The offical survived thread
#251
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:27
Felt great!
#252
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:30
#253
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:32
#254
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:37
#255
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:38
#256
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:42
SithLordExarKun wrote...
Grunt died in first attempt, reloaded and selected someone else to live and voila! Everyone lived.
just curious. how did he die? good to know since im now playing my 2nd playthough and intend to make different choices.
#257
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:46
#258
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:47
- Jack and Zaeed not loyal
- everyone survived (crew + squadmates)
Tech: Tali
Team 2: Miranda
Biotic: Samara
Distraction Team: Miranda
Escort: Jacob
final squad: Samara + Miranda
#259
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:50
Anastassia wrote...
mcsupersport wrote...
He died defending the second door, the one after you pass with the biotic in the bugs. Legion did the tube/door run and made it fine. Mordin died during the final battle with the "reaper baby" at the end. I don't know how he died, or why, just saw his corpse on the ground as we were heading to the Normandy.
That happened to me too, so my second playthrough I sent him with the crew back to the Normandy.
hahaha exactly wat i did too! Mordin died mysteriously while defending the door, so I got rid of him(to keep him alive) by asking him to escort the kidnapped crew... not much use for a biologist.
#260
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:52
#261
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 12:55
Tech: Legion
Team 2: Jacob
Biotic: Samara
Distraction Team: Jacob
Escort: Thane
Final squad: Tali and Miranda
It was a great game and so worth the time I put into it.
#262
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 01:07
Legion: Crawl through pipe
Miranda: Lead second team
and took Garrus (LI) and Samara with me then
Samara: Biotic field and
Miranda leading the second team with
Grunt: Escorting the crew back
Finally I took Garrus and Samara to the final fight.
I lost Mordin, who died holding the door.
The second time I had Tali through the pipe, Garrus leading the team, then sent them back with grunt and had Jack as the Biotic with Miranda leading the team. Mordin and Zaeed accompanied me througout since I wanted to keep and eye on Mordin. Everyone survived.
The third time I had Garrus through the pipe, Grunt leading the team. I took Miranda and Jacob with me . Then Miranda held the biotic field while the crew had to go back without help and Legion led the second team. I took Grunt and Samara with me. Then I took Miranda and Jacob with me to final boss. The crew died, as well as Garrus (closing the door), Grunt (because Miranda couldn't hold the door), and somebody else that I can't remember. That must be the worst you can do with full upgrades and loyalty.
For the next playthrough I'm going to try for the worst ending as an insanity run. I would also like to try no upgrades but full loyalty and vice versa.
#263
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 01:09
Tech: Legion
Team 2: Garrus
Biotic: Samara
Distraction Team: Garrus
Escort: Jacob
Final Squad: Miranda and Mordin
#264
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 01:17
are you serious ?Kitamura Koh wrote...
Just finished up the game and I made it though with everyone + crew alive and well.
Tech: Legion
#265
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 01:18
Mikka-chan wrote...
Hm. After another play-through, I'm going to have to go through this and figure out who gets who killed and who can be disloyal and still live. It seems like a fun little game. /g
First thoughts are that you need your ship upgraded- the upgrades given to you by Tali, Garrus, and Jacob (...at least, I think the one is given to you by Jacob?... shoot, I mean the shield/beams/hull stuff, or maybe it was by Miranda... or maybe there were four...). Med bay, probes, fuel don't matter (although they don't hurt). Some squad-mates have special upgrades just for them: upgrading Jack's implants and Mordin's omnitool seem necessary to make sure they won't randomly drop seems good. I'm not sure where, say, Grunt and Legion's Weapons fit in to this- are they required, or not? Anyone check?
(If anyone reading this has more information or can correct me, let me know!.)
Vents can be done by a loyal Tali or loyal Legion. Anyone attempt a non-loyal Tali? All others reported so far (Thane, Jacob) appear to get a head-shot, including a non-loyal Legion... and someone reported losing a loyal Legion without his weapon, but wasn't sure if it was due to lack of weapon or a bad choice in Strike Team A.
Strike Team Leader can be a loyal Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob. Jack apparently gets a headshot, and it seems is Samara is chosen you may lose Legion (Tali as well?- not certain) if he's in the vents (or maybe if he's in the party?), and you may lose her. Tali does not lead well, but I'm not sure if it's her who dies, the one in the tunnels, or someone in the team. Reports of Zaeed getting Legion killed, but not sure if it's Legion in the tunnels or Legion in the team.
Biotic Protector seems like they must not only be loyal, but also be powerful, or you'll end up with a member dragged off. Jacob doesn't have the juice, and apparently Jack without implants can fail as does a non-loyal Samara. Samara who is loyal will succeed. Jack who is loyal with implants is probably a 'will' as well, but I'm not 100% positive (it seems like she would have to be, though). Also, wonder about That Secret Squad Member.
Crew Member Guard can apparently be a lot of people, as long as they're loyal. Thread reports it's been done by a loyal Thane, loyal Grunt, loyal Moridan with omnitool (lost by someone without it), loyal Jack, loyal Jacob, loyal Zaeed, loyal Tali, loyal Samara (I think we're like, only missing someone reporting on Miranda at this point XD)... has anyone sent a non-loyal member and had them fail, and if so, was that member missing an upgrade?
Division Team Leader seems similar to Strike Team Leader. I wonder if choosing the same person twice might put a bit too much pressure on them, although it seems you can choose Garrus for both fine. Miranda, Jacob, and Garrus all seem to succeed. This seems to be a place where you can lose someone whether they are loyal or not if you don't have a good team-leader, as well as losing the team-leader if they're just not good. All sorts of reports of people dying here- dead team-leader Grunt, dead team-member Jack, dead-team member Mordin (apparently, Samara is *really* not a good team leader)... yadda ye.
Put in an easier format, this assumes that the member is loyal and has any upgrades specific to them (paticularly the Legion rifle for Vents and the Jack implants for Biotic):
Vent Crawler: YAY- Legion, Tali; NAY- Jacob, Thane, Grunt, Garrus (...probably all others (check Moridin, but probably not))
Strike Team Leader: YAY: Garrus, Jacob, Miranda; NAY- Tali, Jack, Samara, Zaeed (probably most others (?): this team leader may also have some influence on whether the vent cat survives)
Biotic Bioticer (..): YAY- Samara, Jack; NAY- Jacob (probably all others save maybe M*)
Crew Escorter: YAY- Anyone loyal, apparently (Tali, Jacob, Thane, Moridan, Grunt, Zaeed, Jack all confirmed); NAY- Someone not loyal? (M*? Maybe Legion?)
Diversion Team Leader: YAY- Jacob, Miranda, Garrus; NAY- Grunt, Jack, Tali, Thane; Mixed Reports on Zaeed, but probably a NAY
If you don't have your ship upgraded fully, you can lose someone at basically random when the ship is hit. If you take too long on the last boss, you can end up losing any squadmate (including Commander). Another site stated you could lose a non-loyal squad-mate in your final team, as well (and someone here reported losing a non-loyal Miranda in the final battle). I wonder if you could also lose a squad-mate if you brought two that don't get along: I made Jacob and Miranda my team twice, for instance, and they were running after each other like one might expect. But what if you brought Legion and Tali and hadn't convinced them to get along? That's speculation, though. Another thought is the shot in the stomach that one of the team leaders gets: I wonder if that might lead to complications if you don't have Moridon around.
The top dead squad-members (besides 'bad choices ala GRUNT IS TEH BEST HACKER!!!' (actually, I don't think anyone did that, so, um, hm) seem to be Legion and Mordan (...I cannot spell his name consistently, not even consistently wrong) if they lack upgrades, and Miranda if you lack her loyalty.
Who you need the loyalty of seems pretty simple: either Legion or Tali, one of Garrus/Miranda/Jacob, and either Jack or Samara. If you want to rescue the Crew, you need any other person- for safety measures, you might as well make it another of the Garrus/Miranda/Jacob crew. You could, of course, have Tali/Legion escort the crew back (assuming that Legion can do that successfully- no reports one way or the other), but that means that as you'll have that G/M/J doing the Distraction deal and a member off escorting, you'll go in to the final battle with only S/J loyal, and you'll lose the other squad member. Probably.
...Again, this is just assumptions and me trying to put information together that people have stated so far in the thread. If I got it wrong/you have more information, let me know!
Your an angel thank you for this =). If only I could send you a box of chocolates, a card saying your a life saver or even your the best? Haha well thank you again!
#266
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 01:27
tennyochan wrote...
are you serious ?Kitamura Koh wrote...
Just finished up the game and I made it though with everyone + crew alive and well.
Tech: Legionlegion died in the vents for me. maybe it was the other team members?
Nope both Legion and Tali are doable for the vent mission, I used both (in 2 playthroughs) and both survived. They are the logical choices anyway. Maybe I'll try using Grunt to do the vents next time! hahaha, he'll probably get himself stuck and roasted!
#267
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 01:58
Thank you for your lengthy postMikka-chan wrote...
Vents can be done by a loyal Tali or loyal Legion. and someone reported losing a loyal Legion without his weapon, but wasn't sure if it was due to lack of weapon or a bad choice in Strike Team A.
Strike Team Leader can be a loyal Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob.
Samara is chosen you may lose Legion (Tali as well?- not certain)
I had a loyal legion and upgraded sniper rifle, venture into the vents. The Team Leader was a loyal Samara. Samara is chosen you WILL lose Legion.
Modifié par tennyochan, 31 janvier 2010 - 01:59 .
#268
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 02:16
Next run-through - (After going through ME1 again and getting my FemShep Renegade Adept back to level 60 for a nice bonus), a 'disaster' run, where maybe nobody survives, or only Shep. XD
#269
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 04:56
#270
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 05:13
Now couple days of rest , then re-do on regenade .
#271
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 05:14
#272
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 05:19
#273
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 05:22
I figured he's a grizzled veteran and causes all sorts of havoc (perfect for a distraction) but I guess I figured wrong.
Modifié par LothAintLucky, 31 janvier 2010 - 05:24 .
#274
Guest_Malcolm Theory_*
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 05:22
Guest_Malcolm Theory_*
No retries.
Modifié par Malcolm Theory, 31 janvier 2010 - 05:24 .
#275
Posté 31 janvier 2010 - 05:43
Vent - Thane
Biotic - Samara
Squad Leader (both times)- Miranda
Final Squad - Miranda and Garrus
Thane took one in the face trying to close the door. Apart from that everyone survived! Bit gutted he died.
Modifié par physcodude, 31 janvier 2010 - 05:44 .





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