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[Stoko981]

In the bar on Illium, a human, a turian and a salarian are sat around a table with an asari dancer on it. They're there because the human guy is throwing the salarian guy a batchelor party. If you listen to enough of their comments, eventually they'll get around to talking about the dancer.

The salarian says she's quite attractive, and that she looks just like a salarian. The human replies that he doesn't see the salarian thing, that she looks pretty human. The turian then argues that no, she looks exactly like a blue turian. Say what? Now sure, they could all be drunk - but doesn't this go a bit beyond that? I mean, you're talking about an entire species here.

This made me think of a couple of other things - asari do look (as far as we know) like blue human women with tentacles instead of hair on their head. Yet we've never once heard any aliens say that humans look like asari. Which considering how none of the other races look anywhere close, you'd think someone would have mentioned the striking similarity between the race that arrived at the Citadel first and the new kids on the block. Perhaps because they don't think we do?

Then there's the asari Consort on the Citadel. She's "many things to many people". I realise I'm reaching a little, but could it be that statement was meant a little more literally than it was taken? I mean, even the elcor enjoy her services. And in the same way I can't see a human ever being attracted to an elcor, I imagine an elcor would never be attracted to a human - so why an asari? Unless he thinks she looks like a blue elcor?

Then there's the asari on Illium that's got her krogan boyfriend spouting love poetry at her. She mentions how he wanted kids with her under the mistaken belief they'd be krogan or half krogan. But, when he found out the asari take no DNA from the father when they procreate, his answer was that he'd love his daughters "whatever their skin colour". Again, maybe I'm reaching, but I'd hardly pinpoint skin colour as the first and most noteworthy difference between a krogan and an asari. Unless he just sees them as blue krogans?

I know it sounds implausible - for example, I don't know what form they could truly have that could accomodate people hallucinating them as being creatures of all various sizes and shapes (anything from a small and portly blue volus to a big blue elcor or krogan). Never mind the fact that they apparently wear human armour with ease - unless them wearing things you've given them would also be part of the illusion. I also don't know how they'd consistantly fool electronic recording devices, or how it would never have come up in conversation between various different species, as it did in that bar conversation.

But it's certainly something to think about.

[The_mango55]

Yeah I've thought about it also, even before the bachelor party. It might not be mind control, or at least willful mind control, it could be an involuntary thing.

About the Krogan with the Asari, I made a thread about this back at the old forums about why a Krogan would want an Asari.
http://meforums.biow...18111&forum=144
People doubted me, but it looks like I was right

Modifié par The_mango55, 29 janvier 2010 - 01:49 .

[OLDSCHOOLPOSER]

Thanks for posting something actually worth reading, that's pretty insightful good post.

[thesovereign]

I don't usually bring threads back after they die but I thought that this is an interesting question.

Drunken ramblings from a Bachelor Party or deceptive method of improving their gene pool?

[jsog]

This is an amazing observation, and makes a ton of sense. Remember that Samara's daughters have advanced Asari abilities to basically force other people completely in love with them - which, imo, indicates your idea of Asari appearing to be attractive versions of females of other races to them very plausible.

[Stoko981]

jsog wrote...

This is an amazing observation, and makes a ton of sense. Remember that Samara's daughters have advanced Asari abilities to basically force other people completely in love with them - which, imo, indicates your idea of Asari appearing to be attractive versions of females of other races to them very plausible.

Not to mention that whole mind-linking/mind-reading/Embrace Eternity thing they can all do. That certainly isn't a biotic power, and they can all do it. Maybe there's more to it than meets the eye.

[ghost277]

Yeah after i heard this, I kind of just sat infront of my tv for a while thinking about it. If this was true, imagine what the asari look like to each other.

Modifié par ghost277, 30 janvier 2010 - 01:49 .

[Schneidend]

It's probably not something I'd call "mind control," and their "use" of it is probably purely subconscious. I doubt there's anything sinister going on. The asari are naturally empathic, so empathic as to be telepathic in a sense. I doubt they actually change their appearance in the minds of another being, but they probably transmit a sense of familiarity and accentuate things about themselves another race would like. Litheness for salarians, their scalps for the turians, and, um, I dunno, child-bearing hips for the krogan???

[Giantevilhead]

They probably evolved to produce pheromones that attract other species.

[Ilawene]

Asari have been around for thousands of years, I think if this were the case it would probably be known by now. All it would take would be Bob the Krogan asking his friend Jimmy the Volus what he sees in that blue girl and the game would be up.

Now the Asari unconciously using their mind powers to trigger an attraction response in other races, regardless of their appearance makes a little more sense, and would also cover why they have no problem using human equipment.

Of course why they can do that when they reproduce by parthenogenesis is another question entirely.

Modifié par Ilawene, 30 janvier 2010 - 01:58 .

[Ilawene]

Just saw the batchelor party guys again. They mention drinking shots out of the stripper's navel, which I'm fairly sure Turians and Salarians dont have. So I guess its safe to say that Asari look the same to everyone .

[Inverness Moon]

We'll have to ask Legion what the asari look like to it.

Ilawene wrote...

Just saw the batchelor party guys again.
They mention drinking shots out of the stripper's navel, which I'm
fairly sure Turians and Salarians dont have. So I guess its safe to say
that Asari look the same to everyone [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie].

Well there goes that theory.

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 30 janvier 2010 - 08:24 .

[manyfistss]

The mind picks up patterns I assume Turians and Salarian minds do the same, we're trained to look for certain things, so when we see an Asari we see what we want to see. They're blue humanoids that can appeal to any humanoid species because we all look for almost the same thing.

[Litos456]

I see the way you're thinking. All the evidence you mentioned does lead to this possibility however as you said, there are several things that conflict with it, such as clothes and when you are in bed with Liara or when you touch any Asari they're still that human like shape. They can be shapeshifters, but they can't be different shapes at the same time. Unless they can... but that's just weird. Then they're more complicated than the reapers

[Sharn01]

I may be inclined to agree with you where it not for pictures and sculpture's. Outside of the club in ME1 with the stripper's there is a neon Asari sign on the wall, you can not fake that with slight mind inducing abilities from a non present Asari.

[MatronAdena]

The way I see it, is certain species look at and identify with certain features the asari have in common with them...and the Turian pointed out " what? they look like turians, can't you see the head frill?" that feature on them being something the turians would see as " normal" where as humans would latch on more to the asari face as something familiar...

[Crovax_PSO]

If you drink the mystery drink at the bar on Illium, the bartender looks drastically different as well. Still like an asari, but a completely different face.

[luet1991]

No, because the AI in the Citadel look like the Asari that we see. Be as cool of an idea as it is, it's nigh impossible to program a hologram to look like one thing to one person, and another thing to the person standing beside him. That, and they have to buy clothes. They were just drunk. The Turian would think they looked like Turians because of the Tentacles. The Human would believe she looked human because they obviously have human features. And the Salarian would think that because, let's face it, Salarians are weird.

[Candy Wagon]

Certainly makes sense. Also adds insight as to why the asari seem to fart red mist when you do 'em.

Modifié par Candy Wagon, 31 janvier 2010 - 06:52 .

[Shanra]

I drank that mystery drink, but I didn't notice anything different. o.O I'll have to try that again.

[mdp310]

I thought HOLY CRAP MIND CONTROL too.



But, here's also this...

The asari body type is pretty much exactly like humans. The tentacley things on their heads sweep back, like the spikes on a turian (the turian guy even goes "she looks just like a blue turian! look at her head thingies"

The only one that doesn't fit is the Salarians...

[mr boom95]

but if this is all true what do asari really look like then (to other asari)

[GnusmasTHX]

I don't get it.

I mean... Wouldn't any other species that's not human notice the striking dissimilarity in their actual form, despite some mind control? They have the same shape as a human, no matter what they can make someone think. They wear the same armor as us, after all. 

Further proof that this is not the case: Listen to the krogan in one of the main 'cities', I think it's the Citadel. He says something like, "I don't get the big deal about asari, they're too soft and squishy, nothing to hold on to." So obviously asari look and feel like asari to them.

Also; I'm pretty sure the mystery drink thing at Illium is your typical "booze makes women hotter" thing. It seemed to me she was supposed to be unattractive.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 31 janvier 2010 - 07:16 .

[mdp310]

mr boom95 wrote...

but if this is all true what do asari really look like then (to other asari)

FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER