446 réponses à ce sujet

[NvVanity]

I'm trying to figure out how to get through it with a nonloyal Zaeed. Is it possible? I brought him along for everything and he died at the end, I left him with the others to hold the door and he dies. I don't suppose telling him to escort the survivors is a good idea?

[DrDoom6]

Everyone Survived:



Tech: Legion

Biotic: Samra

Squad Leader Both Times: Garrus

Escort: Jacob



Rolled with Jack and Grunt.

[granattomten]

I survived it. Lost Grunt and Mordin, though. But I'll be playing this game again.

[GreenBulet]

the crew died and mordin kaeed and thorne died in the squad:(

took 24hrs 15mins

[DarthCaine]

Everyone survived, even the crew

Tech Specialist: Legion
First team leader: Miranda

Biotic specialist: Jack
Second Team leader: Garrus
Escort: Mordin

Took me 35 hours to complete every mission

Modifié par DarthCaine, 31 janvier 2010 - 06:48 .

[aeetos21]

First playthrough I lost Mordin and Thane, second playthrough everybody but half the crew survived, this one? Maybe everybody - not sure yet.

[mosdefinition]

my problem is mordin was loyal and didnt pick him to do anything yet he still died was isuppose to have him do something

i thought i made every right decision to legion doing tech garrus leading both team sammara as the biotic and zaeed taking the crew back to the ship

it makes me think that who lives and dies was random unless i forgot to upgrade something for mordin

Modifié par mosdefinition, 31 janvier 2010 - 06:49 .

[Mikka-chan]

Thank you for the thank yous, Tennyochan and Zazally! I'm glad the post helped! (And for the record, I very much approve of milk chocolate, but thank yous in the forums work just as well. )

As there's been a bit more information posted, I can make a few updates on who must take each part if you want people to survive. If you want death and destruction, there's still some testing to be done.



Vent: Loyal Legion (his upgraded gun is likely necessary; could use an attempt without the gun but with a good Strike Leader) or Loyal Tali will succeed. All other team members (loyal) have been tried in thread with no success reports, as has non-loyal Legion. Need conformation that a non-loyal Tali will also fail, but I'm pretty sure she will. Bad choice seems to lead to the tunnel crawler's death.

Strike Team Leader: A loyal Garrus, Jacob, or Miranda will succeed. (Loyal Thane (and Grunt?) still need to be tested, but it seems fairly likely they'll fail.) All others seem confirmed failures. A bad choice here can either lead to the death of the squad leader or the death of the person in the tunnels, even if the tunnel crawler was a good choice (so far, Jack and Moridan seem to die themselves while Samara seems to lead to the Legion/Tali death).

Biotic: A loyal Samara or a loyal Jack with implants. Not many other people were attempted (Jacob may still be the only one mentioned?), but it seems fairly logical that none of them will work. Need to attempt it with M*. A bad choice here will result in one of the two squad members Shep chooses as part of the main team to be lost. (In my personal opinion, this is one of the more horrific 'lost a team mate' sequences- brr.)

Crew Escort: All loyal members are able to rescue the crew save for Legion and M* (and Miranda- is she even an option?) who have yet to be tested; there's a back and forth on whether crew-individual upgrades are necessary (Moridon's omnitool in particular). If you have a member who keeps dying as a part of the Distraction Team, sending them off here might keep them alive. Actually not sure what will happen for a bad choice (a non-loyal member?)- I assume you lose them and the crew, but no reports.

Distraction Team Leader: Again, loyal Garrus, Jacob, and Miranda. This seems to be the slightly random part: it seems even with a good team leader, you may lose a non-loyal team-member anyway (Tali and Miranda both being reported as loseable, and some have lost a loyal-Moridon as well). Seems logical that with a bad team leader, you might lose even more of your team, including perhaps the squad-leader? I think we need to test this part a bit more: please, if you lost someone here, post who was the squad leader, the loyalty of both squad leader and the lost squad-mate, and if you had given that squad-mate their individual upgrade if they had one.

As for the final squad that Shepard chooses, it seems that a non-loyal member can end up dead (which can lead to Shep's death, as well). It's been reported that taking too long can lead to a loss of almost anything and everyone. Still need to play around with it.

Non-loyal Miranda seems to be a big problem. Anyone have any success in keeping her alive?

Also, remember to upgrade all non-navigation and med-bay ship stuff, or you can lose someone when the ship is hit or when the ship is escaping.

[tausra]

Loyal Zaeed was the distraction leader and he was my only one who died on his squad. Lost Loyal Legion as Vent, bought everything but the sniper rifle for him..

[Vesimir]

Ok. Big problem. When Miranda and Jack argued I sided with Jack. Then I never managed to regain Mirandas loyalty as my Paragon wasn't full. (Paragon little above the last line, Rogue little below the second line.)
Thing is, whatever I do, she dies! And what's even worse, the only saves I have are already on the station. And that means my starting squad is already chosen.

So, any ideas how to make Miranda survive when she's not loyal, you have all ship and companion upgrades except the med-bay upgrade, and when you're starting with Specialist : Legion and Strike team : Garrus? Everyone except Miranda is loyal.

I spent two hours trying various combinations but I'm sick of replaying the same situations. I'll be very grateful for help.

Modifié par Vesimir, 31 janvier 2010 - 07:04 .

[RiouHotaru]

I survived.  Heck, I went out of my way to make sure everyone survived on the first playthrough.  I did cheat a bit by listening to folks about the fact that Mordin seems to keel over easily and took him in my party, but no, winning the game got me 4 achievements at once, I don't think I've ever been prouder of myself over anything.

[Spideywulf]

I had all the upgrades and saved my kidnapped crew but Thane took a headshot and then Jack died to the swarm. The only one I didnt complete the loyalty was with Zaeed.I had sent him back to escort the kidnapped crew to the ship.

[charles shepherd]

Vesimir wrote...

Ok. Big problem. When Miranda and Jack argued I sided with Jack. Then I never managed to regain Mirandas loyalty as my Paragon wasn't full. (Paragon little above the last line, Rogue little below the second line.)
Thing is, whatever I do, she dies! And what's even worse, the only saves I have are already on the station. And that means my starting squad is already chosen.

So, any ideas how to make Miranda survive when she's not loyal, you have all ship and companion upgrades except the med-bay upgrade, and when you're starting with Specialist : Legion and Strike team : Garrus? Everyone except Miranda is loyal.

I spent two hours trying various combinations but I'm sick of replaying the same situations. I'll be very grateful for help.

That's EXACTLY me and my brothers' problem. If you could send her back with the crewmembers it could work, but for W/E reason you cannot. She dies in the last part no matter what, if you take her or leave her to defend the door. Could this be a bug? I mean, my paragon level is at 80 (and apparently my brothers' is full), and this is such a stupid thing to lose Miranda's loyalty for. She's butthurt over something that wasn't even HER fault. It's just odd how you didn't need all that much paragon to diffuse a much more serious conflict (legion/ Tali) and yet something as stupid as Jack/Miranda is impossible to diffuse.

Some people reported that if you talk to all your squadmates, you can then try to talk her out of it. It didn't work for me. Also, try equipping that intimidating helmet and talking to her. Somebody suggested that but it didn't work for me either. This sucks because I really want all my team alive, and it's impossible to keep her alive. I have everything else though.

I'm considering trying to reach the Devs to patch this up.

[Ducarmel]

All my guys survived which is dumb in my opinion. In ME1 we had to make tough choices to save some of our crew.



So basically babysit everybody and they will survive. A cop out in my opinion, determining whether somebody lived or died should of been because we had to sacrifice them for the success of the mission.

[Teknique01]

 For my first and only play-through so far, i had legion as my tech, Miranda as my team leader one and two, grunt as my escort and Samara as my biotic.  Everyone was loyal except Miranda.  Legion took the rocket to the face closing the door, and Miranda died after the final fight when i took her and Jack with me to kill Mr. Schwarzenegger.  I'm not really sure why legion died, i gave him his upgrade, and i cant remember any decisions i would have had to make on his loyalty mission.  I'm pretty sure Miranda died because she wasn't loyal. Jack was my Paramore, and she's the one that caught me on the jump to the ship, not sure if that had any effect. No crew members died, and the professor made it out safe and sound.

[Metopesat]

I didnt loose anyone, all members where loyal, beside Miranda.

[Vesimir]

Metopesat wrote...

I didnt loose anyone, all members where loyal, beside Miranda.

How did you do it?!

[Zebron is reaL]

All loyal, 25 hours, level 27



tech Specialist: Legion

First leader: Garrus

Biotic: Jack

Second leader: Grunt

Escort:Zaeed



One my favorite new squaddies and all around good guy, Grunt was the only one who died

[Chaula]

Lost half the crew cause I wanted to finish jacks loyalty. If I had went one side quest earlier I would have saved them all. I think the Tunnel at the start depends on how fast you open the valves. I sent legion in without an upgraded gun. Although I didn't loose any main people. Figure on my second time round I'll see how few I need loyal I think just two or three will be enough.

[Prolefeed]

. . . Wait, there's a time-limit on going through the Omega 4 Relay? My crew all got kidnapped quite a while ago, but I've been bebopping around the galaxy doing random missions and collecting resources for upgrades. My Shepard's more concerned with making sure she gets the galaxy /saved/ then rushing after her crew. (I kind of want Kelly to die, anyway.)



I'll be mildly disappointed with the dead crew, but does waiting a long time to go through the relay make your squad members more likely to die???? They're the ones I really care about.

[chothug]

Ive explored every planet (100, more or less).

Ive done all the side quests, main quests.

I did everything in the first time play through, and I was done in about 22 hours.

Shorter then the first Mass Effect which took me about 27 hours altogether the first time play through.

But yeah, everybody survived including half of the surviving crew that got captured. 

[ROFLpenguin]

All Loyal, 28 Hours

Vents: Legion
Squad Leader: Garrus (Both Times)
Escort: Grunt
Biotic: Samara

Whole crew saved, no squad members died, and the Illusive Man basically got flipped off in the end. Complete victory for me

[mattp420]

On my first play through everyone lived.



Acquired all ship upgrades except med lab.



All loyalty missions completed keeping in mind what they wanted (hate Zaeed for pursuing his own goals rather than saving the innocents). This Shepard finished about 75%/75% paragon/renegade.



Choices during the suicide missions:



- Legion and Jack (I think) for the cargo hold segment



- Vents: Tali - Quarian tech expert, chosen because of her reputation with my Shepard through both games



- 1st Leader: Garrus - my protégé in ME1, successfully led a team in Omega except did not have complete loyalty of his team. My team trusted my decisions and I so would follow my chosen leader Garrus. Also Garrus did not have a problem with anyone (Grunt confirmed through dialog) while Miranda did.



- My squad 1: Legion - for tech, Miranda - for biotics and my love interest. This team stayed with me through to the end.



- Sent back with crew: Zaeed - no reason really other than the fact that I don't like him (personal not in game) and wanted people I liked watching my back.



- Biotic: Samara - she's an Asari Justicar. Wish I had chosen Jack though because of cinematic



- 2nd team Leader: Garrus - since he did a fine job with the first.



- Speech: Chose mostly upper left option.



Actually, traveling with Samara I may have had Tali and Miranda with me. Sorry I cannot remember the speech options or what armor/weapon/prototype upgrades I had.

[pvt_java]

The Crew Survived, but sadly the majority of my team was killed.

-Garrus, dragged away by the swarm
-Mordin, sniped.
-Miranda, won't miss her.
-Thane, impaled before the start.
-Legion, destroyed by the engine explosion.
-Jack, killed early on.

Now I think I'm going to go back to my save before the Omega 4 Relay. The ship feels so empty after continuing...

Tech Specialist: Mordin
1st Segment Squad: Jacob and Tali
1st Team Leader: Garrus
2nd Segment Squad: Garrus and Tali
2nd Team Leader: Jacob
Biotic: Samara
Final Battle: Jacob and Tali

Modifié par pvt_java, 31 janvier 2010 - 08:27 .