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[TheAtomicSurvivor]

The Dalish favor quest is:

 

1) Kind of an annoying quest to begin with, it's like Redcliffe all over again, but midway in the game. Which is silly, imo. I get it from a human Inquisitor perspective, but I am Dalish. Could I at least start off with a bit more favor than none at all?

 

2) Actually my least favorite quest is Someone to Lose;

 

-You lose approval from the Dalish if you tell the sister the truth and people disapprove. Excuse me, there's proof when you look at the body that he was using blood magic or something like it. Oddly enough my Inquisitor Fintan may not like Sera, or some of Solas views, but he's starting to consider it. From an outside point of view his own people are shutting out information and ideas and no longer want to hear the truth.

 

Worse part is Fintan isn't necessarily a jerk, he is simply blunt, and call people out on their stupidity. In hopes to teach them something. In my headcanon Fintan is a ward for one of my other Inquisitors and Fintan acts more like an Inquisition agent who speaks for the Inquisitor. Did you know there is a such thing as Grand Inquisitor?

 

Anyway, point is this quest forces me to Metagame every time in order to win that Dalish favor. Instead of being able to play the character the way I should actually play the character.

 

 

[Gervaise]

I must admit I found this rather annoying if you are playing a Dalish.   I can understand the clan not approving if an outsider comes and tells them the kid was a blood mage because they might feel you were making it up, but when an actual Dalish tells them that the kid was doing forbidden magic (it is taboo for the Dalish) you'd think they would at least just accept it, not actually lower you in their estimation.  It is important the clan knows this is going on for their own safety.   May be it is a bit hard telling the sister the brutal truth but then there should have been an option to tell the Keeper if you wish.   Clearly his teaching and supervision of his students is lacking if they are dabbling with blood magic without him having suspected anything.   

 

Mind you the whole Dalish clan thing is odd.   They seem incapable of doing anything for themselves.   Any clan ought to have people keeping watch constantly on the perimeter given the state of the Exalted Plains.   They should have spotted the kid sneaking off and insisted he took someone with him for protection.    It is a war zone for goodness sake.  

 

So I wouldn't feel bad about metagaming in this instance because of the way the game is stacked against you.   You clear the undead out of their grave site, retrieve the golden halla and bring back numerous items they need for survival, plus hand in the amulet, but they hold it against you for telling the truth.

[TheAtomicSurvivor]

I must admit I found this rather annoying if you are playing a Dalish.   I can understand the clan not approving if an outsider comes and tells them the kid was a blood mage because they might feel you were making it up, but when an actual Dalish tells them that the kid was doing forbidden magic (it is taboo for the Dalish) you'd think they would at least just accept it, not actually lower you in their estimation.  It is important the clan knows this is going on for their own safety.   May be it is a bit hard telling the sister the brutal truth but then there should have been an option to tell the Keeper if you wish.   Clearly his teaching and supervision of his students is lacking if they are dabbling with blood magic without him having suspected anything.   

 

Mind you the whole Dalish clan thing is odd.   They seem incapable of doing anything for themselves.   Any clan ought to have people keeping watch constantly on the perimeter given the state of the Exalted Plains.   They should have spotted the kid sneaking off and insisted he took someone with him for protection.    It is a war zone for goodness sake.  

 

So I wouldn't feel bad about metagaming in this instance because of the way the game is stacked against you.   You clear the undead out of their grave site, retrieve the golden halla and bring back numerous items they need for survival, plus hand in the amulet, but they hold it against you for telling the truth.

 

The Dalish in this game really irritate me.

 

They ignore their own history.

 

Turns out the Exalted March they blamed the Shems on was partly the Dalish fault and they refuse to learn from their mistakes. At some point as a Dalish Inquisitor I should get some dialogue options to speak out against the Dalish myself.

 

Solas Disaproves of my Dalish Inquisitor when we talk about elves, but knowing History.

 

Exploring the ruins

 

Discovering the history

 

the true History

 

Should allow my Dalish Inquisitor to at least have one option that says, "I'm sorry Solas, you're right about my people"

 

I went instead of telling her directly about the blood magic, to telling her teenagers do dumb things. Apparently I still got approval. But my party members disproved, wtf.

[Tidus]

If you listen to the Dalish Keeper at that camp in the Exalted Plains after you speak to him about the elf that wants to join the Inquisition  he more or less calls you a Dalish Elf, a follower of Andraste and a servant to humans which is a very nice  way of thanking you for killing those demons in the Elven grave yard.

 

If I wrote the story I may have used a escape Elven slave from Tevinter or a regular Elf circle mage. Even in my fan story about Tidus or Camin I can't really justify why the Dalish would even care about a Shemlin  problem. A Dwarf smuggler is twenty times is easier to justify in a fan story since he/she was smuggling lyrium into the conclave.

[PhroXenGold]

I must admit I found this rather annoying if you are playing a Dalish.   I can understand the clan not approving if an outsider comes and tells them the kid was a blood mage because they might feel you were making it up, but when an actual Dalish tells them that the kid was doing forbidden magic (it is taboo for the Dalish) you'd think they would at least just accept it, not actually lower you in their estimation.  It is important the clan knows this is going on for their own safety.   May be it is a bit hard telling the sister the brutal truth but then there should have been an option to tell the Keeper if you wish.   Clearly his teaching and supervision of his students is lacking if they are dabbling with blood magic without him having suspected anything.  

 

While I do agree with your post as a whole, I'm not sure why you distinguish between an "outsider" and an "actual Dalish". While an elven Inquisitor might be Dalish, she's still very much an outsider to that clan.

[TheAtomicSurvivor]

If you listen to the Dalish Keeper at that camp in the Exalted Plains after you speak to him about the elf that wants to join the Inquisition  he more or less calls you a Dalish Elf, a follower of Andraste and a servant to humans which is a very nice  way of thanking you for killing those demons in the Elven grave yard.

 

 

But the funny thing is my Dalish Inquisitor has told people over and over and over again

 

He was not a Herald

 

He does not believe in Andrastre 

 

Fintan has made it clear and all though he's emotionally defensive, I chose the armor options often for him, that this was happen circumstance. He only had one moment of gloating and that was in the Fade when they learned the truth about the Divine.

 

He said, "I knew it the whole entire time it wasn't Andrastre that saved me"

 

Fintan has not abandoned his Dalish roots, he protected clan Lavellan. And there should have been more operations to help or reach out to other Dalish clan, being a Dalish Inquisitor.

[Tidus]

Survivor,All 6(3 Elves,2 Humes and a Dwarf) of my Inquisitors keeps saying they're not the Herald. After the truth is learn my Inquisitor decides nobody will listen so, let believe as they will.

 

All three of my Elven inquisitors are fed up with their kind. They see the Keepers of every clan is to stupid to realize the on going feud with the Shemlins will  lead to total annihilation of the Dalish by a King or Queen's army. They realized the old ways and the Elvan kingdom is lost forever. They know the story of the  Dales is keeping the hate for Shemlins alive.

 

Every year the Dalish grows fewer but,the Keepers keeps on teaching old traditions and what was.Tidus,Camin and Chasha was not surprise to learn their clan was wiped out. It was bound to happen.