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[Jaulen]

Okay, I was just wondering, do the writiers have something against mothers?

I haven't played all the orgins yet, but....

Alitair's mom is dead (and as far as he knows a star-struck maid)
Zevran's mom is dead and was a prostitute
Morrigan's mom is a body snatching abomination
Wynne seems to have been a wandering orphan, no mother there (was she abandoned when it was determined she had magic abilities?)

The City Elf's mom was killed by city guards, and nothing is ever really mentioned about her
Mages ...don't know here, but they all seem to have no family any more
Don't recall the dawrf having a mother mentioned at all.
Dalish...can't say anything here since I haven't played/seen the Dalish origin....
Human noble.....they are the only ones with a Mother (or heck, an intact family), WTF?!?!?!? And from all the other mothers in the storyline I know about, the only living/cool/nice/non-crazy one!


Thanks! Just a random thought from this morning......love to know what others have noticed....

[DJ0000]

Also, the kid from Lothering, dead mother and Kaitlyn and whatever her brothers name is, dead mother, Leliana, dead mother. To be fair though, they also have dead fathers.

[Jaulen]

It's like Ferelden is a country of either orphans or motherless people!

No WONDER everyone is so messed up.

[_Aine_]

Truth be told, all the good mothers would have been so irked that their precious children may be in peril, that they would rise up in a maternal rage and slay the arch-demon themselves wearing nothing but chainmail, pretty shoes and hair-bows,armed with nothing but kitchen cleavers and meat tenderizers thus ending the Blight and this game forever. Even as a mother, I simply cannot accept that fate. lol

[Nikatjef]

Greetings,



If you play the Human Noble and interact with Iona (sp?) , you find out she has a daughter in the Alienage, and by the time you get to that point you realize the daughter is now an orphan as well.



If you play Dalish, you learn that your parents died a long time ago. Your mother was a hunter and your father was a crafter.

[Darkemorrow]

Orphan Ollie, while bereft of both parents, points out that his mother is especially dead.

[Viktor McCury]

Jaulen wrote...

Okay, I was just wondering, do the writiers have something against mothers?

I haven't played all the orgins yet, but....

Alitair's mom is dead (and as far as he knows a star-struck maid)
Zevran's mom is dead and was a prostitute
Morrigan's mom is a body snatching abomination
Wynne seems to have been a wandering orphan, no mother there (was she abandoned when it was determined she had magic abilities?)

The City Elf's mom was killed by city guards, and nothing is ever really mentioned about her

The City Elf's mother was a Gray Warden and at least she had enough time to teach you to kick some ass.

But even If we think in middle age life conditions in our world the numbers of dead mothers are extremelly high.

Modifié par Viktor McCury, 28 janvier 2010 - 09:34 .

[Jaulen]

No, the CE's mother wasn't a GW, just a rogue/warrior. Duncan mentions that he had wanted to recruit her, but by the time he got around to her she had the kid and Cyrion. So he left her alone.



I;m wondering why fathers seem to be around more often than the mothers.....especially with a number of the fathers being fighters, you;d think they would have a higher death rate

[Sialater]

And then Morrigan becomes a mother. (Sometimes.)

[Eudaemonium]

Jaulen wrote...

I'm wondering why fathers seem to be around more often than the mothers.....especially with a number of the fathers being fighters, you;d think they would have a higher death rate

Absent/dead mothers is a fairly common theme in fairy tales (see, for example, Cinderella, Snow White). Not that I think this is necessarily the reason that all mothers in DA:O are either dead or nut-jobs.

Does Alister's mother actually even get a *name*?

[ArathWoeeye]

Well, normal people with normal families apparently tend to live normal lives. Adventurer's life isn't that of a regular person, so family irregularities are nothing to be surprised of.

[MishenNikara]

Sialater wrote...

And then Morrigan becomes a mother. (Sometimes.)

Yeahhhh....I'm sure that kid will have as interesting of a backstory about his/her mom if not more so >.>

[TheRealIncarnal]

I suppose that there's just a very high maternal mortality rate in Ferelden. That's actually very truthful of what it was like until fairly recently.

[Joseph Silver]

Eudaemonium wrote...

Jaulen wrote...

I'm wondering why fathers seem to be around more often than the mothers.....especially with a number of the fathers being fighters, you;d think they would have a higher death rate

Absent/dead mothers is a fairly common theme in fairy tales (see, for example, Cinderella, Snow White). Not that I think this is necessarily the reason that all mothers in DA:O are either dead or nut-jobs.

Does Alister's mother actually even get a *name*?

Fiona.

[Treason1]

Nikatjef wrote...
If you play Dalish, you learn that your parents died a long time ago. Your mother was a hunter and your father was a crafter.

The Dalish Warden's father was actually the previous Keeper for their clan.

[Jannamarie]

In the dwarf commoner story, your mother is still alive, but an alcoholic. Which some might argue is even worse than a dead mother.

[Jannamarie]

If you talk to Jowan (the blood mage in the mage orgin), his mother hated him once he started showing signs of magical ability, would not call him by his name, and his father finally left him at the Chantry when he was five. This mother, I would have liked to have killed off myself.

[SusanStoHelit]

Yep, mothers are all dead or severely screwed up. And in the human noble origin you have a live, normal mother - who is then massacred.

Obviously, Bioware hates mothers. ;-)

And adventuring is irrelevant. The mothers weren't all adventurers, even if their children are.

Edit: Two alive mothers: the one in the dwarven commoner origin. And Goldanna. Prize-winning mums both.

Modifié par SusanStoHelit, 29 janvier 2010 - 02:18 .

[melkathi]

MishenNikara wrote...

Sialater wrote...

And then Morrigan becomes a mother. (Sometimes.)

Yeahhhh....I'm sure that kid will have as interesting of a backstory about his/her mom if not more so >.>

Now I realy hope Dragon Age 3 will have a wierd sociopath companion who, aftr doing a long personal quest, turns out to be Morrigan's son.

[DJ0000]

Also, Conner's mother can be alive depending on your choice. I love to sacrifice her, I don't know who is worse, her, Goldanna or Anora.

[Eudaemonium]

Joseph Silver wrote...

Eudaemonium wrote...

Does Alister's mother actually even get a *name*?

Fiona.

I meant the one he thinks is his mother - Goldanna's mother. We don't know either way if Fiona is his mother. It just strikes me as strange that amidst all the 'hey, Goldanna, I'm your brother' he never ever seems to say the name of the woman he thinks is his mother.

[Alyka]

Yeah it is a common theme in fairy tales to lose one or both parents or grow up an orphan etc.Not only does it support how the characters lives are shaped (just like in real life how it shapes our lives),it serves as a reminder of how strong we are and that we can overcome hardships.Also, it's not uncommon for women to have complications and die during child birth especially in a world where magic is prevalent , theres warring, the darkspawn threat and medicine isn't as advanced compared to real life.So death toll is higher for both sexes. I also thought about the theme of how some of the characters lost their mothers and the conclusion I came to is maybe the writers are in some way trying to reinforce that the Maker is real and that Andraste is like a mother figure.Mothers are seen as care givers,nurturers and are more compassionate.So to lose your mother makes you focus more on fighting and surviving. Mothers give birth.This makes the mother/child bond more stronger than the father/child bond.Or, if there is a strain in the relationship, the child loathes the mother ( like Jowan. and who can blame him?).Maybe the focal point is love/hate relationship and how that connects to the Maker and Andraste? You can either go against it or go with it. I don't know, maybe I'm looking too far into it lol. But at least its something to think about.

Modifié par Alyka, 29 janvier 2010 - 09:33 .

[Daneres]

You forgot to mention that Leliana's mother is also dead. And your mother in the Dalish Elf origin - it's still up in the air. You're told that once your father died your mother just couldn't go on without him. She returned to her people, gave birth you, then abandoned you and walked off into the forest one day and was never seen again. Whether she is actually dead has never been confirmed. Though, which is worse? A dead mother or a mother who wouldn't raise you because she loved your father more and couldn't live without him?

[Starlight]

And, don't forget about the Broodmother. ;-)

[PavelNovotny]

Eudaemonium wrote...



Does Alister's mother actually even get a *name*?

SPOILER:  Alistair's mother isn't dead - and she's not the maid - she is a fairly important elven gray warden. Read all about her in the second Dragon Age book.