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[Inverness Moon]

Legion is the character I most anticipated meeting in ME2 and is certainly one of the most interesting--if not the most interesting--squad members for me. You can find out alot of things like how geth observe others, the way they function, and their history with the quarians by talking to Legion. Bringing Legion to the quarian flotilla for Tali's loyalty mission and observing the different opinions the quarians have towards the geth sets the stage for alot of interesting events in ME3.

I'm wondering if we're going to have to wait until ME3 to learn more about the geth and their interactions with the quarians or if a DLC for ME2 might provide more content, specifically for Legion.

Additionally I'm hoping that Legion stays on as a squad member for ME3.

[Foop DK]

I like Legion. ALOT. He's pretty awesome.



I think of him as a diplomat of the real Geth, and a valuable ally.



I hope we get some more Geth/Legion missions in DLC.



And i damn hope we'll be able to land on earth in the next ME, damnit Bioware, i wanna see future earth! And Asari, Turian and Salarian homeworlds + their females (Asari excluded, mono gender eh). And while we're at it, Tali's face, else im just gonna fanart it, have a pretty good picture in my head

[Foop DK]

Elithranduil wrote...

It was pretty heart-wrenching hearing that data recording of a Geth asking if it had a soul to the Quarians and getting shutdown.

Indeed, and after listening to Legion and asking about his armor, it seems to me that the real Geth are far from evil, and that the Quarians we're pretty wrong in what they did. It also seems the Quarians wouldn't even have to fight for their homeworld, as Legion said they were merely taking care of it, not actually using it. Peace between Geth and Quarians, i say!

[Inverness Moon]

Additionally I want to see more interaction between Legion and Tali, perhaps a mission designed specifically for the two of them? Methinks that the geth and quarian situation would necessitate more dialogue between the two. The confrontation after Legion's loyalty mission wasn't enough drama imho.

Foop DK wrote...

Elithranduil wrote...

It
was pretty heart-wrenching hearing that data recording of a Geth asking
if it had a soul to the Quarians and getting shutdown.

Indeed,
and after listening to Legion and asking about his armor, it seems to
me that the real Geth are far from evil, and that the Quarians we're
pretty wrong in what they did. It also seems the Quarians wouldn't even
have to fight for their homeworld, as Legion said they were merely
taking care of it, not actually using it. Peace between Geth and
Quarians, i say!

Merely taking care of it? When did he say that? I don't recall.

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 28 janvier 2010 - 02:29 .

[ere5234]

Hopefully we get (maybe in a DLC and not in ME3) the ability to get the Quarians back to the homeworld and co-exist with the non-heretic geth. After talking to Legion and Tali (and indeed, the different political opinions on the flotilla) it seems like this should be possible to do. And who wouldn't want a fleet of 50k ships all with guns to help against the reapers? ;P

By the way @ Above me, if you talk to Legion as often as possible (You can continue talking to him after the suicide mission) you can get a lot more info about the Geth than you would guess. In the part where he replays the audio log you have to continue inquiring and he tells that the geth are taking care of the quarian homeworld and repair it from damage caused by the Morning War. You also get to hear that the Geth (at least that platform) would consider co-existence, if the Quarians would consider it.

Modifié par ere5234, 28 janvier 2010 - 02:32 .

[Mikenator700]

Legion definetly looks like a really cool character, and I haven't even gotten that far to get him yet. I'm waiting til I do everything else before I do the Reaper mission to get him.



He kinda reminds me of like Data from Star Trek.

[Martukis]

Out of curiosity, did you manage to take Legion through Tali's loyalty mission, do his Loyalty mission, and manage to save everyone? I'm worried I might be sacrificing lives attempting this...

[jedierick]

Martukis wrote...

Out of curiosity, did you manage to take Legion through Tali's loyalty mission, do his Loyalty mission, and manage to save everyone? I'm worried I might be sacrificing lives attempting this...

I am curious about this as well, I thought that if you did not do Legions loyalty mission, then go right through the relay to save your crew they died. I dont want this, but I want to bring legion with me to the flotilla.

[Foop DK]

Inverness Moon wrote...

Additionally I want to see more interaction between Legion and Tali, perhaps a mission designed specifically for the two of them? Methinks that the geth and quarian situation would necessitate more dialogue between the two. The confrontation after Legion's loyalty mission wasn't enough drama imho.

Foop DK wrote...

Elithranduil wrote...

It
was pretty heart-wrenching hearing that data recording of a Geth asking
if it had a soul to the Quarians and getting shutdown.

Indeed,
and after listening to Legion and asking about his armor, it seems to
me that the real Geth are far from evil, and that the Quarians we're
pretty wrong in what they did. It also seems the Quarians wouldn't even
have to fight for their homeworld, as Legion said they were merely
taking care of it, not actually using it. Peace between Geth and
Quarians, i say!

Merely taking care of it? When did he say that? I don't recall.

He mentions something about the Geth living in spacestations, not on the planets, and that they see themselves merely as caretakers of the Quarian homeworld and other planets. Atleast thats what i remember.

[Mikenator700]

jedierick wrote...

Martukis wrote...

Out of curiosity, did you manage to take Legion through Tali's loyalty mission, do his Loyalty mission, and manage to save everyone? I'm worried I might be sacrificing lives attempting this...

I am curious about this as well, I thought that if you did not do Legions loyalty mission, then go right through the relay to save your crew they died. I dont want this, but I want to bring legion with me to the flotilla.

If anything this is what I recommend.

Make one save where you take Legion to the Flotilla. You might lose Cerberus (unimportant Normandy people) crew members, but you'll have a back-up save where you just do Legion's mission then go straight to the Relay.

[Martukis]

Mikenator700 wrote...

jedierick wrote...

Martukis wrote...

Out of curiosity, did you manage to take Legion through Tali's loyalty mission, do his Loyalty mission, and manage to save everyone? I'm worried I might be sacrificing lives attempting this...

I am curious about this as well, I thought that if you did not do Legions loyalty mission, then go right through the relay to save your crew they died. I dont want this, but I want to bring legion with me to the flotilla.

If anything this is what I recommend.

Make one save where you take Legion to the Flotilla. You might lose Cerberus (unimportant Normandy people) crew members, but you'll have a back-up save where you just do Legion's mission then go straight to the Relay.

 I suppose I'll do that.

[packardbell]

Strange.. I remember doing Legion's loyalty mission straight after the derelict reaper mission and only Lilth got melted.

Modifié par packardbell, 28 janvier 2010 - 02:57 .

[Inverness Moon]

packardbell wrote...

Strange.. I remember doing Legion's loyalty mission straight after the derelict reaper mission and only Lilth got melted.

Well there should be too much of a penalty for logically doing the loyalty mission for your last squad member.

[Levowitz]

Wait, Legion doesn't die? Why did my Legion die? I was so furious! I also lost the doctor and Jack. I loved the doctor too, but didn't care much for Jack.

[Martukis]

Okay, so I did as planned, and everyone got out alive except for Lilth. Which is fine, really.

[Arcadionn]

I did not like the fact that if you go for legion first... you pretty much lose everyone in the rescue mission (or I assume you do) because you still have to go for tali and samara.... I wanted to get to legion first but 1) I did not know where to get him 2) shortly after I got him I had to go save my crew....

[Inverness Moon]

Arcadionn wrote...

I did not like the fact that if you go for legion first... you pretty much lose everyone in the rescue mission (or I assume you do) because you still have to go for tali and samara.... I wanted to get to legion first but 1) I did not know where to get him 2) shortly after I got him I had to go save my crew....

I was renegade all the way through, wasn't worried about the crew, and focused on building up loyalty and everything. The only crew I saved was Chakwas and some other nobodies, but didn't give them an escort and Chakwas died on the way back. Oh well, I'm just glad I had no one left behind.

I'll be disappointed if he isn't a squad member with an important role in ME3. Considering how so many can die in ME2 I'm wondering how BioWare is going to deal with all the permutations in ME3.

[Crackseed]

My plan in my new playthrough is to get Legion last, but do all the loyalty missions I can with him present, including Tali's. I know I'll have a ghost ship for awhile, but still - I really want to get some mission time with Legion.

Far as I know so long as you do all the loyalty missions before the final mission and pick the right specialists/team leads, you will do just fine.

[Arcadionn]

Inverness Moon wrote...

Arcadionn wrote...

I did not like the fact that if you go for legion first... you pretty much lose everyone in the rescue mission (or I assume you do) because you still have to go for tali and samara.... I wanted to get to legion first but 1) I did not know where to get him 2) shortly after I got him I had to go save my crew....

I was renegade all the way through, wasn't worried about the crew, and focused on building up loyalty and everything. The only crew I saved was Chakwas and some other nobodies, but didn't give them an escort and Chakwas died on the way back. Oh well, I'm just glad I had no one left behind.

I'll be disappointed if he isn't a squad member with an important role in ME3. Considering how so many can die in ME2 I'm wondering how BioWare is going to deal with all the permutations in ME3.

Thats the problem... I am a paragon player (with some renegade from time to time). But legion is my second favorite crew option... too bad though, you get him in the last 25% of the game. Even later if you want to save all the crew.

[Crackseed]

Maybe I'm missing something - how does getting Legion earlier screw over the crew when you go to save them?

[Inverness Moon]

crackseed wrote...

Maybe I'm missing something - how does getting Legion earlier screw over the crew when you go to save them?

The time the normandy is attacked depends on when you get the reaper IFF apparently. So if you get Legion early you will still have more recruitments and/or loyalty missions to do which means it takes you longer to go save the crew.

[Crackseed]

That I understand, but I wasn't aware that if you spent too much time doing side missions after you get attacked that you save less of the crew when you do go. Has this been confirmed? I was not aware of an actual timer on you going to the final mission vs choosing to wrap up stuff before going.

Does that actually happen?

[Pathogen69]

Merely taking care of it? When did he say that? I don't recall.

ya, he says that later on in the dialogue.  he states that the geth understand why the quarians did what they did, and they dont actually live on the quarian home world.  they reside in spacestations above, mining the asteroids for resources and that they are simply maintaining and doing repair work/upkeep on the planet from the war between the geth and quarians.

i have this sneaking suspicion that in me3 the quarians and geth will set aside their differences and work together to take out the reapers, and that the migrant fleet will at long last be able to return to their home world.  again, just speculation, but, it is very possible.

[Inverness Moon]

Also, something I noticed from my own game then watching others on youtube, at the ending scene if you save everyone it seems that Legion, Jack, Grunt, and Garrus are the squad members that are shown as you walk by them. I'm thinking that they're the ones that will hang around for ME3 (as squad members) if you save them and/or everyone.

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 29 janvier 2010 - 08:54 .