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[Addai]

Raiynsong wrote...

tonight I had my first serious bug in game, which crashed me. when i came back into game (luckily I had just saved) Alistair was naked, and initiatied thanking me for taking him to Goldana. We then had the lick the lampost talk. Doing that one with a naked Alistair REALLY adds to the tingle factor :-)

OMG that's hilarious.

[ejoslin]

Occasionally my DLCs will act up, and unfortunately, I finally have a game where I will never be able to access anything about Warden's Keep (which is very upsetting). I think i know which mod caused the conflict and it's now disabled, but still, quite depressing.

[Nonvita]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Yes... there are confirmation.... Melo in his IGN intyerview says about new companions:

"Very
interesting personalities all over again -- it seems that's what we
thrive on, and personally, I really enjoy the party members in
Awakening a lot more. You have everything from foil characters that are
there for comic relief and banter all the way to characters that have
more sexual tension with other party members. It's kind of humorous to
follow their attempts. There's definitely going to be a lot of richness
to the characters you meet. "

Well technically that's not confirming that the PC is able to romance anyone, just that the companions might romance each other. I say that mostly facetiousy... [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]
But, really, I'm trying not to get my hopes up about Anders too much. What if he turns out to not be romanceable for some strange reason? What a tease! Or even worse, if he starts romancing one of the other companions?! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie] I think I may go cry to myself now...

Addai67 wrote...

Raiynsong wrote...

tonight I had my first serious bug in game, which crashed me. when i came back into game (luckily I had just saved) Alistair was naked, and initiatied thanking me for taking him to Goldana. We then had the lick the lampost talk. Doing that one with a naked Alistair REALLY adds to the tingle factor :-)

OMG that's hilarious.

Alistair: Have you ever licked a lamppost in winter?
Me: I've licked my fair share of lampposts and then some.
Alistair: That's... a disturbing mental image you've conjured for me right there...
Me: Really? Because there's nothing disturbing about my mental image right now...

[Sabriana]

Nonvita wrote...


Well technically that's not confirming that the PC is able to romance anyone, just that the companions might romance each other. I say that mostly facetiousy... [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]
But, really, I'm trying not to get my hopes up about Anders too much. What if he turns out to not be romanceable for some strange reason? What a tease! Or even worse, if he starts romancing one of the other companions?! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie] I think I may go cry to myself now...

Oh no. See what you done? Now I have the terrible, terrible flashbacks toward the Haer Daelis frustration. Oh I hope they won't do that again.

That's it. I'll wait, and I'll see if the most compelling character in game is romanceble only by another NPC. If that's so, I'll pass, and play with Zevran some more.
It took me years to get over the Tiefling unfairness.

[Nonvita]

Sabriana wrote...

Oh no. See what you done? Now I have the terrible, terrible flashbacks toward the Haer Daelis frustration. Oh I hope they won't do that again.

That's it. I'll wait, and I'll see if the most compelling character in game is romanceble only by another NPC. If that's so, I'll pass, and play with Zevran some more.
It took me years to get over the Tiefling unfairness.

See, I never could get far into NWN2 because it always seemed really clunky to me, so I haven't experienced the good and bad of those romances. Why on earth would they pull stunts like that?! Please Bioware, I beg of you, do not let it be so!

On another note, I think I have to kill Zevran this playthrough. My HN could never trust someone who tried to kill her after all the treachery she's already gone through. Sometimes I want to yell at her.

[Sialater]

Lust conquers all, Nonvita.

[Sabriana]

Nonvita wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

Oh no. See what you done? Now I have the terrible, terrible flashbacks toward the Haer Daelis frustration. Oh I hope they won't do that again.

That's it. I'll wait, and I'll see if the most compelling character in game is romanceble only by another NPC. If that's so, I'll pass, and play with Zevran some more.
It took me years to get over the Tiefling unfairness.

See, I never could get far into NWN2 because it always seemed really clunky to me, so I haven't experienced the good and bad of those romances. Why on earth would they pull stunts like that?! Please Bioware, I beg of you, do not let it be so!

On another note, I think I have to kill Zevran this playthrough. My HN could never trust someone who tried to kill her after all the treachery she's already gone through. Sometimes I want to yell at her.

Lol, that was actually BG, so you see how far back that bitterness goes.

My HN was the same way, actually, but she decided to give him one chance and one chance only. Of course, her trusted mabari was tasked with keeping a veery close eye on the elf.

However, first battle, she was in a lot of trouble, charging the darkspawn like she always does. (Silly girl, I think she was a bit suicidal).
Zevran dropped everything, charged to her side, and actually beat the Hurlock AND the ogre off her, while paying no heed to the ones who attacked him, so focused was he on saving her. Well, from that point on, things were looking up for both of them

[Sabriana]

Oh look, Twins!!

Modifié par Sabriana, 03 février 2010 - 07:39 .

[Nonvita]

Sialater wrote...



Lust conquers all, Nonvita.

Ah, if that were the case, you'd think I could have my way with Teagann, Ser Gilmore, Duncan, Daveth, etc etc. As it is we get Dairren and Cammen??? It's like the devs knew they were playing some cruel joke on us...

Sabriana wrote...
Lol, that was actually BG, so you see how far back that bitterness goes.

My HN was the same way, actually, but she decided to give him one chance and one chance only. Of course, her trusted mabari was tasked with keeping a veery close eye on the elf.

However, first battle, she was in a lot of trouble, charging the darkspawn like she always does. (Silly girl, I think she was a bit suicidal).
Zevran dropped everything, charged to her side, and actually beat the Hurlock AND the ogre off her, while paying no heed to the ones who attacked him, so focused was he on saving her. Well, from that point on, things were looking up for both of them

My bad. NWN was the first Bioware game I played, before that I didn't even have a computer capable of playing games... And, just to save you the trouble of saying it, I promise I will play the BG games as soon as I get time. I'm rather excited for it, needless to say! But dang, that really sounds like it stings. Never again, Bioware, never again!!


As for Zevran, I really want to spare him. I keep trying to create some excuse why she would spare him, but it's just soo against her character. This girl seriously wants vengeance and would never spare someone working for Loghain. Whether or not Zevran actually cared about the job is irrelevant- if he was dumb enough to take the contract (and moreso, if he was so weak as to fail at it), then he doesn't deserve any special treatment.

And this is even after restarting her because she was more terrible before...

[Raiynsong]

hey something one of you said got me thinking.... Is there some AI script where Zevran always helped the PC out if he's interested? because I noticed last night that Zevran almost always found the mob I was hitting and helped me kill it (even when I was trying to take out archers away from the main group)

It was a great RP moment for me because it was easy to pretend he was trying to make sure I stayed safe during battles something I never really noticed wonderful Alistair doing unless I told him to via tactics.

[ejoslin]

Raiynsong wrote...

hey something one of you said got me thinking.... Is there some AI script where Zevran always helped the PC out if he's interested? because I noticed last night that Zevran almost always found the mob I was hitting and helped me kill it (even when I was trying to take out archers away from the main group)
It was a great RP moment for me because it was easy to pretend he was trying to make sure I stayed safe during battles something I never really noticed wonderful Alistair doing unless I told him to via tactics.

Check your tactics.  Zevran (and Daveth as well actually) is set to attack any enemy that attacks you.  It's great for a mage and even a rogue, not so great if you play a tank.

Edit: I'm not the one who actually figured that out.  I always change tactics immediately.  But I added that one back in, figuring it was lore-friendly when not playing a warrior.  It definitely is nice.  I love it when I have two on me, he'll get one with dirty fighting, kill the other, and go back to whatever.  It's fun to watch.

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 février 2010 - 11:05 .

[Raiynsong]

yeah that must be it but I don't remember noticing him doing that in the last game , where I basically ignored him in favor of alistair for my char's RP sake. Maybe I had his tactics set differently and didn't realize it.

[SusanStoHelit]

Nonvita wrote...

On another note, I think I have to kill Zevran this playthrough. My HN could never trust someone who tried to kill her after all the treachery she's already gone through. Sometimes I want to yell at her.

My Dalish elf went that route. She just couldn't trust someone who'd tried to kill her. And the thought of an elf doing so, hunting her down for money, at the behest of a human - she just couldn't spare him. When she told him so, he didn't beg or plead, just asked that she wouldn't do anything barbaric to him - like eat him. So she promised not to - and slit his throat. It fitted - but it was quite a sad moment.

Edit: apparently our Zev is scared of being eaten - I don't know how he copes with darkspawn. 

Modifié par SusanStoHelit, 03 février 2010 - 11:57 .

[Sabriana]

SusanStoHelit wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

On another note, I think I have to kill Zevran this playthrough. My HN could never trust someone who tried to kill her after all the treachery she's already gone through. Sometimes I want to yell at her. {smilie}

My Dalish elf went that route. She just couldn't trust someone who'd tried to kill her. And the thought of an elf doing so, hunting her down for money, at the behest of a human - she just couldn't spare him. When she told him so, he didn't beg or plead, just asked that she wouldn't do anything barbaric to him - like eat him. So she promised not to - and slit his throat. It fitted - but it was quite a sad moment. {smilie}

Edit: apparently our Zev is scared of being eaten - I don't know how he copes with darkspawn. {smilie}

Well, he can console himself with the fact that darkspawn habitually feast on already dead bodies


This game is awesome. I can't kill Zevran, no matter how disillusioned, jaded, ill-dispositioned, whatever, my PCs are. They all get stuck with the 'slavery' issue, meaning that they all abhor it.

My mage (the silly one romancing Alistair) let initially him live because of that. She's been a prisoner practically all her life, and she wanted  him to have a chance. She had no wish to romance him, at least not at the point of their first encounter.

My HN rogue is a practical girl. Initially, she wanted to kill him, but thought it over, and agreed that he'd be put to better use being thrown at darkspawn. Of course, she ended up falling for him just as hard as he fell for her.

My HN warrior also decided to give him one and only one chance. The slavery issue was the primary motivator for her decision as well. Plus the fact that she promised her dying father to do everything she can to defeat the Blight. One more ally was, in her mind, upping the odds for her.

Of course, she had him under watch by her mabari. However, in the forest my suicidal amazon lunges at the darkspawn, and ends up being thrashed by a hurlock and the ogre. Zevran stops everything and runs to her, beating them off her, ignoring his own plight. And that's all she wrote. After that she took an interest, and it gradually heated up for both of them

[ejoslin]

The first time one of my characters asked him if seducing her was part of his plan, his answer actually shook her up -- that there were poisons that were harmless to him that could be killing her. It was at that moment that she realized that if he actually had wanted her dead, she'd be dead, and maybe she had been a bit too trusting. But none of my characters can bring myself to kill him. He's helpless, he's funny, he's not begging. And yes, I agree that his being a slave and trying to get free of that is compelling.

[Loki330]

Monica21 wrote...

SusanStoHelit wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

The way I figure, if the taint isn't hindering Alistair's ability to reproduce, then it's not going to hinder mine. Thus, no reason for me to go killing myself.

It is hindering his ability to reproduce.

Except that Morrigan left pregnant, or my PC would have died on top of the tower.

David Gaider said in another topic about a month ago that 1 Grey Warden means severaly reduced conception rate, but it is possible, and the child will be taintless. He specifically states if both were grey wardens, pregnancy would never occer; without a little help. (Read: Blood magic).

Part of Morrigan's ritual would have been to make damned-sure that she got knocked up.

[Nonvita]

Loki330 wrote...
David Gaider said in another topic about a month ago that 1 Grey Warden means severaly reduced conception rate, but it is possible, and the child will be taintless. He specifically states if both were grey wardens, pregnancy would never occer; without a little help. (Read: Blood magic).

Part of Morrigan's ritual would have been to make damned-sure that she got knocked up.

Oooo really? I never saw that information. Taintless, huh? Sweet, that makes my Zevran baby fantasies possible! :innocent:

But wait, then how did Morrigan's baby have the taint in it?...

[ejoslin]

Nonvita wrote...

Loki330 wrote...
David Gaider said in another topic about a month ago that 1 Grey Warden means severaly reduced conception rate, but it is possible, and the child will be taintless. He specifically states if both were grey wardens, pregnancy would never occer; without a little help. (Read: Blood magic).

Part of Morrigan's ritual would have been to make damned-sure that she got knocked up.

Oooo really? I never saw that information. Taintless, huh? Sweet, that makes my Zevran baby fantasies possible! :innocent:

But wait, then how did Morrigan's baby have the taint in it?...

It doesn't.  It will be an old god, born without the taint.

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 février 2010 - 05:04 .

[Cuddlezarro]

funfact: if you sleep with Morrigan and DONT go through with the dark ritual Morrigan still ends up pregnant (and she obviously didnt complete the ritual since you/Alistair/Loghain still die)



so that an ingame support of the 1 grey warden can have kids if they happen to be young enough

[Creature 1]

Sabriana wrote...
My mage (the silly one romancing Alistair)

I too refer to my mage that romanced Alistair as "the silly one".  

[Nonvita]

ejoslin wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

Loki330 wrote...
David Gaider said in another topic about a month ago that 1 Grey Warden means severaly reduced conception rate, but it is possible, and the child will be taintless. He specifically states if both were grey wardens, pregnancy would never occer; without a little help. (Read: Blood magic).

Part of Morrigan's ritual would have been to make damned-sure that she got knocked up.

Oooo really? I never saw that information. Taintless, huh? Sweet, that makes my Zevran baby fantasies possible! :innocent:

But wait, then how did Morrigan's baby have the taint in it?...

It doesn't.  It will be an old god, born without the taint.

No no, that I understand. It's just that I thought the baby had to have the taint in for the archdemon's soul to travel into it. In the process that would destroy the taint in the child leaving only the Old God's soul... Am I confused?

[ejoslin]

Nonvita wrote...

ejoslin wrote...


It doesn't.  It will be an old god, born without the taint.

No no, that I understand. It's just that I thought the baby had to have the taint in for the archdemon's soul to travel into it. In the process that would destroy the taint in the child leaving only the Old God's soul... Am I confused?

Hah, you're right.  Now I'm confused!

Edit: I suppose that's why the ritual had to be done on the eve of battle -- though it ended up not being done then, really.  Ugh, I can't think too much about this.

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 février 2010 - 05:36 .

[Sialater]

Baby's tainted with the GW taint, yes. A non-ritual child would not be.

[Chanileslie]

I have a hard time choosing between Zevran and Alistair, but because Alistair is so stoic about it, if you break up with him, I can tell that it is breaking his heart and he really believes that he deserves nothing better, I usually choose Alistair. Alistair is sweet and adorable, but strong at the same time.



On the other hand, Zevran makes me laugh every time. Espeically when you ask him to go to bed with you, and one of his lines is: "Pirate Zevran ready to board!".



Both men are insecure, and both believe they deserve nothing so good as to be happy and to have someone love them whole heartedly. They both had tragic childhoods. Zevran covers his with his skirt (or pant) chasing ways and humor. Alistair covers his with his humor.



BTW, I love Alistair's voice acting. It has made me fall in love a little more with Steve Valentine, who I had a crush on to begin with.

[Cuddlezarro]

but because Alistair is so stoic about it, if you break up with him, I can tell that it is breaking his heart and he really believes that he deserves nothing better,

you think Alistair's heart is broken if you break up with him? you should break up with Zevran once he has hit "love" status