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i'd like to say that uBSN will be our home long after BSN is gone and our community will grow, becoming united in many ways. we will NEVER give up, never surrender. we are united, we will FIGHT until the Evils of EA/BioWare are driven away. BioWare as its own company once again might be possible someday.. but not now, not today.

for that we ARE N7.. forever.
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"Lol you wild, wyd tho?"

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I'm already there........when can I move my harem in?

 

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Bet everyone who went to that site will be regretful soon enough

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Bet everyone who went to that site will be regretful soon enough

Why?



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Why?

Cassandra is a little controversial around these parts. I'd advise anybody who has concerns to express then openly but have an open mind and give uBSN a chance because we have assembled a promissing team of mods and this project is bigger than any one person.


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I think I'll just stick to real dragon age fans


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It looks good.  I'm putting my eggs into many different baskets tbh.  I'm trying uBSN as well as fextralife as it has established forums already, and realdragonagefans too as they're really friendly.

 

Maybe it's better if there are a few, then they can all take on their own personalities and they might be a little less toxic.  Maybe.  Perhaps.  :lol:

 

For those of you who are working behind the scenes with all the technical doo-dahs and giving up your time for this, THANK YOU.  So much.  Really, I mean it.  I have no clue about any of that stuff personally, thank god for talented tech ppl.

 

BioWare shoved us off a cliff, but hey, we're falling down a far way only to spot some folks with a big blanket ready to catch us.  It might not be so bad. <3


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It looks good.  I'm putting my eggs into many different baskets tbh.  I'm trying uBSN as well as fextralife as it has established forums already, and realdragonagefans too as they're really friendly.

 

Maybe it's better if there are a few, then they can all take on their own personalities and they might be a little less toxic.  Maybe.  Perhaps.   :lol:

 

For those of you who are working behind the scenes with all the technical doo-dahs and giving up your time for this, THANK YOU.  So much.  Really, I mean it.  I have no clue about any of that stuff personally, thank god for talented tech ppl.

 

BioWare shoved us off a cliff, but hey, we're falling down a far way only to spot some folks with a big blanket ready to catch us.  It might not be so bad. <3

 

Ha. Diffuse the toxicity. I like it.



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Ha. Diffuse the toxicity. I like it.

 

Given your avatar I just read that in Wrex's voice.  Considerably more epic :D


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Cassandra is a little controversial around these parts. I'd advise anybody who has concerns to express then openly but have an open mind and give uBSN a chance because we have assembled a promissing team of mods and this project is bigger than any one person.

I'm really hesitant to write this post as I don't have a personal vendetta against Cassandra Saturn. After reading her blog, I'm sympathetic and support many of her life struggles. I've spoken about my concerns publicly twice on these forums and once in PM. When I wrote those concerns, I had not seen her blog or read about any of her history with other forums. My concerns don't originate from any of that history but from what I personally witnessed since the forum closure announcement.

 

What struck me as odd was seeing the poster RealKorra follow Cassandra Saturn around praising her. The posting style was identical and the praise was....oddly personal. I suspected a sock and several other long-term posters made the accusation that RealKorra was an alt for Cassandra. After reading her blog, it's all but confirmed. She states in her blog:

 

"Cassandra prefers to be called Korra"

http://cassandrasatu...-cassandra.html

 

That statement coupled with the similarity in posting style (lower case letters, etc) and the odd adulation of Cassandra Saturn all but confirm in my mind that this is Cassandra's alt account used to promote Cassandra. So, here are some of the odd posts made by RealKorra praising Cassandra Saturn that first caught my attention:

 

"yeah, she's very busy and multi-tasking everything. she'll get the boards up soon she's really great person. made over 90 forums (including her own forums), 30 forum theme samples, doing lot of things for transgender community, communities. all while in college." 

https://forum.biowar.../#entry20414760

 

"yeah, but Cassandra is the best in the world. she knows her stuff. she has done lot for Transgender Community this year
Proboards forum can host over 900 million posts. the policy changes very rarely. "

https://forum.biowar.../#entry20414721

 

"that's Cassandra's thing here. she is actually doing that with every forum she makes. did you know that she has a game studio called Crossphase Studios, which will go to these "old days" era of making video games, interacting with the community, players etc etc on the forums someday. she hopes to make it happen after she graduates from her college. she has very big plans for future and great good things for us as well. right now, that company doesn't exist.. yet."

https://forum.biowar...2#entry20413034

 

So, why does it matter that Cassandra Saturn has a sock account that promotes herself? Well, for one, it's manipulative. She's using her alt to give the appearance of false support from 'fans' that she doesn't have. It also calls into question the stability of this person. None of this would even matter if she wasn't setting herself up as the lifeboat for BSN refugees. I think it's great that she's kind enough to provide an alternative and the site looks beautiful. But, I question the long-term viability of the site when the creator is not above manipulating people with socks and appears unstable. From my perspective, the entire point of setting up a new BSN is to keep the community together as much as possible. 

 

What happens if drama sinks that ship and the community further fractures?

 

Who else is in charge of uBSN?

 

How much control do the other people in charge actually have over the site? 

 

There are several other sites being built. Before we reach a tipping point of 'joiners' to uBSN that makes it all but inevitable that most will follow, I'd like to see these other sites given a chance. See these threads for alternatives to uBSN:

 

https://forum.biowar...boration/page-1

 

https://forum.biowar...ommunityforums/


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I'm really hesitant to write this post as I don't have a personal vendetta against Cassandra Saturn. After reading her blog, I'm sympathetic and support many of her life struggles. I've spoken about my concerns publicly twice on these forums and once in PM. When I wrote those concerns, I had not seen her blog or read about any of her history with other forums. My concerns don't originate from any of that history but from what I personally witnessed since the forum closure announcement.

What struck me as odd was seeing the poster RealKorra follow Cassandra Saturn around praising her. The posting style was identical and the praise was....oddly personal. I suspected a sock and several other long term posters made the accusation that RealKorra was an alt for Cassandra. After reading her blog, it's all but confirmed. She states in her blog:

"Cassandra prefers to be called Korra"
http://cassandrasatu...-cassandra.html

That statement coupled with the similarity in posting style (lower case letters, etc) and the odd adulation of Cassandra Saturn all but confirm in my mind that this is Cassandra's alt account used to promote Cassandra. So, here are some of the odd posts made by RealKorra praising Cassandra Saturn that first caught my attention:

"yeah, she's very busy and multi-tasking everything. she'll get the boards up soon she's really great person. made over 90 forums (including her own forums), 30 forum theme samples, doing lot of things for transgender community, communities. all while in college."
https://forum.biowar.../#entry20414760

"yeah, but Cassandra is the best in the world. she knows her stuff. she has done lot for Transgender Community this year
Proboards forum can host over 900 million posts. the policy changes very rarely. "
https://forum.biowar.../#entry20414721

"that's Cassandra's thing here. she is actually doing that with every forum she makes. did you know that she has a game studio called Crossphase Studios, which will go to these "old days" era of making video games, interacting with the community, players etc etc on the forums someday. she hopes to make it happen after she graduates from her college. she has very big plans for future and great good things for us as well. right now, that company doesn't exist.. yet."
https://forum.biowar...2#entry20413034

So, why does it matter that Cassandra Saturn has a sock account that promotes herself? Well, for one it's manipulative. She's using her alt to give the appearance of false support from 'fans' that she doesn't have. It also calls into question the stability of this person. None of this would even matter if she wasn't setting herself up as the life-boat for BSN refugees. I think it's great that she's kind enough to provide an alternative and the site looks beautiful. But, I question the long-term viability of the site when the creator is not above manipulating people with socks and appears unstable. From my perspective, the entire point of setting up a new BSN is to keep the community together as much as possible.

What happens if drama sinks that ship and the community further fractures?

Who else is in charge of uBSN?

How much control do the other people in charge actually have over the site?

There are several other sites being built. Before we reach a tipping point of 'joiners' to uBSN that makes it all but inevitable that most will follow, I'd like to see these other sties given a chance. See these threads for alternatives to uBSN:

https://forum.biowar...boration/page-1

https://forum.biowar...ommunityforums/


Agree with this, waiting to see what those with a less questionable reputation can do. If we're going to try and get everyone to go to one place, I'd rather have something we know will last.
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We all have reputations and baggage we can't change.

 

Right now, uBSN is up and it works.

 

From what I can see Cassandra is an excellent admin. After 36 hours, the site is structurally sound and a wide range of moderators who 'get it' are being appointed. Content is going on and discussions are active.

 

I don't see any agendas at play, so unless that changes, I'm behind it.

 

Of course it makes sense that other projects like fextralife and archive scrapers continue to be supported because we don't know what will happen.

If one of those or other projects turns out to be better in the long term then we should all support it, but it is also possible that big projects never get off the ground.

 

So let's be practical about it. 

If anyone has doubts, join 2 or 3 forums for now and see what you like.

The proof is in the pudding.

 

Either way, the lights are getting switched off here in 25 days...


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Can I earn some peeps there?

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Controversial, why? Because she's chosen to live the life she truly wants to live as opposed to being a closeted 9-5 robot with no free will? I say more power to her.

 

Most people around here WISH they had the guts to put their own lives in the public eye like that and say "this is all me".

 

Having said all that, I prefer to make up my own mind by getting to know whoever myself, instead of paying attention to the slanted opinions of internet nobodies.


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Controversial, why? Because she's chosen to live the life she truly wants to live as opposed to being a closeted 9-5 robot with no free will? I say more power to her.

 

Most people around here WISH they had the guts to put their own lives in the public eye like that and say "this is all me".

 

Having said all that, I prefer to make up my own mind by getting to know whoever myself, instead of paying attention to the slanted opinions of internet nobodies.

Are you a mod on uBSN?



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Are you a mod on uBSN?

 

No, I'm Korra......



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No, I'm Korra......

huh, Thought I saw you said you were a mod somewhere.



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huh, Thought I saw you said you were a mod somewhere.

 

And you'd be implying I'm partial to Cassandra because she made me a mod. Nah-ah. My loyalty is earned, not freely given out. I'm simply not a sheep who follows other people blindly and hangs on their every word. I make up my own mind about people and situations.


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And you'd be implying I'm partial to Cassandra because she made me a mod. Nah-ah. My loyalty is earned, not freely given out. I'm simply not a sheep who follows other people blindly and hangs on their every word. I make up my own mind about people and situations.

No, that's not it at all. 

 

I've just seen claims made about the quality of the mod team. Just trying to figure out who is on the team and reconcile that with what I know about them from their posting history.



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No, that's not it at all. 

 

I've just seen claims made about the quality of the mod team. Just trying to figure out who is on the team and reconcile that with what I know about them from their posting history.

Then join and see for yourself.If you don't like it,that's okay too.


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Posting history doesn't quite indicate what kind of mod one would be. This place doesn't exactly promote common sense and responsible behavior. We all go a lil mad sometimes, like me and my gifs. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be a good mod.


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I just visited uBSN and I must say it looks really well organized. They've got all the sections from ME 1,2, 3, A; DAO,DA2, DAI. They even have the Legend and Legacy areas. An Off Topic.

 

Names/Tags I recognize.

 

Alright, I'll give it a shot.



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Cassandra sounds certifiably insane.

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Then join and see for yourself.If you don't like it,that's okay too.

Thanks for the polite invite.

 

Could you let us know who the mods are over there?