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[hu5ton]

I did the loyalty quest with Jack and apparently just pissed her off during the argument she has with Miranda afterwards since i didn't have an option to stop it. Now everytime i talk to her I have 3 options 2 are faded out because I didnt have my Paragon or Renegade high enough and the other is to just leave her which i have to pick. So can i just get my renegae/paragon up and talk to her again or is she just gonna be pissed forever lol

[Sonris]

Yeah this was one thing that got me two, I lost Mirianda's loyal status because of the fight, I need to rember to get my paragon points up more, I admit I must have indulged in more renegade actions then i did in ME1 but the paragon points required for this fight seem very hard.



On the flip side I was able to ease tensions between Legion and Tali, which I would have figured would be the most difficult thing to talk down.

[hu5ton]

Yeah i really want to get everyone loyal except for Zaeed or w.e i can't stand that guy but you think it's possible to get the points up and fix it?

[Pathogen69]

Sonris wrote...
On the flip side I was able to ease tensions between Legion and Tali, which I would have figured would be the most difficult thing to talk down.

ya, i was a little disappointed at how easy it was to settle the arguement between tali and legion.  id have thought the two would be tearing each other up.

but, you have to admit, jokers comment regarding the jack/miranda fight was pretty funny, "make sure to take pictures!"

[BlackwindTheCommander]

I was able to Charm my way out of that one. I didn't want anyone splattered thank you very much! (especially me)

[hu5ton]

Pathogen69 wrote...

but, you have to admit, jokers comment regarding the jack/miranda fight was pretty funny, "make sure to take pictures!"

hahah yeah it was i'm just frustrated I can't get it to end lol

[Spinnazie]

Pathogen69 wrote...

Sonris wrote...
On the flip side I was able to ease tensions between Legion and Tali, which I would have figured would be the most difficult thing to talk down.

ya, i was a little disappointed at how easy it was to settle the arguement between tali and legion.  id have thought the two would be tearing each other up.

but, you have to admit, jokers comment regarding the jack/miranda fight was pretty funny, "make sure to take pictures!"

Just the opposite was for me. For the Legion and Tali fight I had atleast 3/4 or more renegade and STILL couldn't use the renegade option to difuse the fight.

[Mr.Skar]

So do I need full Paragon to smooth things over? I keep hearing that, but I've also heard that some folks have resolved that conflict with a lower Paragon score.

[hu5ton]

Mr.Skar wrote...

So do I need full Paragon to smooth things over? I keep hearing that, but I've also heard that some folks have resolved that conflict with a lower Paragon score.

Maybe you need a combination of both?

[Ericone]

Just confirming because I'm old and slow and on my first play through. The fight doesn't happen until you do Jack's loyalty mission? I can safely recruit her without a 100% paragon?

[Evil_Sarevok]

Yep.

[Ericone]

Thanks!

[Neostorm Torden]

Spin****e wrote...

Pathogen69 wrote...

Sonris wrote...
On the flip side I was able to ease tensions between Legion and Tali, which I would have figured would be the most difficult thing to talk down.

ya, i was a little disappointed at how easy it was to settle the arguement between tali and legion.  id have thought the two would be tearing each other up.

but, you have to admit, jokers comment regarding the jack/miranda fight was pretty funny, "make sure to take pictures!"

Just the opposite was for me. For the Legion and Tali fight I had atleast 3/4 or more renegade and STILL couldn't use the renegade option to difuse the fight.

Is this a bug i have max renegade the first time i did legions loyalty mission i saved the geth which dropped my renegade i restarted killed them and with max renegade i was unable to select the renegade option. I seem to still have everyone loyalty but it REALLY bothers me i'm unable to see the renegade story option when i have it maxed. To hear that you only need a small amount of paragon makes me think someone made a mistake.

[KingDan97]

You need 80% of either to solve fights. That's 4 sections filled and 4 bars passed. Higher is fine but it doesn't do anything more for you. I got Miranda/Jack both happy after picking Miranda first since I was gonna tap Jack. Only way to resolve it is w/ 80% and go talk to whoever you pissed off.

[Leithiane]

I cant resolve this bad fsction with jsck snd I have 100% paragon. I see the options greyed out.

So maybe you need more renegade mixed in too. Seems like im fubared as ive completed every quest exept the final take down.

[Gill Kaiser]

Neostorm Torden wrote...

Spin****e wrote...

Pathogen69 wrote...

Sonris wrote...
On the flip side I was able to ease tensions between Legion and Tali, which I would have figured would be the most difficult thing to talk down.

ya, i was a little disappointed at how easy it was to settle the arguement between tali and legion.  id have thought the two would be tearing each other up.

but, you have to admit, jokers comment regarding the jack/miranda fight was pretty funny, "make sure to take pictures!"

Just the opposite was for me. For the Legion and Tali fight I had atleast 3/4 or more renegade and STILL couldn't use the renegade option to difuse the fight.

Is this a bug i have max renegade the first time i did legions loyalty mission i saved the geth which dropped my renegade i restarted killed them and with max renegade i was unable to select the renegade option. I seem to still have everyone loyalty but it REALLY bothers me i'm unable to see the renegade story option when i have it maxed. To hear that you only need a small amount of paragon makes me think someone made a mistake.

Do you have the +renegade or +paragon class skill specialisation? That
makes persuasion easier. Maybe there's a charm/intimidate option that's
so difficult to get, you can't choose it unless you not only have a
full paragon/renegade bar, but you also have your class skill bonus.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 02 février 2010 - 03:00 .

[deimosmasque]

Also remember that "charm/intimidate" is tied to your class skill, the higher it is the better chance you have for those options, it's been the first thing I max out on my playthroughs.

[gamebites]

the arguements are weird for me it seemed i needed much more paragon then renegade for the charm option to appear miranda and jack fight to get the option i had them about equal but could only use renegade then with tali and legion i only had the charm option so i think the miranda and jack one needs less renegade then paragon to sort out and tali and legion the other way

thats just how it worked out for me anyway

but if you have to choose who to side with i think you should go for jack because you can talk to miranda and sort it out with a paragon or renegade choice but if you choose mirandas side then you can never talk to jack without her telling you to.. go away..

[xX Dantes Xx]

hu5ton wrote...

I did the loyalty quest with Jack and apparently just pissed her off during the argument she has with Miranda afterwards since i didn't have an option to stop it. Now everytime i talk to her I have 3 options 2 are faded out because I didnt have my Paragon or Renegade high enough and the other is to just leave her which i have to pick. So can i just get my renegae/paragon up and talk to her again or is she just gonna be pissed forever lol

You need to moveB) on

[Lukertin]

Leithiane wrote...

I cant resolve this bad fsction with jsck snd I have 100% paragon. I see the options greyed out.
So maybe you need more renegade mixed in too. Seems like im fubared as ive completed every quest exept the final take down.

I believe you also need ranks 1-4 bought on your character's powers sheet.

[masterkojiro]

I have max paragon with my class skill maxed out and still can't get Jack to come back to my side.



I was just a tiny notch from 100% when I got the J/M argument and it still wouldn't let me calm it down.

[thewayofblackbelt]

well looks like I'm not the only one who can't get the cheer leaders to freaking calm down.

[battlinbill07]

masterkojiro wrote...

I have max paragon with my class skill maxed out and still can't get Jack to come back to my side.

I was just a tiny notch from 100% when I got the J/M argument and it still wouldn't let me calm it down.

I'd like to know this too. My first playthrough I got through fine- everyone loyal, solved the fight at 80% paragon. I just did another one, and I had about 85% paragon, 15-20% renegade by the time their fight broke out, and I can't persuade them, even with maxed class (soldier). It makes me think that the choices are based on the net sum of the two, but that doesn't really make sense.