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[Fogg]

After the second game, I really thought Mass Effect could grow out to be as big as Star Trek or Star Wars. With movies, books, comics, more games, different games, tv series, all of it.

 

Then BioWare painted themselves in the corner with Mass Effect 3's ending and now they're alienating a big part of the fan base. I have the feeling Mass Effect will exist of one or two more games and die a quiet death in five years or so.

[Chealec]

... or they could do a Maxis and totally crap out with ME:A to be shut down by EA a few month's later.

[Element Zero]

Either of these seems likely. It makes me sad, as far as I'll allow a video game series to do so. Like Fogg, I once saw great potential in the IP. Unfortunately, its ownership chose to handle it in a different way.

It's a shame that they, Casey and his team, couldn't see beyond the "it's a trilogy, and that's that" idea. They ended the original trilogy in a way that made sequels difficult because they had no intention of additional material ever being made. Not only were they finished with the setting, but Casey didn't want anyone else tinkering with his baby, either. At least, that's one possible interpretation from the outside looking inward, admittedly with scant facts.

Yet, here we are. Casey is long gone, and BioWare is making another game, anyway. We fans are hoping it will be a worthy successor, but we have few facts and little info, less than a year from launch. Our primary discussion forum is being dissolved, so the community will scatter in the wind. It all feels ominous, even if there is little evidence to suggest good or bad.

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[SKAR]

After the second game, I really thought Mass Effect could grow out to be as big as Star Trek or Star Wars. With movies, books, comics, more games, different games, tv series, all of it.

Then BioWare painted themselves in the corner with Mass Effect 3's ending and now they're alienating a big part of the fan base. I have the feeling Mass Effect will exist of one or two more games and die a quiet death in five years or so.

Well bioware only planned for a trilogy so we can't blame em on that part but with a little bit of hindsight the possibilities are endless.

[AlanC9]

*shrug* No Bio series ever got to five games before. Unless we count expansions as games, none even got to four. Even if ME:A bombs, ME will have done as well as any Bio series ever has.

[SNascimento]

After the second game, I really thought Mass Effect could grow out to be as big as Star Trek or Star Wars. With movies, books, comics, more games, different games, tv series, all of it.

 

Then BioWare painted themselves in the corner with Mass Effect 3's ending and now they're alienating a big part of the fan base. I have the feeling Mass Effect will exist of one or two more games and die a quiet death in five years or so.

You might be right, but the fact is Mass Effect only grew. The endings caused a ****storm, but the franchise wasn't that hurt. People still love it and expectations for Andromeda are high. We might still see adaptations in other media, but they were never a sure thing. 

And they are not alienating a big part of their fanbase, but only a hardcore minority. It's a sad thing, but closing the BSN won't probably hurt Bioware much as far as money is concerned. It only shows that Bioware doesn't care for their most hardcores fans as they used to. As far as the company police goes, interacting with fans is just a PR thing. Although I'm sure individually the people there still want people to look their games. 

[Gannayev of Dreams]

I don't think it comes as a surprise to anyone that the future of the franchise rests entirely on the success of Andromeda. It may appeal to ME's roots, but it is a bit of a departure from what we've come to know. Either people accept the new setting and characters, or the franchise burns. I don't see how they could write themselves back into The Milky Way.

[Druss99]

I think they caught a bolt of lightning with the trilogy and they let it go with that ending. Damage has been done which hasn't been helped by DA2 and DA:I not being particularly great. I suspect Andromeda will be the end of the road.

[Element Zero]

I think they caught a bolt of lightning with the trilogy and they let it go with that ending. Damage has been done which hasn't been helped by DA2 and DA:I not being particularly great. I suspect Andromeda will be the end of the road.

This is my gut-feeling, as well. I hope Andromeda proves otherwise, but this is my feeling.

ME games will continue to be made for as long as they are profitable. Will they really be ME games to us, the original core audience, though, as they drift further from the original aesthetic and ambience? For some, the answer may be yes; for others, it will likely come to be no, at one point or another.

I was looking forward to building hype for ME:A here with you guys. I will need to be sold on a few, key points before I'll buy it. Sadly, now, that won't be possible, and I may have to go down a more spoiler rich path. We'll see.

Either way, the experience will be diminished for the absence of a community with which to share my excitement and frustrations.

[LiechockiRJ]

Mass Effect 1 - Highlander. Clever, charismatic, original. Great villain, sidekick (squadmates) and protagonist

Mass Effect 2 - Highlander 2. Yeah..........

Mass Effect 3 - Highlander 3. Tried to be like the first , but failed. It just was not good enough, simple as that. No soul either. Some cool parts however.

Mass Effect Andromeda - Feels like a Highlander reboot. But a great one, just like the new Planet of the Apes. From there Mass Effect have potencial to be big again.

[SKAR]

*shrug* No Bio series ever got to five games before. Unless we count expansions as games, none even got to four. Even if ME:A bombs, ME will have done as well as any Bio series ever has.

Well every bio series is pretty good and there MEA looks great.

[SKAR]

Mass Effect 1 - Highlander. Clever, charismatic, original. Great villain, sidekick (squadmates) and protagonist

Mass Effect 2 - Highlander 2. Yeah..........

Mass Effect 3 - Highlander 3. Tried to be like the first , but failed. It just was not good enough, simple as that. No soul either. Some cool parts however.

Mass Effect Andromeda - Feels like a Highlander reboot. But a great one, just like the new Planet of the Apes. From there Mass Effect have potencial to be big again.

yeah.............2 and 3 were great.

[Oldren Shepard]

Some of you are the reason for this to happen:

http://blog.bioware....ing-our-forums/

And it will be a trilogy

[SwobyJ]

Mass Effect only got bigger from ME3.

 

However, the concern is that things like:

-The ending controversy

-So much time away from the last game (4-5 years depending on if you count DLC)

-The new 'version' that this 'semi-reboot' will provide

 

...will hamper the franchise from growing further. ME1 was well known in certain gaming circles but that's it. ME2 was well known in gaming but wasn't the biggest. ME3, in my opinion, reached around the highest level of exposure in gaming, but only touched into it, though it did barely it the mainstream.

 

That's growth, but with that, came negativity. And with time, perhaps apathy.

 

But we can't know this for sure for another year from now. Sure Bioware may be relatively silent about MEA for now, but that doesn't mean that'll continue into the rest of this year, or that they won't put the hype on max in early next year. For all we know, 2017 may be absolutely filled with a super active marketing from Bioware that could successfully recover the decline in interest in recent years, and grow the franchise to new heights (whatever those heights may be).

 

I mean, technically, the only SP game flop(?) that I can think of, is DA2. And even that performed well enough to let DAI happen. ME3 still did well, as far as we know, and DAI seemed to do better than either of the previous games in the DA series. Will all of that, and future performance of MEA be good enough for EA to keep things going? I don't know. But that's almost another matter.

 

I do get the sense that Bioware intends on MEA to be a semi-new starting point for Mass Effect and a new sort of attempt to bring the series to the masses. That doesn't mean that it will necessarily disregard the trilogy (though aspects will), but Bioware may be taking the opportunity to resell the idea of Mass Effect. They don't 'need' their previous fanbase to be intact for that, as much as we may hate that. With a few years after the last game and a decade since the first game, that's *almost* like MEA could be considered a Next Generation, with new people exposed to the series, new expectations, and new forms of marketing that Bioware can utilize (see: shutting down the forums but likely not ignoring what social media may offer).

 

 

In terms of personal prediction, I really don't know. In 2017, the results of MEA could range from utter flop, to a new level of reputation. Sure the last couple of years, and the ME3 ending event, were not exactly kind to the franchise. But they were also not selling much (except merch) during this time anyway. Soon they'll have to sell things (games, content, merch, more) and we'll see the results then. 

 

I don't think MEA will make the franchise as big as 'Star ____'. But it at best may reignite the potential for it, that ME1 considered, ME2 first attempted, but ME3 leveled off from.

[SKAR]

MEA is going to be boss.

[LinksOcarina]

Mass Effect 1 - Highlander. Clever, charismatic, original. Great villain, sidekick (squadmates) and protagonist

Mass Effect 2 - Highlander 2. Yeah..........

Mass Effect 3 - Highlander 3. Tried to be like the first , but failed. It just was not good enough, simple as that. No soul either. Some cool parts however.

Mass Effect Andromeda - Feels like a Highlander reboot. But a great one, just like the new Planet of the Apes. From there Mass Effect have potencial to be big again.

 

You have a very grim view of Mass Effect, since all of those highlander movies sucked to begin with.

[SofaJockey]

Would X-Men be a better parallel?

 

Mass Effect 1 - X-Men (2000) - good.

Mass Effect 2 - X2 (2003) - also good.

Mass Effect 3 - X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) - ended poorly.

Mass Effect Andromeda - X-Men: First Class (2011) - sort of a reboot but not quite.

[SKAR]

Would X-Men be a better parallel?

Mass Effect 1 - X-Men (2000) - good.
Mass Effect 2 - X2 (2003) - also good.
Mass Effect 3 - X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) - ended poorly.
Mass Effect Andromeda - X-Men: First Class (2011) - sort of a reboot but not quite.

Looks great so far. But we'll see.

[Dubozz]

So guys what are the other popular games where forums have been closed before the game died by itself. What are some other popular games without forums anyway? Are there any other companies that closed their forums before new game has been released? Bioware looks like a pioneer here or something.

[LinksOcarina]

Would X-Men be a better parallel?

 

Mass Effect 1 - X-Men (2000) - good.

Mass Effect 2 - X2 (2003) - also good.

Mass Effect 3 - X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) - ended poorly.

Mass Effect Andromeda - X-Men: First Class (2011) - sort of a reboot but not quite.

 

I think all parallels are meaningless....

 

If I had to make one though, it would be Star Wars, IV-VII, or IV-VI and Andromeda will be Episode 1...

[rocklikeafool]

I think all parallels are meaningless....

 

If I had to make one though, it would be Star Wars, IV-VII, or IV-VI and Andromeda will be Episode 1...

Someone's feeling pessimistic...

[The Dovahk]

I sure as hell hope not.

 

[LinksOcarina]

Someone's feeling pessimistic...

 

Not really, just offering an opinion on it.

 

Like I said, such comparisons don't really hold much weight unless you fully agree with them. Otherwise they are meaningless. 

[Arcian]

yeah.............2 and 3 were great.

I seriously hope you're talking about Mass Effect and not Highlander.

[GoldenGail3]

Is in question, lol.