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[OdanUrr]

[QueenPurpleScrap]

I enjoyed lurking on these forums. First, I was mostly looking for answers to questions but then I was drawn in, seduced by, debates on lore and characters. Even *gasp* the romances. I have yet to play ME1, 2, or 3, but I still plan to do so. Thankfully, much of the information Bioware plans to discard (have they updated their help section yet? or do they still point to the forums for answers? yeah, yeah, a little snark) is being copied elsewhere. Thank you Fexelea! 

 

I made my own posts debating issues and positing theories. I wrote my own, probably extremely unread, expectations/hopes for and then a critique of DAI. I started writing fanfic. I am very sorry to see these forums and all the useful information, passionate debates, as well as humorous interjections being tossed to the curb like an unwelcome houseguest. Frankly, the fans deserve better. Enough said on that, it is time to say goodbye and may everybody find a place to call home. I have set up accounts on several forums under the username, Norstaera. I don't know, as yet, which will become my most frequented site(s), but here are all the links for those of you still searching:  http://fextralife.com/forums/,  http://vroomvroom.freeforums.net/,  https://realdragonagefans.forums.net/, http://bsn.boards.net/, https://the-Refuge.net/  and  http://biowaresocial...ork.boards.net/.

 

Fextralife update progress and post-read-only information

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Fexelea, on 25 Aug 2016 - 1:01 PM, said:

Updating everyone here:

 

I have fully imported Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effec 1, Dragon Age Inquisition, Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age Keep forums to here:

 

http://fextralife.co...5/bioware-games

 

You can continue to post in any topics outside of the archived subforums. All locked topics are re-opened.

 

Still working:

Mass Effect 2 is 70% done,

Mass Effect 3 50% done.

 

I will also Import

Dragon Age 2, all of the legacy games and, if I can make it in time, off-topic.

 

When the forum closes, you can still claim your account by PMing me - if not via here via answers.ea.com (find Fexelea, log in with bioware credentials)

 

Please help me leave breadcrumbs to the opened threads in the soon-to-be-locked threads here, so people may find their way!

 

 

For their final curtain call and without further meanderings, I present my Inquisitors:

 

My Champions:

and my Wardens:

 

 

Okay, they said goodbye elsewhere, but since this is the official goodbye thread . . . . . 

 Farewell, one and all    

 

[Condescending Dogma]

Farewell to all.  While the core community will maintain its means of communication outside of the wonderful alternatives suggested by Bioware (Twitter and Facebook, lolololololol), the decision to shut down these forums is just a sign of things to come across the industry.  It's a shame it has come to this, but at least we were all around to see it through to the end.

[Hrungr]

Wow...

 

Last day.

 

 

Even though I think most of the regulars have successfully migrated to other boards, it's still feels... profoundly sad to see this place shutting down.

 

But I did want to say thank you to BioWare for creating some of the very best games out there and a community I wanted to help support. And to all my fellow BSNers out there, thank you... doesn't seem enough for all your support, and all the effort everyone has put in building our new homes.

 

Farewell! 

 

 

Spoiler

[LL Siha]

[BSNers], you're an interesting species. An interesting mix. You're capable of such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you're not. See, in all our searching, the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness bearable, is each other.

 

-Contact 1997

 

See you all on bsn.boards.net and Andromeda! 

 

 

 

...I may have just drifted passed Andromeda. Bye guys. 

[Ottemis]

If anyone needs me, I'm a google away. Bubaai all, it's been grand.

[SofaJockey]

A time to end.

 

Stealing from better words written another day:

 

The closure news was a shock, I was quite cross.

But the response of the community in a 'down period' between games has been pretty much amazing: 

• 8 forums were created, extended or spruced up, most successfully.
• Hundreds of people joined forums (some several times over), even BioWare devs have been seen lurking.
• Many thousands of posts have been scraped and thousands of posts have been posted anew.
• The community were invited to head off to Twitter and Reddit, but in the main they've stood up for the long-form forum concept.
• The community is as united and 'together' as I've seen it in ages.

Four weeks ago, none of this was expected or announced. 

Few of us welcomed the news, but the effort to keep that which is good, has been remarkable.

 

Thanks for the journey so far.

If you put your mind to it, nothing is impossible.

 

[bboynexus]

I've not always been the biggest fan of BSN. I very clearly remember what it was like here when Mass Effect 3 was released and the toxicity was almost unprecedented. This place hasn't always been a shining example of kindness and civility. Regardless, the deletion of so much excellent information and insight is a great loss that saddens me. I'm a huge Mass Effect fan and the forum was an invaluable resource for the eBook I put together nearly five years ago. I was hoping to use it again for a future iteration, but that no longer seems possible. Anyway, I suppose I'll head over to one or two of the new forums. BSN Unofficial and Fextralife, perhaps.

 

It's been a good ride. Farewell and into the inevitable.

[Kinom001]

I'll see everybody somewhere else and if I don't, well, you've all of you been entertaining as hell to the end...

 

[MilaBanilla]

Man, last day huh?

 

I will miss the discussions, speculations, the excitement and all that jazz.

 

Thank you Bioware and all the BSN-ers

It was a good ride.

I hope everyone takes care and keep being awesome 

 

[docsteely]

I really hate long farewells. Goodbye, it's been (mostly) a pleasure.

[Lynroy: Final Edition]

Just remember to

[Vhenan Sequitur]

The end? Poppycock! Keep your seats folks. I've heard there's a secret stinger scene after the credits.

 

 

I'll miss you, BSNers. Stay classy.

[CrutchCricket]

So, this is it, eh?

Last one out close the light, fellas.

 

This post was made in another thread. But it prompts what I want to say so well I decided to include it.

 

This is indeed it. This freakshow has been my internet home for five years through good or bad. When I left, I always came back, through good times and bad. Never before had I integrated into an online community like this and I didn't think I would again. But I jumped at the opportunity to help out with http://bsn.boards.net/ because I believe a place like this is necessary. A place for fans and critics alike, a place to support but also to give feedback, whether it is wanted or not, because it is needed. Because as long as even one fan cares about the games, about the stories, about the characters, they deserve to be heard, and they deserve to be among friends. I hope that wherever each of us goes we carry these ideals, about this company and any other and that when it is time to speak up you will do so together. And you will be heard.

 

As for this place, I suspected this would be my final reaction when they first announced the closure but I wasn't sure. I've gone from amused, to indifferent to nostalgic, but mostly I've just been going about my business, RL life stuff and helping out here. But now, the end is finally upon us.

And so I post only this. Some, maybe most won't get it. But for those that do get it, it says everything (sorry for the spoilers):

 

 

Thank you.

 

-CrutchCricket

[sandalisthemaker]

MAY YOU REST IN FABULOUS PEACE, BSN

[LinksOcarina]

As I said elsewhere, this is not the end, this is just a new beginning.

 

One that maybe, we all did need, whether we admit it or not.

 

I am confident I will see you all again,  so farewell, and into the inevitable.

 

[BansheeOwnage]

Well, this is it...    I’m not great at getting my thoughts in order at the best of times, so this may be a bit disjointed, sorry

 

Some of you may recognize me, some will not. I joined these forums in the aftermath of ME3’s release, which many of you will remember vividly. My brother showed me the Indoctrination Theory megathread (although it wasn’t a megathread yet) and after a while, I started posting. In the beginning, that was almost the only place I posted here. More than 4000 of my posts were from that series of megathreads, as it happens, which then-Community Manager Chris Priestly was so kind to openly mock me for    People being passionate fans and being social on a so-called social network? Preposterous.

 

After discussing IT suddenly became ban-worthy (Bioware did a complete 180 on their stance about it, no surprise there really) I was banished like the rest of the ITers. I stayed in exile until a couple of months after DA:I was released. During that time, I played DA:O and DA2 on the recommendation of pretty much everyone, and fell in love with Dragon Age (and hoped it wouldn’t meet Mass Effect’s fate), and my girlfriend kept me up-to-date on DA:I’s pre-release info, using these forums.

 

Since then, I’ve greatly enjoyed reading and participating in some truly impressive discussions about lore, characters, gameplay, and... hair But it went a lot deeper than that. These discussions overlapped with things in the real world and made people think about them, too. Politics, equality, history, religion, social philosophies, physics, metaphysics... It’s one of the great things about games – they can be relevant to the real world, they can mean something.

 

I'll spoiler this so I don't make a wall of text ranting about the closure.

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The passion in these discussions is one of the things that made this place great and unique. It’s something that just isn’t present to nearly the same extent on any of the sites Bioware has suggested we use instead. It’s also, in my opinion, not something that’s possible anywhere except a forum, and an official forum has obvious advantages.

 

The same principle also applies to feedback, which is sadly not something it seems like Bioware cares to hear anymore. Not after closing the feedback section, and definitely not after closing their entire forum. The nature of a forum and its utility as a place for the passionate and extensively well-thought-out discussion that I mentioned is precisely what enables the feedback here to be so convincing and legitimate. We cannot possibly express ourselves properly in 140 characters on Twitter, which is the place where you’re most likely to be heard by the people who need the feedback. We’ll sound like petty, whining complainers instead of passionate fans who’ve written virtual essays on what they should keep, and what needs improvement. I know. I’ve tried. I had to write multiple tweets to even somewhat explain to Mike Laidlaw what was wrong with the hair in DA:I. Even something universally agreed-upon took that much before Bioware had to admit that they might have screwed up. And though part of that was simply hubris, most of it was because of the format they now want us to use. If they actually bothered to read just one of the topics someone made here, they’d surely have been convinced. Past that, I’ve simply been ignored on Twitter, so there’s that. Unless you have a million followers, your opinion is valueless, so good luck!

 

If Bioware no longer cares for feedback to improve their games, whether that be to make fans happy, for integrity’s sake, or simply to have a better reputation and sell more copies, then I worry greatly for their future titles. That, combined with the kick in the face that is this closure, means there are many who will at worst give up on Bioware completely, and at best be much less enthusiastic about their upcoming games.

 

Let’s talk about that...

 

It’s been said before. There is a wealth of knowledge here. A wealth of easy-to-find knowledge that players can find to improve their experiences, or sometimes to find fixes for game-breaking bugs that would have otherwise meant they’d have no experiences at all. Though most of this will be saved elsewhere, it’s still a blow, because of accessibility. And we have only ourselves to thank for what will be saved. Bioware doesn’t understand the value of it, or they would leave the site in a read-only state indefinitely. After all, “It wasn’t a financial decision”.

 

And past the more objective drawbacks, there are the emotional ones. Disintegrating our healthy central community, and for what, exactly? That’s a good question, and we may never know the true reasons. But there are no good ones. None that would excuse such callous treatment of your most passionate fans and taking away their place to congregate and discuss what you’ve made, which is sort of like a monument in a way. And let’s not kid ourselves. We are the purpose of this forum. Each other. It was always primarily a place for people with the same interests to hang out. Who cares about dev interaction? Yes, it’s nice when it happens (sometimes). Yes, it’s good to think they’re actually reading what we have to say (most importantly to me). But you don’t just shut something down when it can still serve its primary function. It’s absurd.

 

But I’ve railed on too long about that. This is the place for goodbyes to the community. And you know what? I love this community overall. There will be trolls, idiots, and jerks everywhere, but they aren’t nearly so common here as basically everywhere else I’ve seen on the internet. The contrast is startling. Here, there are multitudes of kind, passionate, polite posters ready to welcome you into sharing a discussion. You guys have made me feel safe. That may sound melodramatic, but it’s true. You can just be who you are here, and no one cares. As a member of the LGBT community, heck, even as a woman, that’s important to me, and is a respite from other places. This place has sort of become an online “home” for me.

 

So thank you, people, for being awesome. Yes, you. And you. I won’t list any names as some do, because I’ll inevitably leave someone out and feel bad, and because there are just too many. Even the people who I disagreed with, as long as you weren't being jerks, you kept the discussions going. Thanks for making all of the great talks we’ve had, thanks for accepting me, and thanks for putting up with my silly reaction pictures

 

This is the worst part, but farewell to those who will not follow us to a new forum. I will miss you, and I wish you all the best. I hope we will meet again someday.

 

And to everyone: You’ve done the forum proud holding the line this last month. Well done, and thanks for staying to the bitter end. Together.

 

 

This closure has brought us pain, and suffering... and loss. But it’s also brought us together – as fans, allies, friends. That can’t be taken, or destroyed.

 

This is Banshee, signing off.

[Lynroy: Final Edition]

Well said.

[The Hierophant]

Bye bye.

 

 

[ModernAcademic]

[Vhenan Sequitur]

I nearly forgot... It wouldn't be a proper forum closing without our old friend to see us off.

[Nefla]

Well guys, we've had a good ride. I'll be uncharacteristically brief and just say that I'll miss talking (and sometimes arguing) with you all. This forum has felt like home for the past 6 years and even when the games disappointed me, the community was always there to inspire me, make me laugh, make me consider something I hadn't before. I've chosen not to join one of the replacement forums and not to buy BioWare's future titles but who knows? If ME:A and other future BioWare games manage to defy my expectations and be fantastic and I somehow hear about it without a forum, you guys won't have to worry about finding me. I'll find you and once again bury everyone in explosions of text . The more likely scenario is that none of that will happen and this will be the last time we see each other BSN so from the bottom of my heart "I should go..."

[Steelcan]

[voteDC]

I nearly forgot... It wouldn't be a proper forum closing without our old friend to see us off.

What an epic final boss he was.

Never again will I experience such a hard fought battle.

[mjb203]

Bye, Felicia