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[Lord Evermore]

What is the point of the "Social Network"?

Projects?  Hmm.  No, I go to Dragon Age Nexus for those.

Forums?  Again no.  The only reason to frequent an official forum is for interaction with the people making the game.  Communication here at this point, is pretty much non-existent. 

Groups?  No.

Albums?  No

Blogs?  No

Polls? No

Basically, we have this whole "Social Network" which is really nothing more than an official board that almost no one frequents.

THIS CAN'T BE WHAT BIOWARE HAD IN MIND.

Attention Bioware.  Think of the "Social Network" as a plant.  If you don't water it, it will die.  The "water" of course is interaction and information with people at Bioware.

Make a decision.  Pull the plug on this site or water the plant.  Letting the plant die isn't a viable strategy.

I know I'm not your boss.  No one on this board complaining about the lack of information is your boss.  But, somewhere along the line, someone who is your boss gave the go ahead for the "Social Network".  They made an investment in it.  You are doing nothing to make that investment worthwhile and that is something I would think someone would notice at some point.  In my experience with EA, not doing your job is the sort of thing that gets people fired in waves.

No one wants that so please water the plant.

[Sloth Of Doom]

So you are saying that the only way the social network is viable is that if someone from bioware occasionally pops in to tell you they love you?

[purplesunset]

I believe mod creators find the "Groups" section very useful.

You might not have interest in it, but I believe many of the fans enjoy the albums.

But I do concede that Dragon Age Nexus is a bit of a blow, since it is in direct competition with the projects section here, and is winning  in terms of ease of use and accesibility. It's much, much harder to find a specific, obscure mod on this site compared to the Nexus because of how the search function is set up here. I think the projects section was a huge reason for making this site in the first place, which is another reason why it's unfortunate.

[wanderon]

I may be wrong but I suspect the "social" part of the Social Network was intended more for peer to peer (gamer to gamer) socialization and not so much Bioware to fans socialization.



No doubt some level of interaction between the company and the membership was expected but I sincerely doubt the concept was the sort of wide open running dialoge between a business and it's customer base that many in this forum seem to expect which seems much more like the relationship between a business and it's board members or shareholders than any relationship between simple consumers and a company.

[bzombo]

Lord Evermore wrote...

What is the point of the "Social Network"?

Projects?  Hmm.  No, I go to Dragon Age Nexus for those.

Forums?  Again no.  The only reason to frequent an official forum is for interaction with the people making the game.  Communication here at this point, is pretty much non-existent. 

Groups?  No.

Albums?  No

Blogs?  No

Polls? No

Basically, we have this whole "Social Network" which is really nothing more than an official board that almost no one frequents.

THIS CAN'T BE WHAT BIOWARE HAD IN MIND.

Attention Bioware.  Think of the "Social Network" as a plant.  If you don't water it, it will die.  The "water" of course is interaction and information with people at Bioware.

Make a decision.  Pull the plug on this site or water the plant.  Letting the plant die isn't a viable strategy.

I know I'm not your boss.  No one on this board complaining about the lack of information is your boss.  But, somewhere along the line, someone who is your boss gave the go ahead for the "Social Network".  They made an investment in it.  You are doing nothing to make that investment worthwhile and that is something I would think someone would notice at some point.  In my experience with EA, not doing your job is the sort of thing that gets people fired in waves.

No one wants that so please water the plant.

well, i only go to da nexus once in a while. i come here mostly. i've found that a lot of people are here, so not sure what you're talking about.

[Frozeal]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

So you are saying that the only way the social network is viable is that if someone from bioware occasionally pops in to tell you they love you?

Basically he wants myspace with dragons

[PunkNouveau13]

It's a social network....so far I've been pretty social, and I enjoy the people I've been social with. I think what they had in mind is the fans of the game can come a talk (socialize) with others about....well anything DA:O or Mass Effect related. So pretty much you're say that talking to other people that enjoy the game as much as you do to be a waste of time and you would rather spend you time talking to the developers, 'picking their brain' as it were, asking them questions. I mean some random interaction with Bioware staff is always great, but I feel that this site is not solely meant to be the middleman between company and consumers. I don't mean to be rude, but you kinda sound like a snob. If you really want to talk to some developers then send them an e-mail. what do you really expect from any gaming social network. Most game social networks are pretty much the same. :-/

[Wesley Wyndam Price]

Frozeal wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

So you are saying that the only way the social network is viable is that if someone from bioware occasionally pops in to tell you they love you?

Basically he wants myspace with dragons

Myspace with dragons would be pretty cool.

I want to add Alistair to my friends list on here

[PunkNouveau13]

Frozeal wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

So you are saying that the only way the social network is viable is that if someone from bioware occasionally pops in to tell you they love you?

Basically he wants myspace with dragons

oooooo that would be pretty cool, as long as they don't try to kill me

[soteria]

Actually, since they created these boards, they've been expanding and improving them pretty much weekly. It seems like there's always new boards popping up. Not sure why you would think they're not paying any attention.

[Mordaedil]

Nexus was only necessary in thebeginning and its continuous existance is costing this site most of it's purpose.



If only the site launched a bit better, maybe there would be no Nexus. I personally loathe the nexus.

[Rolenka]

"epic fail" gets tossed around a lot. I mean, maybe if it crashed all the time or you couldn't log in (intermittent IE issue notwithstanding), then maybe.



I don't know, I never found myself wishing for Video Game Facebook, but I wouldn't what's been built here a failure. In fact I find myself gradually using some of the social networking-style features.

[Eurypterid]

Going to move this to Off Topic. Not really DA:O related.

[KariTR]

Projects

Groups

Blogs (admittedly this section seems generally made up of "help wanted" type posts.

Polls

There's more, just follow the tabs at the top of this page. The ones marked "Projects," "Blogs," "Polls" etc.

[The Chosen Predator]

I don't really get it either to be honest, to me it's confusing, the only thing I do use is the redeem code thing.

[Grimmwor Runeforger]

I am primarily interested in the forums and the projects. I don't have any major complaints about the projects section...however, the forums need some improvements. The forums are not very useful without search functionality. And, before they turned the search off (probably in anticipation of high traffic associated with ME2 release), the search results were always oldest post first and only showed one page of results, so it was difficult to find recent posts related to your query.



Having said that, I would like to add that both Dragon Age and ME2 are the best games I've played in a long, long time...I love both of them.

[Seagloom]

As long as Dragon Age Nexus continues to be a more convenient site to find mods than BSN, I will go there for those. Beyond that, I do not find this network a failure. I find it much easier to peek out of my shell and socialize here, albeit infrequently, compared to the old forums; which was closer to rarely, if ever. Something about the BSN makes it feel lively and welcoming, despite a greater number of what I perceive as problematic posters.

This site has been fun in a way plain message boards are simply not; without the ick factor of Myspace or Facebook. In my eyes the old forums effectively closed on October 13 when BSN went live. I have no interest in going back, and at this stage I doubt it would be an option anyway.

Modifié par Seagloom, 28 janvier 2010 - 08:01 .

[Lord Evermore]

PunkNouveau13 wrote...

It's a social network....so far I've been pretty social, and I enjoy the people I've been social with. I think what they had in mind is the fans of the game can come a talk (socialize) with others about....well anything DA:O or Mass Effect related. So pretty much you're say that talking to other people that enjoy the game as much as you do to be a waste of time and you would rather spend you time talking to the developers, 'picking their brain' as it were, asking them questions. I mean some random interaction with Bioware staff is always great, but I feel that this site is not solely meant to be the middleman between company and consumers. I don't mean to be rude, but you kinda sound like a snob. If you really want to talk to some developers then send them an e-mail. what do you really expect from any gaming social network. Most game social networks are pretty much the same. :-/

I enjoy talking to other people who play the game.  However, I'd rather do that on an "unofficial" site.  Unofficial sites offer a greater degree of freedom to discuss the good and bad aspects of the game including support. 

An official forum is always a tool intended to promote the game.  So, when there are problems, and those problems become complaints, and those complaints become threads, those threads disappear (or get moved to Off Topic!).

The only reason to tolerate that kind of censorship is that the tradeoff must be dev interaction.  Otherwise, I can go someplace else with no dev interaction, still have friends to interact with, and enjoy a greater freedom of discussion.

[PunkNouveau13]

yes I do see your point. hmm, I never really thought of it that way. :-/

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Lord Evermore, I must admit I've made different experiences. From what I've seen, as long as you keep things civil, it's completely okay to say what you don't like about Bioware games. Just keep in mind to avoid swear words, caps lock and all those other misconceptions of good verbal intercourse.

I must also say however that I do not quite comprehend why the old boards moved here, but oh well...

[wanderon]

:shrugs: I've been hanging around "official" Bioware and other IE game sites since the early days of BG and never found ANY of them to abuse their censorship powers.



They do however expect people to be civil and to follow the forum rules and a lot of people would rather not be civil on the internet (or follow any rulkes at all) but I certainly have never seen any attempt to stifle criticism as long as it remains civil and conforms to the rules of the forum.



Inferring that moving this thread to off topic is censorship when the forum it was originally posted in is clearly labeled as a forum for discussing the GAME (not the social site) is a good example of how misleading most complaints that official boards abuse censorship are.

[Lord Evermore]

wanderon wrote...

:shrugs: I've been hanging around "official" Bioware and other IE game sites since the early days of BG and never found ANY of them to abuse their censorship powers.

They do however expect people to be civil and to follow the forum rules and a lot of people would rather not be civil on the internet (or follow any rulkes at all) but I certainly have never seen any attempt to stifle criticism as long as it remains civil and conforms to the rules of the forum.

Inferring that moving this thread to off topic is censorship when the forum it was originally posted in is clearly labeled as a forum for discussing the GAME (not the social site) is a good example of how misleading most complaints that official boards abuse censorship are.

I disagree.

If I start a thread on the "General Discussion" board right now about how one of the developers saved my cat when it got stuck in a tree and I think she is the greatest person in the world, do you think that thread gets moved?

[KnightofPhoenix]

edit" nevermind.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 29 janvier 2010 - 01:59 .

[wanderon]

Lord Evermore wrote...

wanderon wrote...

:shrugs: I've been hanging around "official" Bioware and other IE game sites since the early days of BG and never found ANY of them to abuse their censorship powers.

They do however expect people to be civil and to follow the forum rules and a lot of people would rather not be civil on the internet (or follow any rulkes at all) but I certainly have never seen any attempt to stifle criticism as long as it remains civil and conforms to the rules of the forum.

Inferring that moving this thread to off topic is censorship when the forum it was originally posted in is clearly labeled as a forum for discussing the GAME (not the social site) is a good example of how misleading most complaints that official boards abuse censorship are.

I disagree.

If I start a thread on the "General Discussion" board right now about how one of the developers saved my cat when it got stuck in a tree and I think she is the greatest person in the world, do you think that thread gets moved?

Yes I do - I have in fact SEEN a thread started that was extremely pro dev and was closed by David Gaider almost immediately and the poster told thank you for the support but there are already numerous open threads on the subject you can post your thoughts in.

I can't speak to how things may be with other developers but in my experience with forums for Bioware, Obsidian, Black Isle, and Interplay I have never seen any heavy handed moderation intended to "stifle" criticism.

In fact my experience has been quite the contrary as I have often been been quite annoyed at the amount of pointless negative threads that have been allowed to pervade their forums and often felt a stronger hand in moderating would be a GOOD thing and that they are in fact allowing too much leeway to those who like to play the popular "lets bash _______ on the internet today" game.

[Korvayer]

Lord Evermore wrote...

What is the point of the "Social Network"?

To have a stable, load and functionality tested community hub come release day for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Maker knows it'll need to be able to withstand a whole lot of abuse.