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MEA better be a complete story since Bioware's days look numbered


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spinachdiaper

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MEA can't be a new beginning since it looks like Bioware is going the way of the Dodo.

MEA better not be a tale to be finished later, too many times I've got into something that has not seen a proper ending...

Half life, Legacy of Kain, Advent Rising and let's not add Mass Effect Andromeda to that list.


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Mass Effect 3 sells almost a million copies in a week, grosses over 200 million.

Dragon Age inquisition wins GOTY and performs above expectations, leading to an unusually strong quarter for EA.

 

But Bioware is apparently going to go extinct.

 

Sure, buddy.


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ApocAlypsE007

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Mass Effect 3 sells almost a million copies in a week, grosses over 200 million.

Dragon Age inquisition wins GOTY and performs above expectations, leading to an unusually strong quarter for EA.

 

But Bioware is apparently going to go extinct.

 

Sure, buddy.

It didn't stop EA from closing studios. Besides, you don't know what goes behind the scenes.



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KaiserShep

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It didn't stop EA from closing studios. Besides, you don't know what goes behind the scenes.

 

 

If we don't know what goes on behind the scenes, how do people figure BioWare is on its way out? 


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Zarro Khai

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Actually, Bioware already has a new IP planned some time in the future so no, they're not shutting down anytime soon. Whether that IP remains an rpg is another question but if you're worried about Bioware's future, I've got one thing to tell you; don't be. 


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Actually, Bioware already has a new IP planned some time in the future so no, they're not shutting down anytime soon. Whether that IP remains an rpg is another question but if you're worried about Bioware's future, I've got one thing to tell you; don't be. 

 

That is more than likely true. BUT they did have another new IP a few years back that was under development for a while before ultimately being canceled (Shadow Realms or something) so the fact that there's a new IP out there isn't the strongest indication of a company's longevity.


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They are not having the dragon age
People sitting around doing nothing.
It was said that they wanted the forums closed for years. Clearly the vote passed this year
In most cases bioware has delivered very good games
Forum is infested with trolls (i have been guilty of this at times) however this is typical of most game forums (we basically have a hideaway thread for witcher fans on a bioware forum) tells me everything i need to know about their games forums.
We have
Grammer trolls- really dont care what you think of my grammer as i didnt come here to be made sport of.
Expert trolls- you dont anymore of the inner workings of bioware than the rest of us
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The Dovahk

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It didn't stop EA from closing studios. Besides, you don't know what goes behind the scenes.

You don't either.



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ME1 Complete Story- Yeah

ME2 Complete Story- Yeah

ME3 Complete Story- 96% Yeah

MEA Complete Story- Most Likely


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I hope your revenge fantasy doesn't materialize. You're mad that they're closing the forums so you fantasize about Bioware dying, but I rather enjoy Bioware games, forum or not.


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" since it looks like Bioware is going the way of the Dodo."

You're a smart guy. Or not. You decide...

 

Although all the evidence points to the complete opposite of your theory.


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*rolleyes + much yawning*

 

This is what happens when people have too much time on their hands - they come up with completely ridiculous fantasies.


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Forum is infested with trolls (i have been guilty of this at times) however this is typical of most game forums (we basically have a hideaway thread for witcher fans on a bioware forum) tells me everything i need to know about their games forums.

 

True, sometimes I do wonder if this forum has more witcher fans than BioWare fans.


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Mass Effect 3 sells almost a million copies in a week, grosses over 200 million.

Dragon Age inquisition wins GOTY and performs above expectations, leading to an unusually strong quarter for EA.

 

But Bioware is apparently going to go extinct.

 

Sure, buddy.

 

ME3 damaged EA and BioWare, and Inquisition clearly didn't do as amazingly well as BioWare would like the world to believe. If DAI was a huge hit they would release sales numbers. They haven't, which says a lot more than PR bragging does. And we don't know how much exactly these games cost to make so sales figures alone aren't even a solid indicator of how well their games do. Besides, the Dragon Age IP looks to be dead, which wouldn't happen if DAI really knocked it out of the park. 

And now MEA is getting off to a very rocky start with a lengthy and delayed dev cycle with nothing to show for it and the long-running forums being shut down shortly before the game is supposed to start its much-delayed marketing blitz. These might not be signs that BioWare is shutting down in the near future, but they certainly aren't signs that BioWare is doing well.


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If DAI was a huge hit they would release sales numbers. They haven't, which says a lot more than PR bragging does. And we don't know how much exactly these games cost to make so sales figures alone aren't even a solid indicator of how well their games do. Besides, the Dragon Age IP looks to be dead, which wouldn't happen if DAI really knocked it out of the park. 

 

They don't release sales numbers because it invites too much comparison and scrutiny and honestly it's not that important exactly how much a game sell, what matters is how profitable a game is. You seem to think that unreleased sales numbers MUST mean that the game underperformed, but it would only really mean that if EA released sales numbers for everything - which they don't.

 

I never said that the sales numbers were great, even though they clearly were. I said that the share price increased, which indicated that it performed well. If it had underperformed, then stock would have been sold, and that would have meant a lower stock price.

 

The series is about as dead as the Elder Scrolls. That is, not dead at all. It's in between instalments (not everyone treats their franchises like Ubisoft), but if you want to bet on Dragon Age never coming back then I will gladly take you up on that.

 

 

 

And now MEA is getting off to a very rocky start with a lengthy and delayed dev cycle with nothing to show for it and the long-running forums being shut down shortly before the game is supposed to start its much-delayed marketing blitz. These might not be signs that BioWare is shutting down in the near future, but they certainly aren't signs that BioWare is doing well.

 

1 They showed something. Trailers at E3 is something. We didn't get much in game footage, but the distance between now and MEA's launch is greater than the distance between Fallout 4's announcement and launch.

 

2 They shut down the forums because they suck. Not because they can't afford it or some other conspiracy theories. We suck The fans have become overly critical and negative and it's just not worth Bioware supporting that on their own dime. Bioware and EA are not idiots, they know that, even without the forums if they mess MEA up there will be very public criticism. But it doesn't have to be on their doorstep, and it certainly doesn't have to be at their expense.


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KaiserShep

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Yeah I'm not getting the whole DA IP is dead thing myself. What is this based on? 


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Yeah I'm not getting the whole DA IP is dead thing myself. What is this based on? 

 

The words of a mad prophet.

 

 

“Repent! The end is nigh!”



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If DAI was a huge hit they would release sales numbers. They haven't, which says a lot more than PR bragging does. And we don't know how much exactly these games cost to make so sales figures alone aren't even a solid indicator of how well their games do.


So, the figure is meaningless, but not releasing that meaningless figure is meaningful.
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The idea of a complete story is subjective. 

 

Same goes for a proper ending. 


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If we don't know what goes on behind the scenes, how do people figure BioWare is on its way out? 

Based on empirical evidence and past experience. A flood of people leaving, next to no info about ME:A despite promises, shutting down official forums. Each of these can be explained individually, but together they paint a certain picture. Westwood experienced similar things before the shutdown.



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Mass Effect 3 sells almost a million copies in a week, grosses over 200 million.

Dragon Age inquisition wins GOTY and performs above expectations, leading to an unusually strong quarter for EA.

 

But Bioware is apparently going to go extinct.

 

Sure, buddy.

 

Made no sense to me either.



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Closing the forum doesn't equal going out of business, so I suspect you'll get your "full story".



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That is more than likely true. BUT they did have another new IP a few years back that was under development for a while before ultimately being canceled (Shadow Realms or something) so the fact that there's a new IP out there isn't the strongest indication of a company's longevity.

 

The initial reaction to Shadow Realms was really poor, and apparently they couldn't get the game to work right.

 

At least from my understanding of it's history. Shame too it had a novel concept. 


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The initial reaction to Shadow Realms was really poor, and apparently they couldn't get the game to work right.

 

At least from my understanding of it's history. Shame too it had a novel concept. 

 

I'm hoping that the new IP is in good shape and they are just waiting to announce it until MEA comes out. It makes sense at this point in time not to release any info which might detract from hyping MEA, but I would still like to know more about it soon...


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I'm hoping that the new IP is in good shape and they are just waiting to announce it until MEA comes out. It makes sense at this point in time not to release any info which might detract from hyping MEA, but I would still like to know more about it soon...

 

We know they are working on it still. Hopefully after Andromeda is released we see a bit of what it is.