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[Bakgrind]

Yeah I'm not getting the whole DA IP is dead thing myself. What is this based on? 

 

It probably has to do with that there has has not been any announcement ( at least from what I have seen ) that there will be a continuation to the  rpg series.

[BSpud]

True, sometimes I do wonder if this forum has more witcher fans than BioWare fans.

 

Witcher fans over on their official forums and in general are cool people. But the ones who post in the forums of other publishers tend to be the annoying crusaders. They really do the Witcher series a disservice. Those games are great and deserve better than people like Dutch. For years, these semi-trolls have been coming over to BSN and basically doing unintentional anti-PR for CD Projekt.

[AlanC9]

Well, I suppose we have our own people going onto TW3 boards and making Bio fans look bad.

[AlanC9]

Based on empirical evidence and past experience. A flood of people leaving, next to no info about ME:A despite promises, shutting down official forums. Each of these can be explained individually, but together they paint a certain picture. Westwood experienced similar things before the shutdown.

 

 

The problem with this theory is that it involves EA paying Bio Edmonton salaries for a year and a half with no upcoming product to show for it. It's not crazy to say that this might happen, but it would be a crazy plan for EA to be executing.

[LinksOcarina]

It probably has to do with that there has has not been any announcement ( at least from what I have seen ) that there will be a continuation to the  rpg series.

 

We got an annoucnement for Inquisition after Mass Effect 3 was released. I presume the same pattern will continue. 

[Giantdeathrobot]

It probably has to do with that there has has not been any announcement ( at least from what I have seen ) that there will be a continuation to the  rpg series.

 

That's how Bioware has worked for some time. If I recall correctly, Inquisition was announced after ME3 launched, and way before it was even close to release. 

 

Inquisition also got 3 DLCs greenlit and was a strong launch (EA doesn't post sales figures anymore), which is more than what could be said for DA2 which had its expansion canned. I fail to see how we can come to the conclusion Dragon Age is a dead IP then.

[Steelcan]

That's how Bioware has worked for some time. If I recall correctly, Inquisition was announced after ME3 launched, and way before it was even close to release. 

 

Inquisition also got 3 DLCs greenlit and was a strong launch (EA doesn't post sales figures anymore), which is more than what could be said for DA2 which had its expansion canned. I fail to see how we can come to the conclusion Dragon Age is a dead IP then.

I think its largely paranoia induced by the closure of the forum, and BioWare's clear lack of clarity on the real reasons for it.

 

Though, I agree, DA isn't really in trouble.  ME seems to me to be much more on the rocks.

[SPACE_GREASER]

Lmfao

 

Another one of these... I knew OP was gonna get it bad

[Drone223]

I think its largely paranoia induced by the closure of the forum, and BioWare's clear lack of clarity on the real reasons for it.

 

Though, I agree, DA isn't really in trouble.  ME seems to me to be much more on the rocks.

Indeed especially since ME:A is not really that far off and we've yet to see any proper gameplay footage and have next to no details about the game itself. All of that makes it likely that Bioware has very little confidence in ME:A.

[Silvos]

We got an annoucnement for Inquisition after Mass Effect 3 was released. I presume the same pattern will continue. 

 

Inquisition was announced(as being in development) in Spring of 2011, just a few months after DA2 was released. It just didn't get an official title until after ME3 was released. And they announced MEA before DAI was released, so this theory really doesn't hold water. 

[Sartoz]

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I agree with the OP.

What I'm hoping is that Jemisin canon text with Initiation/Initiative book does not conflict with ME:A main story and characters.

[Killroy]

So, the figure is meaningless, but not releasing that meaningless figure is meaningful.

Where did I say sales figures are meaningless? If you can't make a valid argument then why are you arguing at all? Just for the sake of arguing, like you always do?
 

They don't release sales numbers because it invites too much comparison and scrutiny and honestly it's not that important exactly how much a game sell, what matters is how profitable a game is. You seem to think that unreleased sales numbers MUST mean that the game underperformed, but it would only really mean that if EA released sales numbers for everything - which they don't.

EA picks and chooses which games they release sales figures for. I know a lot of people would like to believe that they choose arbitrarily, but that's just dumb. Why would they release sales figures for their biggest hits but not DAI if DAI was one of their biggest hits? This isn't rocket surgery.
 

I never said that the sales numbers were great, even though they clearly were.

Prove it.
 

I said that the share price increased, which indicated that it performed well. If it had underperformed, then stock would have been sold, and that would have meant a lower stock price.

Their share price increased in the quarter DAI came out. That's not proof that DAI increased their share price. Their share price increased the quarter before that and it had nothing to do with DAI so how could their share price increasing the quarter DAI came out be proof that DAI is what increased their share price?
 

The series is about as dead as the Elder Scrolls. That is, not dead at all. It's in between instalments (not everyone treats their franchises like Ubisoft), but if you want to bet on Dragon Age never coming back then I will gladly take you up on that.

THE creative force of Dragon Age left BioWare(he said he was "burned out" but left for a more stressful position at a completely different company) and there's been no indication that a new title is in development. Several devs of DAI have said that they're in "standby" just waiting around for the greenlight. And they've never waited to announce to new games until another game has launched.
 

1 They showed something. Trailers at E3 is something. We didn't get much in game footage, but the distance between now and MEA's launch is greater than the distance between Fallout 4's announcement and launch.

They've shown zero gameplay, zero gameplay mechanics, zero dialog, zero companions. And how in the hell is Fallout 4 at all relevant? Did Fallout 4 get revealed nearly 4 years before it launched and have a slow trickle of non-content to build hype over those 4 years? No. So stop making that stupid comparison.
 

2 They shut down the forums because they suck. Not because they can't afford it or some other conspiracy theories. We suck The fans have become overly critical and negative and it's just not worth Bioware supporting that on their own dime. Bioware and EA are not idiots, they know that, even without the forums if they mess MEA up there will be very public criticism. But it doesn't have to be on their doorstep, and it certainly doesn't have to be at their expense.

So you're calling BioWare liars? They won't say the real reason for shutting down the forums, making them liars, according to you.

[AlanC9]

Where did I say sales figures are meaningless?

You said they weren't a solid indicator, did you not?

As for valid arguments, I'm just waiting for one to show its head. So far all I'm seeing is hysterical whining and confirmation bias.