the characters, the locations.  Heck the biggest reveal of E3 was learning the protagonist's freaking NAME!  

 

Talk about a let down.

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

It's actually all my fault guys. Since I became President of Andromeda, I made lots of promises to everyone. Flamethrowers for everyone, free credits, unlimited romances, etc. In the three days of my presidency, I failed to deliver those promises and EA devised a bill to shut down the forums. I tried to veto the bill but alas, mods were in their corporate pockets and they overridden my veto. I have failed as President. I am sorry. I am sorry we didn't get to burn everything. I am unfit to be President.   

[LinksOcarina]

Eh, the eyebrows thing is just one detail.  The meat of the problem is Bioware really didn't tell us much about MEA.  Nothing about the story, the characters, the locations.  Heck the biggest reveal of E3 was learning the protagonist's freaking NAME!  

 

Talk about a let down.

 

Eh...in truth that trailer showed off a lot more than people realize, as did the chats the team had in the coming days after E3 with some new details here and there.

 

It is enough to keep on speculating at least. I think people expected the trailer to be a gameplay demo...i'm kind of glad it wasn't in the end because in the coming months we may complain about features cut.

[UpUpAway]

Eh, the eyebrows thing is just one detail.  The meat of the problem is Bioware really didn't tell us much about MEA.  Nothing about the story, the characters, the locations.  Heck the biggest reveal of E3 was learning the protagonist's freaking NAME!  

 

Talk about a let down.

 

I agree that it was a big let down for more reasons than the eyebrows... the most vocal stink though seemed to be about the eyebrows.  I think some forum members made the, perhaps, unwise choice to raise a "huge stink" over a small issue rather than, perhaps, the wiser choice of raising a more reasonable stink over the larger issues... or perhaps just sitting back a bit a waiting to see what else might have been released in the way of info in the upcoming months (still plenty of time ahead of the release date).  Going over the top with complaints isn't always, IMO, a good thing... particularly, when - in the background - you have a situation where the management of companies are just itching to find ways to cut costs... even when cutting those costs is not likely to be the "best" decision for the growth of the company in the long run (after the economy recovers).  I've seen it happen in businesses of all types during recessions.  I don't see why the videogame industry would be immune to such things.

 

As it stands, we've all lost in this bargain... the community is being separated and has been "crushed" emotionally, Bioware has employees who are also, no doubt, saddened by these events, and the company has lost even more of its credibility with its fans.

[Reever]

Nono, it's "ME3 was waaaaaay better/worse than this!"

Oh yeah, that too.

[Mdizzletr0n]

Maybe if they ever manage to put out a finished game.

Well to be fair... No one puts out finished games anymore. What with all these day one updates and DLC that's really just cut content. Obsidian ia like everyone else now.

Speaking of which, Pillars of Eternity wasn't finished? I haven't had a chance to play it. New Vegas? Didn't get to play that either.

[GaroTD]

"Stand fast. Stand strong. Stand together"

 

It's just sad. When ME:A will come out, it will be so wierd to not have this place to talk about it. Well I just hope it's not because they prefer listening to justice warriors over fans. 

[LinksOcarina]

"Stand fast. Stand strong. Stand together"

 

It's just sad. When ME:A will come out, it will be so wierd to not have this place to talk about it. Well I just hope it's not because they prefer listening to justice warriors over fans. 

 

people are finding alternatives for now...make the best out of the situation you know and look forward to the future. 

[Arcian]

Nono, it's "ME3 was waaaaaay better/worse than this!"

"Mass Effect Andromeda makes the ME3 endings look good."

 

That's the title I'm looking forward to the most, because it's going to come true.

[goishen]

"Mass Effect Andromeda makes the ME3 endings look good."

 

That's the title I'm looking forward to the most, because it's going to come true.

 

 

True dat.

[shodiswe]

Sad news. Doesn't sound reasuring.

[GaroTD]

people are finding alternatives for now...make the best out of the situation you know and look forward to the future. 

Well I'm on it.  Now waiting where majority of the people will go.

[Arcian]

Eh, the eyebrows thing is just one detail.  The meat of the problem is Bioware really didn't tell us much about MEA.  Nothing about the story, the characters, the locations.  Heck the biggest reveal of E3 was learning the protagonist's freaking NAME!  

 

Talk about a let down.

"Let's hold back on the details so they become disappointed AFTER they've bought the game."

[Gannayev of Dreams]

I'd like to invoke Occam's Razor here. They're not closing these boards because of any backlash to fan reaction to things (like ME3 ending), or out of any fear about their product's success, or any other weird conspiracy theories. They're doing it for the plain and simple reason that was stated in their closure thread.

 

BioWare employees just don't come here anymore.

 

They don't employ any full time forum Moderators, so it falls on the Devs who spend free time here. And guess what? They just don't feel like doing it anymore. If they don't spend time here, there is no moderation. No moderation means that these threads eventually descend into unregulated madness, and whatever your opinion about their state up till now, please know if can get so... SO much worse.

 

Sure, they could do like some other communities do and promote some of the best forum members to be volunteer moderation staff, but no matter what that's still going to require some Dev oversight. You'll need people to "moderate" the moderators, so to speak, make sure they don't abuse their power, and of course handle any complaints that regular users may have about the moderation. Bottom line is... still requires them to come here. Which they don't want to do.

[DFMelancholine]

Referring to the OP.I don't think that's the case.
The game could universally be a solid 9/10 or it could be universally bad, or underwhelming or just controversial. Meaning it will have people who either love it or totally hate it.
The move of closing down the forums mostly points to a general feeling of insecurity and is more like a preemptive measure to scatter the more critical part of the community.
Let`s not lie, taking an established franchise and applying huge changes to it, on itself will and is bound to generate criticism. I repeat, the game could be and I have hopes that it will be good but it is still something very new, almost a soft reboot that will most likely mean retcons and lore breaking explanations as to how intergalactic travel is even a thing.
Easy to swallow for new comers to the ME universe but hard for people who are ME veterans.The latter group is the core audience of this forum and most likely to criticize the game.
It all comes down to them wanting to prevent a similar ME3 situation by just " burning" the whole place down :/

It is a pity because I was looking forward to all the lore, character and theory discussions:(

[DFMelancholine]

 BioWare employees just don't come here anymore.

I would have agreed to this but it just seems so odd for a a big and notable game company like BW to just nuke a forum because they were too lazy to log in once in a while.So it is like, they have time to be checking FB and Twitter almost all day especially because most people use smartphones nowadays, but no theyjust cannot even take fifteen minutes a day to log in the OFFICIAL forum of the company they work for.Ok, does it stress them out? BW should have tried to keep this place more civil, instead they just let it get worse and then they jumped ship.

[GoldenGail3]

So they choice to get rid of the one place where fans could actually dicuss there games just because they don't come here anymore? That's stupid.

[The Dank Warden]

I'm 60% sure that the fault is on those who thought this was Devianart or 4chan or some deep web page and posted their shitty pics/draws about their fanfic-porn LIs

 

those sick arseholes...

[ZipZap2000]

I can only imagine what this place will be like on its last day, when no one needs to care about being banned.

Rule 34 everywhere.

[Paul E Dangerously]

"Let's hold back on the details so they become disappointed AFTER they've bought the game."

 

That was pretty much their entire approach to the 360/PS3 version of DAI.

[Draining Dragon]

On August 26, we're going to honor the memory of BACON4BREAKFAST.

[Seraphim24]

It's actually all my fault guys. Since I became President of Andromeda, I made lots of promises to everyone. Flamethrowers for everyone, free credits, unlimited romances, etc. In the three days of my presidency, I failed to deliver those promises and EA devised a bill to shut down the forums. I tried to veto the bill but alas, mods were in their corporate pockets and they overridden my veto. I have failed as President. I am sorry. I am sorry we didn't get to burn everything. I am unfit to be President.   

 

But you were the chosen one!

[PCThug]

Eh, the eyebrows thing is just one detail.  The meat of the problem is Bioware really didn't tell us much about MEA.  Nothing about the story, the characters, the locations.  Heck the biggest reveal of E3 was learning the protagonist's freaking NAME!  

 

Talk about a let down.

I've said it before but devoting multiple moments in a big E3 press conference trailer to footage of developers working intently at resizing space rocks didn't exactly inspire confidence that the game was on track to release in 7-9months. 

[themikefest]

Eh, the eyebrows thing is just one detail.

With the asari? I never paid attention. Who knows? It might change once the game is released. Its something I'm not worried about.
 

The meat of the problem is Bioware really didn't tell us much about MEA.  Nothing about the story, the characters, the locations.  Heck the biggest reveal of E3 was learning the protagonist's freaking NAME!

They revealed a name. Big deal. Would I like to of had more revealed? Sure. I just don't let it bother me since I have no control over it.
 

Talk about a let down.

It wasn't a let down. Look at the number of threads created after the trailer was shown. When they want to release more information, they will. Again. I'm not worried.

Right now my biggest worry is collecting all the Gwent cards in Witcher 3

[pdusen]

"Let's hold back on the details so they become disappointed AFTER they've bought the game."

 

It's truly mind-boggling that Bioware employees wouldn't want to give you a soapbox to stand on.