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[The Dovahk]

Then why are you here? 

To see it go.

[Han Shot First]

"I'm not much of a forum guy..."

That's why he doesn't get it.

[SPACE_GREASER]

"I'm not much of a forum guy..."

That's why he doesn't get it.

 

Haha wtf, who said that???

 

EDIT: oh, the scrub in the vid. lol

[GoldenGail3]

 

Bioware, if Adromana fails. 

[KotorEffect3]

Bioware died in 2007 this is just the death throes.

lol chicken littles

[Sanunes]

Bioware died in 2007 this is just the death throes.

 

People have been saying this since Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 1 since they were nothing like their predecessors so I don't see how EA is responsible for what you consider the death of a company.

[fdrty]

People have been saying this since Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 1 since they were nothing like their predecessors so I don't see how EA is responsible for what you consider the death of a company.

 

This. A lot of people blame EA for Bioware's missteps, but we simply do not know how much of what happens is due to whom. Yes, EA do, in part, deserve their bad reputation. But they aren't responsible for every failure in every studio they own. I don't see how people can assign blame like they know anything behind the scenes, without a shred of self-awareness.

 

also, Bioware aren't dead. They aren't the same company they were in 2007, or 1998, but, honestly, which studio is? They've changed, but their games, while not at their full potential, are still some of the best rpgs available today. They're making a lot of money for EA - people who think the forum closures are a prelude to Bioware being shut down are alarmists who think that this place matters far more than it does.

 

While I hate that they're closing the forums, I don't really think this will damage the sales of MEA or hurt them financially. If anything, it'll benefit them. BSN has way too many whiners, especially after DA2 and ME3. You're a new player or someone looking to get a bioware game, you head to the official forums and everything is about how much the hair sucks, the romance sucks, the combat sucks, the ending sucks, the dlc sucks etc, and that's going to be off-putting. Closing the forums is removing a huge base of negativity, and that is probably the core reason to why its happening.

[RoboArigatou]

Raise your dongers.

[SPACE_GREASER]

Raise your dongers.

 

....Truer words were never spoken

[RoboArigatou]

....Truer words were never spoken

 

Don't even ****** talk to me.

[ZipZap2000]

Loooooooool

[RoboArigatou]

LUL

[ZipZap2000]

LUL

Lel.

[rossler]

Not going anywhere.
EA's stock price up 25% or so year to date, and DAI was considered a success.
However, the ME3 endings fiasco contributed to a 1+ billion dollar market cap loss for EA in the weeks following the fiasco. A reply of this and I imagine all bets are off.

There could be many reasons for a stock price to drop like that. Can't contribute it all to ME3's ending.

[BananaDePijama]

BioWare is shutting down its Forums.

Fans reactions: " OMG BIOWARE IS DOOMED, THEY ARE CLOSING DOORS, EA IS THE DEVIL... THE END IS NEAR B*TCHES... "

[GoldenGail3]

 

BioWare is shutting down its Forums.

Fans reactions: " OMG BIOWARE IS DOOMED, THEY ARE CLOSING DOORS, EA IS THE DEVIL... THE END IS NEAR B*TCHES... "

 

That's accurate indeed.

[Spectr61]

There could be many reasons for a stock price to drop like that. Can't contribute it all to ME3's ending.

Read the post; I did not say that ME3 was responsible for it all, what I said was that "the ME3 endings fiasco contributed" to the market cap decline.

Where did you get that I said it was all from ME3?

[ZipZap2000]

That's accurate indeed.

So is this btw.

[Anacronian Stryx]

People have been saying this since Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 1 since they were nothing like their predecessors so I don't see how EA is responsible for what you consider the death of a company.

Have you ever heard of the concept of "The tone at the top?"

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=A6TmTv6deTI

[Sanunes]

Have you ever heard of the concept of "The tone at the top?"

 

 

 

 

I have, but what does that have to do when people were complaining about content that was created before EA took over and many people that post now consider it the "pinnacle of BioWare" while others thought it foreshadowed "the doom of the company".

 

Personally I really don't care what some random person has to say about the two companies on YouTube since they won't have the knowledge about what happens inside either company its all speculation.

[Sifr]

The last time I saw someone bending so far backwards to rationalise such bad decisions, it was Lucas' reaction to the rough cut of Episode I.

 

Spoiler

[Linkenski]

I highly disagree that there are better ways to communicate with your community.

 

Twitter and Facebook are not good mediums to get into big discussions,

And this is where BioWare realized that "big discussions" like with the ME3 ending was maybe 50% of what led to that massive media outburst and controversy, because people had a place that was both kinda popular and a gathering place for all fans of a particular product to pick it apart and criticise it more than any IGN employee could ever bother to, because they have embargoes and deep down they aren't really super passionate fans, just people that have video games as a thing they invest some time in as opposed to the kinds of fans in here that can get into Mass Effect and then stick around for that one franchise for years.

 

BioWare never stopped the damage control following the ME3 disaster because the repurcussions of the damage that had been done kept prolonging itself, particularly in here. Even NeoGAF, who can't talk about a single game without complaining about something had a less explosive discussion about the game even if the spoiler topic for it went on for a lot of pages. Reddit is also not a place where people go to ****** and moan about something that is admittedly god-awful as the ME3 ending. In fact I've had some of the longest and most insisting arguments with people there going on for literally days where they came up with the longest and most substantial counterpoints for the ending being terrible that I've seen so far. People at Reddit are pretty darn positive. It's only when you go here that you see the agenda of "Let's **** on BioWare because we can't forgive them for ****** ME3 up so bad!", but this is also the place where people are the most greasy and demanding about romances and all that.

 

I think this forum just devolved over the years. I didn't participate much at all before ME3 so I have only known negative/toxic BSN which admittedly made my impression of ME3's ending even worse even if it was always un-defendable.

 

I don't really approve of them shutting the place down, but I do think it's overall a good decision because it forces everyone to seek out the other places where the negativity is less of a general theme and more just here and there. Perhaps those other places will become more negative as well now that all the "toxic" fans are spread wildly across the internet but even us, the whiny haters in here are kinda decent, I've seen it often, and inevitably people will be slighlty more affected by the more nuanced concensus of those other sites, and perhaps it may reduce the overwhelming amount of criticism and hatred towards Bioware.

 

But I hope BioWare don't believe shutting the most toxic fan-gathering place down is going to shut up everyone who genuinely dislike it whenever they make shitty games. If ME:A isn't up to what people expect, ****'s going down all over again; it's just going to ring a slightly different tune perhaps but there will always be the fans that care enough to take BioWare to task whenever they're being slackers or whenever EA is to blame for making them rush their projects out the door. They are a high-profile Developer with a very solid portfolio of games under their belt. They put their work out there and they can expect it to receive the proper amount of criticism if it isn't well made, or else the employees of BioWare have put themselves in the wrong business. They know the criticism they get is all part of being the kind of artists they are. Their attempts at damage control is often misguided and I'm not fully sure what the ingoing intention of shutting this place down is, but I hope it's like I said, to split the waters or something rather than genuinely believing they are killing the negative voices that annoy them.

 

Was this at all coherent? No? Well, whatever then

[SNascimento]

However, the ME3 endings fiasco contributed to a 1+ billion dollar market cap loss for EA in the weeks following the fiasco. A replay of this and I imagine all bets are off.

It might be worth mentioning that the drop was a constant way before Mass Effect 3 was released. So even though I'm sure it had it share of contribution as you put it, it's just one more factor in a bigger problem. 

[BioWareMod02]

As this thread is off-topic it is being closed.