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[Magus_42]

Agree or disagree with the poster, part of the point of this forum is to post feedback that someone from Bioware might happen to see. It's not an attack on you personally if someone doesn't like something that you like, and it's certainly within his rights to tell a business why he was unhappy with their product.

[Time Spiral]

Hey, guys.

I'm usually in the DA:O forums, but am getting pretty hyped about ME2, so I figured I'd jump on over for a bit. But I must say ...

WTF is going on over here?!

So the OP is all rustled up because they chopped some of his favortie features. So he didn't have a very articulate way of expressing himself, and was not very constructive, so what? We're not all badasses of the English language. And constructive criticism is a skill, not a given. My question is this: Why in the hell are there nearly two pages of people from the ME community telling this guy to F-Off?!

I seriously expected a more ... open community than this. Now granted, not all told him to F-Off, some offered a little bit of feed back, but they were the minority here.

I haven't played the game yet, and am very excited to do so. So I don't have much feedback at this point. But, the unlimited ammo change ... doesn't that conflict with the lore? I'm sure they cover this though ...

[Zhijn]

Time Spiral wrote...

Hey, guys.

I'm usually in the DA:O forums, but am getting pretty hyped about ME2, so I figured I'd jump on over for a bit. But I must say ...

WTF is going on over here?!

So the OP is all rustled up because they chopped some of his favortie features. So he didn't have a very articulate way of expressing himself, and was not very constructive, so what? We're not all badasses of the English language. And constructive criticism is a skill, not a given. My question is this: Why in the hell are there nearly two pages of people from the ME community telling this guy to F-Off?!

I seriously expected a more ... open community than this. Now granted, not all told him to F-Off, some offered a little bit of feed back, but they were the minority here.

I haven't played the game yet, and am very excited to do so. So I don't have much feedback at this point. But, the unlimited ammo change ... doesn't that conflict with the lore? I'm sure they cover this though ...

Because his tag is "DisappointedFan117" and clearly just sign'd up to deliver this message.

It gets annoying.

[Wishpig]

Magus_42 wrote...

Agree or disagree with the poster, part of the point of this forum is to post feedback that someone from Bioware might happen to see. It's not an attack on you personally if someone doesn't like something that you like, and it's certainly within his rights to tell a business why he was unhappy with their product.

If a person is offended by a negitive comment or gets upset someone has a diffrent opinion they deserve a good spanking... and not in the pleasent sexual way.

I think what most people are upset about is that if an author doesn't bring anything new to the table they should not make a new thread. There are well over a hundred threads that the author could have posted this in, rather he created his own thread.

It bogs down the forum and buries many intresting or question threads beneath loads of threads which are the same damn thing.

Modifié par Wishpig, 28 janvier 2010 - 10:26 .

[KingDan97]

Time Spiral wrote...

Hey, guys.

I'm usually in the DA:O forums, but am getting pretty hyped about ME2, so I figured I'd jump on over for a bit. But I must say ...

WTF is going on over here?!

So the OP is all rustled up because they chopped some of his favortie features. So he didn't have a very articulate way of expressing himself, and was not very constructive, so what? We're not all badasses of the English language. And constructive criticism is a skill, not a given. My question is this: Why in the hell are there nearly two pages of people from the ME community telling this guy to F-Off?!

I seriously expected a more ... open community than this. Now granted, not all told him to F-Off, some offered a little bit of feed back, but they were the minority here.

I haven't played the game yet, and am very excited to do so. So I don't have much feedback at this point. But, the unlimited ammo change ... doesn't that conflict with the lore? I'm sure they cover this though ...

He was reffering to the infinite shot setups. Where you could basically just rubberband down the right trigger at a door and win.

He wasn't posting constructive criticism, he was whining. Whining about design choices that have been known for quite a few months now. He was complaining because the annoying restrictive inventory is gone and he's complaining because there's not fifty weapons with the same model and feel. He's complaining because things are moving forward and evolving.

He's basically taking a "I want to go back to the middle ages" stance. He said he rented it today, he's had maybe three or four hours with it and he's already making final judgments on it with that little information.

Most importantly, he's come here just to say that he's not buying the game, which is not only arrogant, because Bioware didn't get any money from him so far anyway, but also just makes him look like an ass.

[Faust1979]

I don't like the new ammo system all that much and why does it have to be more realistic? it's a video game plus you have tons of aliens of different kinds it's not all that realistic

[DisappointedFan117]

wow, all this since left for class. I was in a rush when I wrote this ( and yes i did just create this account to voice my opinion) so please excuse my grammar or punctuation. But really i was hoping someone important reads these and would log my complaints however ridiculous. didn't realize i'd hurt a bunch of dumb kids feelings.

[Darth_Shizz]

DisappointedFan117 wrote...

Didn't realize i'd hurt a bunch of dumb kids feelings.

The real problem is;

1) Very few people are likely to care too much about your woes after a wall o' text, especially when there's very little constructive laying in it (whining=/=constructive)

2) For some reason, people keep creating new threads, for what is essentially, the same re-hashed point someone else made 2 seconds before.

3) If you have no intention of buying the game, nor do you have an account at the social site (will you continue to use the site? with that username??). Why on earth would you decide to sign up JUST to tell people that you probably won't talk to again, that you have no interest in making a purchase? Surely you had to realise that this was a stupid idea?

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 29 janvier 2010 - 12:01 .

[-D-C-D-]

Bad times mate.

I'll think about you on putting it into my disc tray for the first time and blasting away the collector scum

Modifié par -D-C-D-, 29 janvier 2010 - 12:03 .

[Orogenic]

DisappointedFan117 wrote...

I can understand making a game a little simpliar toexpand the age group and get more people to play, but this is ridiculous. I've rented Mass Effect 2 and I am exstremly dissappointed. First off, you took away the best parts of Mass effect 1.
Now i have to reload? this is BS. What happened to searching for the best possible weapon of a class from shops to find the one with the coolest name and best stats? And then putting up to three diffirent upgrades on it to make it awesome. I had an assault rifle in the first game that I never had to reload, never overheated and never lost accuracy. It was basically a lazer! It took two playthroughs and a lot of customizing to make it. Now I have to go through the annoying task of scanning every inch of every planet to find resources to upgrade my stuff? I hate it.
(Im not saying that driving around in the Mako on only a kilometer of each planet and finding resources that immdiatelt converted into cash was any better but atleast there were thrasher maws and occasional geth to shoot at)
 I dont even have that much stuff to upgrade, I bet there are under 50 diff weapons in the game now compared to a 1000 from the first. And the same goes with armor, nothing changes for any of my characters. everything always looks the same, it makes the game seem even more linear than the annoying mission system. In the last game I got in fights on the Citadel, now unless its a mission in a hostil zone I can expect nothing. I dont even know what to say about the rest of the game, but it feels like shepard weighs a ton and moving round feels clumbsy and slower than Mass Effect 1.
Maybe its EA's fault, I never liked the games they made. But seriously, you guys need better game testers, maybe some that aren't sheep and actually know what to look for in games.
But I can asure you this, I'm getting back my 5 dollar reservation on this game.

I hear you and understand exactly what you are saying.

You get a solid idea of the game's new target demographic just by reading the responses in this thread.

What can you do?  ME 1 was brilliant... but there are a lot more rabid anklebiters with cash to blow on videogames.  It was purely a business decision to make ME 2 the way it is.

[VanDraegon]

What a colossal waste of someones time. lol

[Darth_Shizz]

Orogenic wrote...


You get a solid idea of the game's new target demographic just by reading the responses in this thread.

What can you do?  ME 1 was brilliant... but there are a lot more rabid anklebiters with cash to blow on videogames.  It was purely a business decision to make ME 2 the way it is.

Excuse me? This thread shouldn't exist, the forum is saturated with them as it is. Having an opinion is fine. Feeling that you're special enough to warrant creating a new thread in which you do nothing but whine in an incredibly childish manner however...not so much.

No, people didn't decide to sit down and discuss the opening post like balanced and free-thinking adults. I'm not entirely sure they should have to in threads like these though.

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 29 janvier 2010 - 12:18 .

[Bryy_Miller]

DisappointedFan117 wrote...

wow, all this since left for class. I was in a rush when I wrote this ( and yes i did just create this account to voice my opinion) so please excuse my grammar or punctuation. But really i was hoping someone important reads these and would log my complaints however ridiculous. didn't realize i'd hurt a bunch of dumb kids feelings.

You hurt nobody's feelings. Everyone is lolling at you. 
A word of advice: hoping someone "important" reads your one complaint thread and then suddenly changes the next game JUST FOR YOU? This never happens.

[MassFrost]

So what I gathered from the OP is that the game is over simplified, yet at the same time he's complaining that he CAN'T have a weapon that is dead-on accurate and never overheats? The ammo system added challenge the game, challenge that was most definitely needed.

[Niorcs]

[eyesofastorm]

Uhm... people complain because a lot of other people are making the same complaints? And then you all justify bashing the people who are complaining because you are tired of reading it?



Don't read it.



Everyone who doesn't like aspects of the game has the right to post their complaints about the game here regardless of whether it has been posted before or not. You think each person who is let down with the way ME2 was designed should have to come up with a new complaint before they let the Dev team know they were disappointed? People, in large part, complain because they hope that their complaints will be heard and changes will be made in the next game. I don't know whether it will work or not, but I can promise that if one, single, solitary person came here and posted 90% of the complaints that we've seen and then everyone else who had those complaints read it and said, "Hey, everything I had to say has already been said, so there's no point," Bioware would certainly find no reason to change their path.



All of these people's complaints are just as valid as the complaints of all of those who complained about things after ME1. Now, if you are among the crowd that is happy with the changes made, then count yourself lucky, enjoy your game, and shut your mouths.



The majority of this thread and the people who have posted in it is pathetic, immature, and mean spirited. You are an example of what is wrong with the gaming community and what has gone wrong with Bioware's community. Grow up.

[Mr.Skar]

Gettin' a little tired of hearing people rag on BioWare/EA for making "business" decisions. A company exists to make money and making better business decisions is part of that. BioWare hasn't become some unrecognizable monstrosity, they still do what they do best. DA:O is evidence of that, same with ME2 for those of us who enjoy it.



On topic, good for you OP. No reason to buy something you won't enjoy.

[trope]

DisappointedFan117 wrote...

I can understand making a game a little simpliar toexpand the age group and get more people to play, but this is ridiculous. I've rented Mass Effect 2 and I am exstremly dissappointed. First off, you took away the best parts of Mass effect 1.
Now i have to reload? this is BS. What happened to searching for the best possible weapon of a class from shops to find the one with the coolest name and best stats? And then putting up to three diffirent upgrades on it to make it awesome. I had an assault rifle in the first game that I never had to reload, never overheated and never lost accuracy. It was basically a lazer! It took two playthroughs and a lot of customizing to make it. Now I have to go through the annoying task of scanning every inch of every planet to find resources to upgrade my stuff? I hate it.
(Im not saying that driving around in the Mako on only a kilometer of each planet and finding resources that immdiatelt converted into cash was any better but atleast there were thrasher maws and occasional geth to shoot at)
 I dont even have that much stuff to upgrade, I bet there are under 50 diff weapons in the game now compared to a 1000 from the first. And the same goes with armor, nothing changes for any of my characters. everything always looks the same, it makes the game seem even more linear than the annoying mission system. In the last game I got in fights on the Citadel, now unless its a mission in a hostil zone I can expect nothing. I dont even know what to say about the rest of the game, but it feels like shepard weighs a ton and moving round feels clumbsy and slower than Mass Effect 1.
Maybe its EA's fault, I never liked the games they made. But seriously, you guys need better game testers, maybe some that aren't sheep and actually know what to look for in games.
But I can asure you this, I'm getting back my 5 dollar reservation on this game.

Great... play something else and go away dick%$&@

[Orogenic]

Darth_Shizz wrote...

Orogenic wrote...


You get a solid idea of the game's new target demographic just by reading the responses in this thread.

What can you do?  ME 1 was brilliant... but there are a lot more rabid anklebiters with cash to blow on videogames.  It was purely a business decision to make ME 2 the way it is.

Excuse me? This thread shouldn't exist, the forum is saturated with them as it is. Having an opinion is fine. Feeling that you're special enough to warrant creating a new thread in which you do nothing but whine in an incredibly childish manner however...not so much.

No, people didn't decide to sit down and discuss the opening post like balanced and free-thinking adults. I'm not entirely sure they should have to in threads like these though.

Thank you "shizz" for providing further support for my position.  Have a nice day.

[Zentrasi]

Combat in the first ME was very simplistic, as stated in the OP. I totally suck at shooters but could easily charge through the game without pause because of the easy combat, which I enjoyed since I was more interested in the story than the fighitng anyway.



Now with ME2 combat feels a lot meatier and is definetly more challenging, for me anyway. Couple of times I've had to slow down and rethink things before charging in like I did in ME1 which has immersed me in those moments even more. So I like it.



Overall I like this new combat system and the fact you have to work at upgrading your tech. I love scanning planets (especially when you find anomolies) for materials to use in upgrades. Someone mentioned earlier that you can't change your crews armour, but that isn't so either. You can but you have to unlock those costumes first by doing certain missions.



I own both games so I liked the fact they changed things up a bit in number 2 as I can now experience both styles of play rather than doing the same type of combat over again.

[DisappointedFan117]

hear you and understand exactly what you are saying.



You get a solid idea of the game's new target demographic just by reading the responses in this thread.



What can you do? ME 1 was brilliant... but there are a lot more rabid anklebiters with cash to blow on videogames. It was purely a business decision to make ME 2 the way it is.



Finally some who understands. he must be over 16 years old.

[DisappointedFan117]

good point Zentrasi, but I'm not 12 so i wont enjoy this game.