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[jakenou]

caching is a special use, which there are oodles of lawyers and miles of legal documents that make it very difficult to sue an entity like google over, partly because it's temporary, as far as fair use and assumed copyrighted content goes. *that* kind of internet usage (cookies, etc.) is woven into the ToS of most every website you can add content. what i'm talking about here is completely different.

 

edit, to note, the EA ToS addresses this specifically here:

 

 

 

XI.    Public Information Including User Generated Content, Online Forums, Blogs And Profiles

You may choose to disclose information about yourself in the course of contributing user generated content to EA sites or games or in our online chat rooms, blogs, message boards, user "profiles" for public view or in similar forums on our sites and/or on third party sites. Information that you disclose in any of these forums is unencrypted, public information, may be accessed or recorded by EA employees, and there is no expectation of privacy or confidentiality there.  

You should be aware that any personally identifiable information you submit in the course of these public activities can be read, collected, or used by other users of these forums, and could be used to send you unsolicited messages. We are not responsible for the personally identifiable information you choose to make public in any of these forums.

Note also that in the ordinary course of Internet activity, certain information may be sent from your browser to third parties such as advertising networks and analytics companies.  EA has no control over the information sent from your browser to those networks or other third parties and recommends that you ensure that your browser settings prevent the disclosure of information you would not like to share.

If you post a video, image or photo on one of our sites for public view you should be aware that these may be viewed, collected, copied and/or used by other users without your consent. We are not responsible for the videos, images or photos that you choose to submit to EA's site. Please see our Terms of Service at terms.ea.com on this point and for other guidelines about posting content on our websites.

 

but just because they warn us that our content may be used by others, it does not mean they are giving people permission to do it. it means they are not taking responsibility for it.

 

sure twitter has retweeting as a function, but on the other hand, if somebody takes a video you've made on youtube and reposts it on their own youtube account, even if they let it be known who the original creator was, youtube makes it accessible for the creator to ask that the video be removed.

 

there is a whole lot of gray area on the web still, particularly when it comes to fair use and it's definition, and as much as i understand people wanting to preserve their OWN content here, it would be nice if there were a mindful consideration for others not wanting their content reproduced elsewhere. there seems to be an assumption that everyone is ok with the whole thing getting archived over, and i'm honestly not comfortable with that mindset. if you're going through the trouble of asking people who wants their account preserved, perhaps it would be fair to not transfer the content of those expressly do not want their account and content preserved.

[Rinshikai10]

I'm Rinshikai, both here and on fextralife. Are you able to preserve my Justinia thread?

[DragonKingReborn]

DragonKingReborn....signing on (on Fextralife).  Probably signing off here, I guess...

 

And thanks.

[AngryFrozenWater]

caching is a special use, which there are oodles of lawyers and miles of legal documents that make it very difficult to sue an entity like google over, partly because it's temporary, as far as fair use and assumed copyrighted content goes. *that* kind of internet usage (cookies, etc.) is woven into the ToS of most every website you can add content. what i'm talking about here is completely different.

You can still ask Fexelea to remove your stuff. She mentioned in another thread:

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If someone wants us to delete specific content we can do so, my objective here was preservation of publicly available information.

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Just PM her and see how that goes. She's off to GamesCom 2016 (to interview several game companies) in the next couple of days, but I'm sure she'll respond.

 

I can understand your view, but I'm happy that the content is being preserved, because, unlike the Wayback Machine, it allows me to continue after the close down.

[Fexelea]

Please do not derail this thread.

 

It is not possible to ignore specific posters. If you want to delete your posts, you can

a) do it now before those subforums are scraped

b ) once the import is done find and report the posts so they are removed. (there's no guarantee your posts have been imported)

c) claim an account and then request deletion of associated posts.

[Spirit Vanguard]

I don't want to clutter the thread or disrupt your work, but I wanted to give you this:

 

 

 

[DMc1001]

DMc1001 - same here and on Fextralife

[Nymphonomicon]

Nymphonomicon.
I don't think I really posted here that much, but I'd like to have it saved.

[Mresa]

Mresa same here and on Fextralife

[Thing The Wiz]

I am ThingTheWiz on both forums
Thanks for taking the time to recover all the posts and keeping the Dragon Age community going

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

*snip*

 

People have mentioned some options to you, Jake, but that's as much as you have. Publicly-made statements aren't considered private property.

[Bigdawg13]

I saw that you "liked" my post, but my usernames still aren't associated.  Should I just be patient?

[Fexelea]

It seems I missed your account... sorry running on so little sleep.

I'll add it to batch 4. Apologies!

[jakenou]

one question about creating an account at Fextralife - once an account is created there, and an account here is claimed/linked to it, and what we wanted to accomplish is complete (ex: our tbf account and related content is deleted from the imported archive), can the  Fextralife account be completely deleted? thanks in advance for a definitive response (and perhaps add the answer along with other info to the OP here so that others who want to opt out, instead of opting in, have the resources to do so).

 

 

People have mentioned some options to you, but that's as much as you have. Publicly-made statements aren't considered private property.

 

 

i'm well aware of the options that have been presented. also, i think you're interpreting this to mean something that isn't what i'm talking about, which has nothing to do with private property. 

 

[Tarshana]

just one question - with all of this archiving and exporting of the different forums going on, i might be in the minority, but i do NOT want my posting history to be copied over anywhere else, and prefer for it to be deleted when this board goes offline. with that being said, obviously i am not going to be exporting my profile, but i'd like to know if any posts i've made around bsn/tbf will be transferred over to the new locations. thanks in advance for a reply.

BSN is only saving the mods and public posts for read-only. If you do not want anything you said on a public forum you are free to change your username or something. We will not stop preserving the mods and posts for the 99% who do want it. The 1% is always entitled. 

I am speaking for the BSN Legacy Preservation Project, not Fexetra. There is already information about that, please go read the top posts and contact Fexelea. 

 

[Fylimar]

I would have loved to register, but since your board doesn't like (my very real and in use since more than 15 years) email - adress, I can't create an account. Is there a workaround for that? It's a gmx adress, but it's a real adress, not some fake

[Tarshana]

I would have loved to register, but since your board doesn't like (my very real and in use since more than 15 years) email - adress, I can't create an account. Is there a workaround for that? It's a gmx adress, but it's a real adress, not some fake

 

Use another address and change it after  

[QueenPurpleScrap]

@jakenou

I admit I'm having some difficulty understanding your position for the following reasons:

• your personal information isn't being transferred or copied, just your username to identify posters
• if you don't make an account at Fextralife, I'm not even sure your Bioware handle even shows up. I read somewhere that it will read as 'guest', though I could be wrong and somebody will soon correct me.
• You posted in a public forum. A forum which I am presuming you thought would be up and available far past the foreseeable future (as did most of us) and therefore seen by thousands of strangers. People don't ask you permission before quoting you and deleting your posts won't delete quotes made by others. I fail to see how, at a basic level, copying/transferring your posts where you are the identified User is different from somebody quoting and identifying you. They don't even have to be on these forums to quote you.

That said, you definitely have the right to ask that your posts not be transferred. I am not so sure that it's as easy as you think, however. You may want to start deleting your posts if you haven't already. I'd start with the DA2 forums since I don't think any of them have been transferred yet. Or you could ask one of the moderators to delete yours posts - they seem to be quite happy deleting posts these days.

 

Anyway, I don't have any more to say about this. I hope that, in time, you have a happy resolution.

[Fylimar]

Use another address and change it after

 

I don't know, if that is the best of ideas. Normally, you have to get an email confirmation and for that, you need a working email adress. And my working email adress is not accepted - you see the problem?

[Tarshana]

I don't know, if that is the best of ideas. Normally, you have to get an email confirmation and for that, you need a working email adress. And my working email adress is not accepted - you see the problem?

I have different email address for public and game forums that link to my Linux server email. That way my addresses are legal for the robots to understand but I get all my mail to my central location. So let us say you make a gmail account. You can import that mail to your main account and use it. For right now it is a good idea to preserve what you can before the 6 days is up and everything is read only. We are in crunch time!

[Fylimar]

I have different email address for public and game forums that link to my Linux server email. That way my addresses are legal for the robots to understand but I get all my mail to my central location. So let us say you make a gmail account. You can import that mail to your main account and use it. For right now it is a good idea to preserve what you can before the 6 days is up and everything is read only. We are in crunch time!

 

I did make a new email account just now for that, but I still find it laughable, that a perfectly honest email adress is rejected, while the adress, I created (and most likely will never use again) is ok. Well, I guess, there is much in- and outside the internet, that doesn't make sense and board registrations are the worst. I sometimes get a bit frustrated, but thank you for your recommendation nevertheless

 

@Fexlea

Well - now that I have climbed that cliff - I'm ready to get transfered: I used the same nick as here: fylimar

[Tarshana]

I did make a new email account just now for that, but I still find it laughable, that a perfectly honest email adress is rejected, while the adress, I created (and most likely will never use again) is ok. Well, I guess, there is much in- and outside the internet, that doesn't make sense and board registrations are the worst. I sometimes get a bit frustrated, but thank you for your recommendation nevertheless

 

@Fexlea

Well - now that I have climbed that cliff - I'm ready to get transfered: I used the same nick as here: fylimar

I feel ya My actual email address has a funny name to it and it was constantly being rejected. Ah well Welcome to Fextra

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Bioware BSN

- Shinian

- They call me a SpaceCowboy

 

Fextralife

SpaceCowboy

 

Finally I can do this!

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

one question about creating an account at Fextralife - once an account is created there, and an account here is claimed/linked to it, and what we wanted to accomplish is complete (ex: our tbf account and related content is deleted from the imported archive), can the  Fextralife account be completely deleted? thanks in advance for a definitive response (and perhaps add the answer along with other info to the OP here so that others who want to opt out, instead of opting in, have the resources to do so).

 

 

 

 

i'm well aware of the options that have been presented. also, i think you're interpreting this to mean something that isn't what i'm talking about, which has nothing to do with private property. 

 

It's very confusing, to be honest, and I'm not surprised that anyone - including me - would have a hard time understanding what you're asking for.

 

You seemed to think my reference to tweets and posts was about "quoting" and "retweeting," but it was not. I was saying to "copy and redistribute."

 

If you tweet something, even if you delete it, it is still entirely legal for anyone to publicly attribute the tweet to you, in a publicly recorded form. You can't sue a journalist for talking about something you tweeted on TV any more than you can say someone doesn't have permission to copy your tweet into a forum post.

 

Similarly, publicly posted material (including forum posts) can be recopied and redistributed in any form.

 

The only exception to any of this is statements made with the expectation of privacy. When you sign a ToS that includes what you quoted - that your public statements are not considered private or protected - you don't have an expectation of privacy. Your statements are public, and there is no way for you to exert privacy laws over them.

 

On a personal note, I truly don't understand why any of this would be seen as harmful to you. Anything here is from pseudonyms. Halting the preservation can cause potential harm to others, as information on this site is valuable to people who buy BioWare products. Surely you can understand the value in preserving the quality of BioWare games for people by allowing public access to the metadata?

 

Edit:

 

An example:

 

This was one of my first google results.

 

Even if you delete everything from this site, and everything from the sites created to move information over (there are at least 4 that I know of) there are still dozens of those archives out there, with all of your posts, and no ability for you to edit or delete any of the information.

 

You can't even succeed in deleting all your posts from BioWare's site here, because any that have been locked or "deleted" can't be accessed by you, but have already been archived many dozens of times elsewhere.

 

What you're trying to do really can't be done. Even if you delete everything from Fextralife, that's just one of dozens.

[Fylimar]

I feel ya My actual email address has a funny name to it and it was constantly being rejected. Ah well Welcome to Fextra

 

 

Thank you