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[JamieCOTC]

https://youtu.be/2I6LLVw1uTo

 

At 4:17 Mac Walters lets slip(?) that the game releases spring next year, 2017. N7 day would be roughly 4 to 6 months before that supposed date. So, unless the game is delayed, everything does seem to be on track.

[Kantr]

I honestly don't think delaying a game hurts its prospects.  But releasing an unpolished game does.

Duke Nukem was delayed a long time and turned out bad.

[vbibbi]

Worrying is like a rocking chair. It gives you something to do, but doesn't get you anywhere.

 

 

Plenty of games don't reveal much of any info or in-game footage over 6 months prior to release. Personally, I like the fact that so much of the game experience hasn't already been revealed/spoiled before release. Avoiding that terrible trend in pop culture is preferable.

 

True, but at this point, people who are looking for any kind of MEA news are going to latch on to any snippet of information. People who are going to want to avoid spoilers should probably begin going on a media blackout soon.

 

Every time I see "polish", I read it as "from Poland". So now I'm imagining theater in Warsaw. Nice city, but their escalator ruined my shoe, so not a big fan (I'm just thankful it had thick sole, better ruined shoe than shredded foot).

 

Krakow is a more aesthetically pleasing city, IMO. Probably less shoe-eating escalators, too.

[darkway1]

Actually, that FPS is the very reason they aren't focusing on ME:A right now... Battlefield 1 is a huge deal in the gaming world and they are rightfully focusing on its marketing since it is due before ME:A. 

 

And given how they gave DA:I time and didn't rush it and have given this game time, it seems  more like EA has learned from its mistakes instead of simply spouting PR nonsense like some claim here.

 

EA are at a games event,with the aim of promoting their games.....ME is one of them,so a few concept images,a general update about ME progress isn't really going to conflict with the likes of BF and Titanfall is it?

 

I really can't grasp how some people think in the gaming community on times......just because BF is out for Xmas it means we can't talk or promote anything else,if that was the case then why do we have the E3 Mass Effect Andromeda Trailer....or the trailer before that one....????

 

Even talking about ME remasters is a form of stealth PR for Andromeda,it all creates Mass Effect buzz in some shape or form.

 

It's just all bizarre to me,EA obviously wants the PR,they are at a PR event (gamescon),people are genuinely interested in Mass Effect and asking about it........and....and....nothing.???????

[DarkKnightHolmes]

At this rate, it'll be the next Last Guardian.

[Drone223]

EA are at a games event,with the aim of promoting their games.....ME is one of them,so a few concept images,a general update about ME progress isn't really going to conflict with the likes of BF and Titanfall is it?

 

I really can't grasp how some people think in the gaming community on times......just because BF is out for Xmas it means we can't talk or promote anything else,if that was the case then why do we have the E3 Mass Effect Andromeda Trailer....or the trailer before that one....????

 

Even talking about ME remasters is a form of stealth PR for Andromeda,it all creates Mass Effect buzz in some shape or form.

 

It's just all bizarre to me,EA obviously wants the PR,they are at a PR event (gamescon),people are genuinely interested in Mass Effect and asking about it........and....and....nothing.???????

Exactly, EA keeps saying they don't want their other games to overshadow ME:A yet they are overshadowing ME:A buy showing us nothing about it. Every excuse Bioware/EA has made for not showing/telling anything with regrades to ME:A has been terrible.

[The Dovahk]

So...closing the forums, and now EA basically said 'DELAY'.  Either Bioware is wrong, or EA is.  Maybe he wasn't supposed to say that until AFTER the 26th?

They delayed it the first time mainly to polish it up, so I don't think we'll get another delay.

[AlanC9]

Exactly, EA keeps saying they don't want their other games to overshadow ME:A yet they are overshadowing ME:A buy showing us nothing about it. Every excuse Bioware/EA has made for not showing/telling anything with regrades to ME:A has been terrible.

How does EA not showing us anything until, say, four months before release hurt them? I mean, sure, some idiots will say that this proves the game will be terrible, but nobody's going to listen to them, right?

[Mcfly616]

True, but at this point, people who are looking for any kind of MEA news are going to latch on to any snippet of information. People who are going to want to avoid spoilers should probably begin going on a media blackout soon.

 Wanting to avoid spoilers or not is irrelevant. If it were only "latching " onto any snippet they can get, it wouldn't be so pathetic. The topic of discussion is the lack of information about the game, and a good deal of people worried about the game in one way or another due solely to said lack of info. 

 

 

I simply pointed out that plenty of games have released even less info in the year prior to release. It's nothing out of the ordinary and not usually anything to worry about.

[Killroy]

They delayed it the first time mainly to polish it up, so I don't think we'll get another delay.

 

That's obviously not true though. "Polish" in this instance clearly requires quotation marks. 

[Drone223]

How does EA not showing us anything until, say, four months before release hurt them? I mean, sure, some idiots will say that this proves the game will be terrible, but nobody's going to listen to them, right?

The game was teased over 2 years ago they've should've released gameplay footage by now as well as some general. Bioware keeps saying they'll us more at a certain date but when that day finally comes they tells next to nothing about the game and yet again tell us that they'll reveal more at a later date. Most if not all we know about ME:A comes from leaks not Bioware/EA.

[SofaJockey]

Believe the financial reports which puts it end of March.

From N7 day, 5 months for promotion.

 

Plenty.

[Cheviot]

How does EA not showing us anything until, say, four months before release hurt them? I mean, sure, some idiots will say that this proves the game will be terrible, but nobody's going to listen to them, right?

Exactly.  Haven't we been through this situation before multiple times for different games before?  Once the game releases, all this waiting will be forgotten.  I mean, who now even remembers the time when CDPR delayed the Witcher 3 then almost literally said "We promise we won't delay it again.  We're professional devs" then went and delayed it again?  The quality of a game is only proven by the quality of a game, not any pre-release stuff.

 

Besides, if anyone does listen to those idiots, it might actually help how MEA is recieved.  Earlier on this year, Doom wasn't really catching much hype and, when it was announced reviewers weren't getting access to the game until the last minute, the game achieved practically negative hype, since the game must be bad if the devs are keeping it back, right? Very few expected it to be a good game, which made the fact it was very good all the more surprising, and generated amazing word of mouth.

[DanielCofour]

The question is, what is meant with "polish stage" anyway? Making something that already works well extra shiny?

Most of the time these days, "polish" means that it's still so unstable that they fear the customer backlash more than the shareholder complaints about a delay. But that's not what the word "polish" means, that's "technical difficulties".

 

I believe that's the stage where someone steals your car. 

 

C'MON, BAN ME.

[AlanC9]

The game was teased over 2 years ago they've should've released gameplay footage by now as well as some general. Bioware keeps saying they'll us more at a certain date but when that day finally comes they tells next to nothing about the game and yet again tell us that they'll reveal more at a later date. Most if not all we know about ME:A comes from leaks not Bioware/EA.

This is not an answer to my question. How does not doing what they "should" do hurt EA?

[Killroy]

This is not an answer to my question. How does not doing what they "should" do hurt EA?

EA partly bases their quarterly earnings projections on pre-orders for upcoming AAA titles. Not giving people the chance to pre-order a game for a long time hurts them, and not giving people any reason to pre-order a game for a long time hurts them.

[deuce985]

Got to love the typical BSN negativity that spews plenty of hyperbole as fact rather than purely speculation. No wonder they're shutting these forums down. Anyways, I'm not going to quote specific posts in here but I'll just touch on a few subjects.

 

-DA2 was rushed. Yes, most of us will agree on that. Doesn't mean it was solely EA's decision. Do you think they're just going to be evil overlords and tell their subordinates hit this deadline or you're going to be sorry? No, probably more along the lines of Bioware and EA MUTUALLY agreed to this since maybe Bioware wanted to explore and experiment with more self-contained stories. If you could do it well and fast easy way to make money for a business? They would probably agree it didn't work as intended which is why they changed their development in DAI.

 

-Did you guys just gloss over the fact he said it's still on track for release? Maybe he completely missed what date it's being revealed and in fact, the devs themselves said more this fall. I don't even think Peter Moore is involved with this part of EA so he's not fully informed on what's going on with this project. He mostly deals with their competitive division or sports games to my knowledge.

 

-Bioware even mentioned many months back and so did EA they changed how they market their games. Is this not obvious by now? They revealed ME:A BEFORE this new initiative went in place but since then they've barely showed games unless they're close to release. Even BF1 just got revealed a few months ago and it's about to release. That's a much bigger franchise than ME:A. Bioware specifically was burned by how they showed an early demo to DAI that had missing features when the game released. They're using the Rockstar method or Bethesda where they reveal a game a few months before release and let the hype marketing train roll to release. They obviously think this works better for sales because it doesn't seem to hurt those companies. You ask why did they show ME:A off before this: Simple - the marketing plan wasn't in place until now. All projects moving forward follow the formula and since ME:A never showed gameplay they can do this.

 

I don't think a delay is happening again unless something bad happens. They're just waiting for their time in the spotlight and that will likely happen once TitanFall 2 and Battlefield 1 release when EA can devote all their marketing to Mass Effect which will carry the first quarter for them next year for their shareholders(or expecting to). So much internet hate on EA when they've really started to clean up how they handle their games. Battlefield 4 was a mess at release and since then even DICE has been better. Battlefront was a very clean game at launch unlike BF3/BF4. DAI got extended development time and won GOTY awards by many. Mass Effect Andromeda has been in development since ME3 was done or around that time. If it's not a good game it will not be because EA forced it out the door it's because Bioware failed at the opportunity they gave them. Not everything is on the publishers shoulder and I'm more inclined to believe what Moore said there where they don't touch Bioware. I've read from many sources EA allows more creativity than most publishers. Maybe that's their problem right there they don't control their studios enough. I could imagine how badly that would burn the internet if it was true thinking the evil overlord is responsible for everything going wrong with a game. At same point studios need to be held responsible for their actions.

[AlanC9]

EA partly bases their quarterly earnings projections on pre-orders for upcoming AAA titles. Not giving people the chance to pre-order a game for a long time hurts them, and not giving people any reason to pre-order a game for a long time hurts them.

This is silly. You wouldn't use the same projection method for a game that was taking pre-orders six months early as you would for a game that wasn't taking pre-orders.

I'm not saying they're not doing projections that way -- I have no idea how they do them -- just that it's an obviously stupid and self-destructive way to do projections.

[Killroy]

This is silly. You wouldn't use the same projection method for a game that was taking pre-orders six months early as you would for a game that wasn't taking pre-orders.

I'm not saying they're not doing projections that way -- I have no idea how they do them -- just that it's an obviously stupid and self-destructive way to do projections.

Are you having a stroke? How could pre-orders for a product be a bad way to gauge interest in that product? The reason they do pre-orders well in advance is because it works out very well for them financially.

[AtreiyaN7]

I don't see a problem with them taking more time to make the game better if there is another months-long delay. I didn't start panicking/coming up with ridiculous theories about what a disaster Uncharted 4 would be when Uncharted 4 ended up repeatedly delayed, and you know what? UC4 turned out to be a pretty darned good game.

[deuce985]

Are you having a stroke? How could pre-orders for a product be a bad way to gauge interest in that product? The reason they do pre-orders well in advance is because it works out very well for them financially.

 

Well, I mean, pre-order for BF1 didn't go up until right at/before their very first gameplay reveal. About 6 months or so before release? Bioware said pre-order CE and all that jazz getting revealed this fall with the gameplay. So not really all that different to how even EA handled their biggest franchise in Battlefield.

 

You can pre-order Mass Effect now on places like Amazon but it has pending date/box art because nothing is official. I don't really see where this argument is going. The retail just switches your order over when everything does become official. Only difference between BF1 and ME:A is ME was revealed years ago compared to BF1 not existing until recently which is why you couldn't pre-order that game earlier.

 

https://www.amazon.c...ffect andromeda

[Killroy]

Well, I mean, pre-order for BF1 didn't go up until right at/before their very first gameplay reveal. About 6 months or so before release? Bioware said pre-order CE and all that jazz getting revealed this fall with the gameplay. So not really all that different to how even EA handled their biggest franchise in Battlefield.

 

You can pre-order Mass Effect now on places like Amazon but it has pending date/box art because nothing is official. I don't really see where this argument is going. The retail just switches your order over when everything does become official.

 

https://www.amazon.c...ffect andromeda

 

I was getting bothered to pre-order the next Battlefield game at GameStop before it even had a title. I still can't pre-order MEA at my local GameStop(I checked last week). 

[deuce985]

I was getting bothered to pre-order the next Battlefield game at GameStop before it even had a title. I still can't pre-order MEA at my local GameStop(I checked last week). 

 

Well, it's readily available online so I don't think your argument holds up that well. Amazon is the biggest retailer online and has the biggest flood of video game purchases especially recently when they implemented the 20% off all new games just by having Prime. People flood there now because every new game is only $48 in the US if you have Prime plus guaranteed to receive it on release day. It also applies to CEs and that's why Amazon/Best Buy get the most of these because both retails have special gamer discounts through Prime and GCU.

 

If people wanted to order ME:A they would've found a retail to do it at especially since online is more convenient for most people anyway.

[Cloninator]

Heed my words.  It's going to be released in May or June, and their line is going to be that this doesn't actually constitute another delay.  May and most of June are still spring, and if you define "early 2017" as the "first half of 2017," then they're covered.

[Addictress]

At some point you have to ship the game. You can't keep delaying it.

Wasn't Final Fantasy 15 delayed for like a decade? I think we are just spoiled. Not that I don't feel the same way, but I must acknowledge the cold hard reality of just how slowly other famous franchises take to roll out installments.