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[PillingPower]

Does anyone know of any instance where the Darkspawn used or were influenced by Red Lyrium? I can't think of any. In fact, the only consequence I can think of for the Darkspawn in DA:Inquisition is that the distraction of the Grey Warden order in the south would be likely to enable them to spread more easily above ground. 

[skuid]

Isn't Corypheus influenced by Red Lyrium?

[PillingPower]

Sure, but apart from him - Corypheus hardly seems to see himself as a Darkspawn anyway and doesn't seem to command any.

[Gervaise]

Darkspawn aren't affected by red lyrium which theoretically means they should be able to use it without adverse effects other people experience.   Red lyrium is blighted lyrium so it is really darkspawn lyrium.     If there were no archdemons around singing to them, then possibly they would be attracted to red lyrium in much the same way but the song of the archdemon is much stronger than the pull of the red lyrium.    

 

What is never really explained in game is why they are not still being attracted to Corypheus.   In Legacy the reason there are darkspawn in the prison complex is that they have been drawn there by him and then become trapped.    When Corypheus starts sending out a false calling to trick the Wardens, you think this would do the same to darkspawn, since the Calling is the song of the archdemon, so the false Calling mimics this.   Whilst we do encounter them in isolated places on the surface, this is explained in game by the activities of the Venatori, not the fact that they are being drawn to the surface by Corypheus.      So apparently Corypheus can control the nature of this Calling so it doesn't attract darkspawn?

 

Probably red lyrium would not given any additional advantages to darkspawn that they do not already possess.    Red lyrium makes warriors stronger and more resistant to damage but darkspawn are already stronger than their surface counterparts.   For example ogres are far more powerful than qunari.    Darkspawn mages already draw on a source of magical power that is not the Fade, just as archdemons do, so red lyrium might not enhance their abilities greatly either.   Corypheus was already a powerful Magister before his transformation into darkspawn, so I'm not sure quite how much additional benefit he got from red lyrium.     I think mostly it was the use he could put it to in helping control the Wardens and creating his red lyrium dragon that were its chief benefits to him, plus his ability to levitate mountains and buildings, which was something that the residual affects of red lyrium allowed on a much more limited scale in DA2 in the haunted mansion.    However, the presence of the Breach may also have been aiding his powers and so without it, such levitation would not have been possible even with red lyrium.

[Secret Rare]

@Gervaise.

Darkspawns should be able to use red lyrium if only they weren't so stupid to begin with.

These goblins need 400 years to reach an old god because they are too stupid to locate it.

Corypheus calling affect darkspawns,in Legacy there were many darkspawns attracted by him while che was still imprisoned,in DAI despite the Nightmare help
he wasn't able to rise an army of darkspawns because Gaider said so.....

[thats1evildude]

Since darkspawn derive their magic from the Blight, lyrium - red or otherwise - likely has no benefit for them.

[PillingPower]

Wouldn't red lyrium corrupt other creatures faster than 'normal' blight methods? Intelligent Darkspawn could use that, I'd have thought. Then again, I suppose they tend to be as thick as mince.

 

In truth, I'd forgotten that Corypheus was attracting Darkspawn like a beacon in prison. Perhaps it was thought best to leave the Darkspawn mostly out of DA: Inquisiiton, so as to provide different antagonists, even though logically there would be more drawn to the surface (and fewer Grey Wardens to stop them).