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[Lyrandori]

Hi, everyone.

I am writing this specifically for BioWare, mostly due to the fact that I consider myself an expert sensitive easy-to-immerse-in role-play gamer, and thus the various opinions from other players on what is about to follow is irrelevant to me, but probably more relevant to you guys at BioWare, since those opinions could be viewed as suggestions from your point of view, but what I am going to... "express"... is clear and absolute in my mind, and don't worry, it ain't that much to sustain. I just want to give a fair warning however that this read could be "long" for certain persons with a short attention span, so I'll do my best to write this as cleanly and as understandably as possible even though English is not my native language (let's hope that I won't have to deal with anti-alien Cerberus extremists around).

Alright, BioWare, as the thread's title mentions this concerns the "amount" of content, of material, of events from the original Mass Effect's romance to Mass Effect 2, and how much of it affects the sequel. I, like many other players who had been waiting for ME2 to come out were told not very long after the great success of ME that if we kept our saved games we would then be able to import it for our ME2's journey, and that most of the "important" events that occurred, as consequences of our decisions and actions, would be brought in ME2's story line and that those original actions and events would have repercussions one way or another eventually in the sequel. When I read that news back then I was quite excited about such a feature, especially when I thought that in order to have the "proper" events going on that I would basically need to play ME entirely before "starting a new game" in ME2, or in other words that playing a new game directly in ME2 without touching the original would simply offer a lesser gaming experience in totality, all things considered, it's like reading a book which belongs to a trilogy, you don't really want to start with the sequel right away, if there's (and there usually is one) a protagonist or antagonist you'll need to "get acquainted" with him/her from the "real start", in this case being ME1. That's really fine.

And as mentioned earlier I like to consider myself some sort of a veteran sissy of role playing games, relax guys, it's just a term I like using which... let's say... describes how easily I can feel when I am entirely immersed or "concerned" by scenes, actions, consequences, dialog, music, events... whatever is well-crafted in pretty much any RPGs, especially voiced ones can bring me to tears, to joy, to fear, to anything humanly possible or desired by the developers, just as long as it's well done, and BioWare are the Dwarfs of the past and present in the gaming industry capable of brilliantly and artistically carving and literally manipulating the rock that is the RPG genre especially on PC and for western players (mostly, but also European ones to some extent), you guys at BioWare really are geniuses at this, and no there's no sarcasm here, I mean it from the very deep bottom of my heart, for whatever this may represent from a pure Mr. Joe Internet guy to the ears of those sitting on the Golden Throne.

So much for an intro and I've barely spoken about the main points I wanted to share, sorry it's the way I am, I mean in real life, hehe, when I start writing something I tend to forget that I should try to accommodate for persons who don't like reading too much especially when whatever is being written leads to nowhere after two paragraphs, my bad on that, if I offended you guys. Alright, so to the point shall I?

The thing is that for the role player that I am I really felt that my own Shepard would fit very well with Liara in the original Mass Effect, so I did my best to get along with her from the start which was fortunately very easy to do thanks to her soft character from the get go (thanks the ME writers and developers for going that way with her, well, at least in the original, because in the sequel it's... different). I still haven't tried going with other romance "options" in the original game yet but at least so far Liara has been the good choice for two of my three characters I've made to date in Mass Effect, two of which are females, and those two being the games with which I've completed ME (the third one with my male character has yet to be completed, and I'll be on that right after completing ME2 with my current game). So, yeah, you guessed it, I went in for some hot blue alien lesbo action. Nah, let's look at it more... ermmm... deeply, I mean, hey, I mean in terms of character profile and development here, you dirty little foxes­.

So both of those female characters I had developed went with a specific profile from the choices we were given at the start of ME1, you know, Mindoir, Torfan (I hate being called the Butcher of Torfan, by the way), and so on, that's fine, and that's the basis from which our characters are developed upon, from us the role players, so from those base references of our "past" we try to role play the rest and fill in the gaps when there are (as I like to call it, the "off-screen" events concerning our character, her behaviors, her dialog, anything that doesn't actually happen in-game and crafted by the developers nor even the lore's writer but things created by our imagination, to put it simply). Everything that we role players can illusion ourselves into believing being true to our character will inevitably be an integral part of how we play the game, or perhaps I should speak for myself from this point on, since I don't know exactly to what level others around here can actually role play their games, but I always tend to go off-limits so to speak, as I mentioned, creating "new facts" outside of the actual game's events, for a universe created by the writer(s) of ME that is obviously much bigger and richer that even ten trilogies could accomplish to describe, it's exactly right there along with the big ones such as Star Trek, Star Wars, Star Gate, you name it... heck, Mass Effect in my opinion should eventually be made a movie trilogy, at least, and get more books describing its universe even further, but anyway I'm derailing from the main subject again, see? Hehe, sorry.

Ok, so where was I...

Oh, yeah, alright. Well when I started ME2 after importing my "main" ME1 game it was like a renewal with my dear Shepard. I mean outside of the turbulent, oppressing and absolutely mind-blowing introduction that is (you guys should win freaking' Oscars for that intro alone). After my scarred and mutilated Shepard (apparently so anyway) wakes up in the heat of action barely starting to get on her balance, I knew I was in for some serious business, but, hey, she's my Shepard, she'll do it, those fragile CIS Battle Droid-inspired wannabes wouldn't be able to do anything against someone who've confronted and defeated Saren in person, right?

Anyway, further in to the point. After doing some missions, after reading some mails and speaking to the X-Files' Smoker's grand-grand-grand-grand-grand son a few times I realized that my love, my Liara was now apparently working as an information broker on Illium, I wished to have her on board the new Normandy like the good ol' days you know, but alas, I have to cope with the decisions of the writer and the developers and consider it officially happening that way, so, fine, I'll do it, I mean I can make and take some shortcuts around the path that the developer carves and paves for me (the "off-screen" stuff I'm inventing for myself) but I still ultimately follow the river's current. I awaited long, you know, two years for her (Liara) without me ("me" being my current Shepard) must have been quite different than me without her for two years, during which I probably only had one or two occasions of consciousness before being brought back to sleep almost immediately after with medication, since I was too weak to do anything (by the way, yes at this point I'm immersing myself into my character a little bit to try to give a little more weight to my thoughts... and no I didn't expect to describe any of this in Elcor-level details beforehand).

Two years have passed and I find myself now in this new Normandy, well Joker is there, that's a relief, and Chakwas too, good persons they are, very professional and also very... human, it's a noticeable change from the multi-species crew of the former Normandy, that's official. I went to my private quarters after touring the ship for the first time yesterday, and the one thing that I never expected to see there was nothing less than a picture of my love on my desk.... how the Hell did the Illusive Man knew... I guess Ashley eventually let it out? Nah... or... no, I wouldn't imagine Liara herself talking about our relationship to the others or... damn... it's possible. Anyway, thanks for that picture, whoever thought about this. But what is she becoming now? Should I go meet her right away... how is she going to react... how... oh Liara, if only I could just hug you and tell you how much I missed... damn Shepard! Wake up! You've got a mission to do and Joker just received the co-ordinates, alright, take a breath, clear your mind, focus Shepard, focus, let's go.

*From this point I just realize that speaking as my Shepard is dull for this thread's main goal*

Yeah, alright, what was I blabbing about up there? Well, it's quite simple (or is it?). Let's say that despite how grand, massive, epic and beautiful Mass Effect 2 is, I thought that there's obviously not enough when it comes to the relationship developed in the original game that happens to affect the sequel, by that I mean how much of it was imported in ME2 and how much of that imported content would affect the course of events or even just the course of "dialog" between the concerned characters when they do finally meet after those two apparently very crucial years of "absence" (in terms of changes at least for the former crew). Now, of course, everyone up to a certain point thought I was dead except for Joker and probably Chakwas as well...

Well, the point is that when my own Shepard finally go to Liara's administrative office I was actually pleased by their reactions, yes even if Liara's attention was probably elsewhere at that point but... they both melted into each others and shared a passionate and tender kiss... and then... well, and then Liara gives a strangely unsettling look at Shepard, as if something much more important was going on than their two-years-in-the-waiting retrieval, namely Liara's new dirty work. Heh, well yeah, things change, she certainly changed, but I still wanted to help Liara with my Shepard, since my own Shepard hasn't changed at all since her "accident", she didn't have the time to do so, obviously, my Shepard was literally dead most of that time, but Liara... Liara was alive for those two years, going with the flows of life in the scheme of things, adapting to changes of mind and obligations, she had debts she said, alright, she's an information broker, she now has enemies, ironically potentially more dangerous than even the Geth, Saren or a raging Krogan.

Alright, despite the fact that my Shepard does not agree with your new ways of life Liara, she's still going to help you, you know why? Because when humans love they tend to love until the situation is made clear, until the situation is settled between both parties concerned. Well, BioWare, that's my problem right now in ME2. The love my Shepard had for Liara in ME1 was made "available" quite late in the game, but at least it was clear enough, and I'm not just speaking about being able to bang her, the dialog itself was clear outside of any scripted kissing scenes. But in ME2... well, I have a picture in my room on the Normandy to constantly remind me that, yes, my Shepard loved her back then, but nothing is made clear by Liara herself in her new own office if I should still love her, if the "situation" permits it, or if I can "move on" to a big-boobed law-obsessed Asari who could crush your internal organs just as easily as Darth Vader, or if I could move on with some crazy ass girl who effectively stopped maturing at the age of ten years-old or so which happened to be when she got beaten in all ways, shapes and forms, and physically and mentally tortured... or if I can move on with a human that happens to have had no mother in her entire existence and who still reads my personal e-mails even after helping her to save her damn sister....

I mean, alright, Liara gave me a kiss, that's cool, and then, bang, in your face Shepard, back to work, I'm not sure if you guys at BioWare get the entire point so far, and hey I'm not trying to be rude here, it's an actual legitimate question, remember, English isn't my native language so I'm just trying to be clear enough here. More precisely, perhaps, I can say that I was expecting clear dialog with Liara that our relationship was effectively impossible even outside the Normandy. Well, you know, I mean technically speaking the answer is there because the developers and or writer(s) of the ME lore and those responsible to decide what happens with which characters did not want to include options in the dialog that would lead to anything specific, such as an almost public-sex scene or a "any time on-demand kiss with each visits to my office to remind ourselves that we're still in love"... you see now? I mean nothing is made clear. When I was finished helping Liara with her missions I was still expecting new dialog options, new branches to open up regarding "our situation". I mean it wasn't enough to get a kiss like that without dialog following in regard to that subject, it directly went to business right after that brief moment, and it really had to happen in front of both Garrus and Zaeed, can you imagine? I mean, well, Garrus is an old friend and he probably knew all along anyway but Zaeed?! C'mon what is he going to think of the Commander he has to deal with now....

Anyway,  the whole point here is that, BioWare, please, if you actually took the time to ask your mappers and coders to put a picture of Liara on my desk, and if you also took the time to further develop Liara into ME2, and if you took the time and made the efforts into making a legitimately good looking but very brief kissing scene, then why not at least creating just a little bit more to "perpetuate", to "resume" or to "clear out" on with the relationship or at least to put things on the table and clearly so for the role player gamers around like me who just can't move on with other "love options" for various reasons including the absolute repulsion that all of them new choices represent for my current character? I am NOT asking for a bang scene in that office of hers, I am not even asking for more kissing, I'm simply asking for a minimal amount of dialog that would clarify things between them, you know, something along the lines of the following stuff I just made out:

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[Shepard]: I couldn't stop thinking about you Liara, it must have been difficult for you, two years...
[Liara]: Shepard, there isn't much I can add to my feelings, they're the same towards you now than they were before, I assure you.... but as you say, two years....
[Shepard]: You... seem concerned Liara, please tell me what's in your heart.
[Liara]: Things have changed Shepard, substantially. I had debts, there were... situations that I regretfully haven't told you when we had time.
[Shepard]: Liara, if you need help, I'll do everything for you, I still love...
[Liara]: Please, Shepard, I know, I... yes, I know what are your feelings for me but it's very difficult for me to talk about this, it's the not same, you see?
[Shepard]: Liara, whatever are your thoughts concerning ourselves, our past, or our present, I will respect them, it might be hard, I won't deny it, but you know me Liara, after all, I would prefer if we made things clear now than never.
[Liara]: I understand Shepard. It shall be so then. I will never forget the time we had together Shepard, I will never forget our journey, the dangers, the adventures, the things we and the crew did together, and for you, but when it comes to us Shepard... I think... it's... it would be better for both of us, it would be wise to leave it to our memories.

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See? Something simple, I'm sorry I'm not a good writer especially not when it comes to English and certainly not when I'm trying to act professional at it with some emotional elements thrown in. But the point is... and I will repeat myself again, that there's nothing clear enough to put under our teeth when it comes to the relationship "status" between both characters simply because the available dialog and following missions do not allow anything related to that to even slip in even subtly. If not actual voiced dialog then I don't know, maybe a clear "let's take a walk together in Illium" branch in the dialog which would be followed by... I don't know... maybe by a few short scenes of both characters gently and innocently walking around Illium's market or just stopping by the stands to admire the scenery while both of them sometimes hold their hands or make arms and heads gestures to signify to the player that they're both just talking and remembering about things with some calm and relaxing music in the background, and then the scene fades away and then we come back to her office, and she thanks Shepard for the good moment they just had together... imagination guys, you icarnate it BioWare, use it! But, yes, I know, if there's one thing you can't incarnate in this tough business it must be time huh? Perhaps it was just a lack of time for the development of the game, features you had to cut... bah!

So, in the end, please, BioWare, I know that this will not affect ME2 at all, things are done for ME2, I mean the voice actors got their pay check, the coders have done their job, it's all done, and I doubt that any DLC will be focused on "love affairs" for the sake of business and ensure that things sell well, so DLCs will be focused on more things to blow up, that's fine, I'm not expecting any changes at this point in ME2, but I certainly am expecting something considered for ME3 about this. Whatever happens in ME2 in terms of relationship with Shepard and one of the available crew members please ensure that things can be settled down in ME3 for good between the concerned characters. Alright, now that's pretty much about it, sorry if the length of this thread is too much but I just had to get it out of my chest.

[EJon]

You should relax. Bioware said there was a reward for those who stayed faithful to their ME1 LI's in ME3. So you'll just have to wait and see what it is.

[Lyrandori]

Muffin_Tops wrote...

It would be a big help if you would just list your main bullet points in a single sentence or two each (with some supporting info underneath in a separate paragrah as needed) . And leave out the biographical information. That was simply too much to read and most of it was irrelevant to what you were trying to get across.

I am not knocking you, rather you appear to have some good points to make and have thought them through, and it will be to your advantage to make those thoughts more accesible to the readers.

Just go through and "pare it down" a bit to remove any info that is unnecessary to the point(s) of your thread and I'm sure there will be some good feedback.

To sum up my thoughts on the point of your post, I would agree that a little more reaction from ME1 squadmates in general (and LI's in particular) would have been good. In fact my initial meeting with Tali left me somewhat taken aback at how casual it was. She reacted like I would to meeting a casual acquaintance in a public place when I haven't seen them in a few days. Not at all like meeting a close friend whom she though died two years ago...

Noted! Thanks for the input regarding my writing, and thanks for sharing your opinion with us. :happy:

[ARK of ILKS]

Do your fingers hurt/bleed after that behamoth.

[Corben158]

EJon wrote...

You should relax. Bioware said there was a reward for those who stayed faithful to their ME1 LI's in ME3. So you'll just have to wait and see what it is.

Stay faithful? like hack computers for Liara then do nothing with her, or stay faithful to ashely who blows you off and is never seen again?

[deusofnull]

Heres me. 
Huge tali fan, couldnt romance in ME1.
Also a huge Liara fan, hated Ashly... exnophobic brute
In ME2. Liara has "grown up".  I feel like shes lost her old self in the brief span of 2 years (like a month for Asari...)
Like I said, huge Tali fan.  I was so excited when Kelly told me about Tali "looking at me the way she did" 

I would have romanced Tali in the first game but there was no option.  
Still didnt see her face though, which sucks.  Theyll show it in ME3 I'm sure, but thats another 2 or 3 years away.

Modifié par deusofnull, 29 janvier 2010 - 05:25 .

[WarmachineX0]

deusofnull wrote...

Heres me. 
Huge tali fan, couldnt romance in ME1.
Also a huge Liara fan, hated Ashly... exnophobic brute
In ME2. Liara has "grown up".  I feel like shes lost her old self in the brief span of 2 years (like a month for Asari...)
Like I said, huge Tali fan.  I was so excited when Kelly told me about Tali "looking at me the way she did" 

I would have romanced Tali in the first game but there was no option.  
Still didnt see her face though, which sucks.  Theyll show it in ME3 I'm sure, but thats another 2 or 3 years away.

Personally, I feel the same way. None of the LI's in ME1 fit my shepard, IMHO, Tali had more character in her dialog and body expressions then all of the LI's in ME1 had put togeather.  They all seemed like ports of the StarWars LIs. Though, our opinions differ ove ash and Liara, I just chose Ash because I assummed Tali wouldn't be avalible, and the LI would carry over to ME2. But instead, I found that Ash, has as much character as a wet paper bag still. What, her supposive "love" comes back from the dead, the man she trusted 100% in ME, yet dlows a fuse when she find that he is currently working with Cerberaus. Ash should have acted the way Tali did, the way I would expect someone that cared about my character would.

I sure hope we don't get screwed over in ME3 for choosing Tali, and I wish I could remove Ash's Picture.......

[Krevian]

One question I have about this topic is, how do you know if you have stayed faithful to your ME1 love interest? I mean other than the obvious you didn't sleep with anyone else. Is there something special I need to do to make sure I stay faithful? Right before the last mission Shepard went into his room and stared at the picture of Ashley, is that it? Does that mean I stayed faithful?



I really hope they do more than that in ME3. I mean, I get to see her, she's happy to see me, hug/kiss scene, then gets completely pissed that I'm working for Cerberus and storms off. I get an email, she apologizes for what she said, and basically tells me she still loves me and couldn't bear to lose me again, but she can't go with me if I'm working for Cerberus, and tells me to stay alive... anddd that's all!



Every single person of your previous crew you get to see wrapped up nicely. I've been told that the Liara encounter isn't much better, that she basically is really happy to see you then acts like nothing happened, but I mean at least you get to talk at length with her. After Ashley storms off that's it you never hear or see from her for the rest of the game save for that one email.

[DocSun]

Actually I think any crew member that you interact with in ME2 from the old normandy (save the thes who join you) are all bland. Ash/kaiden is there and gone, Liara turned into her mother sort of... i mean thats the first impression you get from her, Wrex is either dead or gets a few lines with you and grunt. They are all bland.



And getting into my mindset for RPing Ash pissed me off. You love me... but im not worth following... **** you. Ironicly I fell for Jack. She understands

[Driveninhifi]

I was disappointed with Liara as well.

I didn't totally buy the change. I can buy her acting tough, putting on that face, but actually really hating doing it. I don't see her being obsessed enough to do that for anyone but Shepard, though in my playthrough she mentioned a "friend." I'd buy that if she wasn't Shepard's lover (I don't see her falling in love with someone that quickly after Shepard dies if she loves him/her), or maybe if her actions to get Shepard's body back caused the friend's death. But not really in any other case - it just doesn't fit.



It's an interesting place to take the character if she is indeed doing it for shepard's memory. There are too many plot points you can miss if you don't pick the right options, then they are locked out. That's terrible, as you really, really NEED to show the player what the character has been through to warrant such a modulation of the character. It needs to be mandatory.



I've heard you can get a dialogue where you talk about the relationship if you pick the right options....has anyone actually seen this?

[AndroLeonidas]

Driveninhifi wrote...

I was disappointed with Liara as well.
I didn't totally buy the change. I can buy her acting tough, putting on that face, but actually really hating doing it. I don't see her being obsessed enough to do that for anyone but Shepard, though in my playthrough she mentioned a "friend." I'd buy that if she wasn't Shepard's lover (I don't see her falling in love with someone that quickly after Shepard dies if she loves him/her), or maybe if her actions to get Shepard's body back caused the friend's death. But not really in any other case - it just doesn't fit.

It's an interesting place to take the character if she is indeed doing it for shepard's memory. There are too many plot points you can miss if you don't pick the right options, then they are locked out. That's terrible, as you really, really NEED to show the player what the character has been through to warrant such a modulation of the character. It needs to be mandatory.

I've heard you can get a dialogue where you talk about the relationship if you pick the right options....has anyone actually seen this?

I reloaded like half a dozen times to work all the options for dialogue and never came across her discussing how she felt about you.

[MaverikVII]

I heard LI with Morinth is possible, just not a good ending. If you catch my drift. But I was really hoping for a possible LI with Samara. I thought she was a truly unique character and hot for an asari!

[Lyrandori]

Ahhh, good to see many opinions ultimately, I appreciate your participation in this subject guys, many of you bring good points, and the "romance issues" in ME2 seem to be simply greater than they could be in ME1. I like to role play, as I said in my original post, but to be honest I just can't seem to be able to think of a character I could "build" that would actually fit as a love interest for any of the newly available members in ME2, and the most troubling of all is that if there was any smallest chance of occurrence for "love" it would end up with a male Renegade character with Jack, and after trying just once to make a Renegade in the original Mass Effect I really don't see myself just trying it in ME2 just to get the chance to watch the surely brief scene between them that would be the love revelation moment.

And excluding Liara's negligible role for my Paragon Shepard (mostly Paragon, that is, with a very slight touch of Renegade, barely, but... just a bit, she has the Butcher of Torfan profile after all, and I made her use the sudden Renegade click options during two scenes so far). The only other "candidate" that would fit my current Shepard would be... Kelly, and that's a big problem, for me that means bad decisions from BioWare. Simply put and briefly said, and as much as I hate saying it, I think that ME2 brings virtually no room for any "love", it's indeed quite darker than the original, although like Joker rightly reminds us, it may have been the "good ol' times" but there weren't always hugs and flowers, there were casualties and destruction too.

But I understand and respect the fact that Mass Effect isn't about love anyway, the romance options are extras, Mass Effect's goal is to tell a story concerning a specific arc of events and characters, it concerns the Reapers, the ultimate end of the galaxy and how it can be saved, so in the end whatever we say, I think, BioWare knows that it ain't the first priority in the first place.

Modifié par Lyrandori, 29 janvier 2010 - 01:36 .

[shaunarz]

Wow.. I actually read all of that...



Anyways, I agree to a point with you.. I was quite let down that my original ME1 romance with Kaiden didnt play through to ME2.. But, as someone said earlier, I did hear rumors of the reward to staying faithful, and, im going to do so, no matter how hot jacob is, im alll about Kaiden and, thats not going to change for a quick piece of ass.. (The area code rule doesnt transfer to the terminus system, lol)

But either way, fingers crossed for us faithful sheps!

[BECC4]

I only have love for Kaiden, I just really hope the reward is worth it, it's that part I was most looking forward to and now she''ll have to wait another 2ish yrs to find out if he actually gives a s**t!



Lol, just like real life!

[flippingthemako]

BECC4 wrote...

I only have love for Kaiden, I just really hope the reward is worth it, it's that part I was most looking forward to and now she''ll have to wait another 2ish yrs to find out if he actually gives a s**t!

QFT

[Driveninhifi]

For me, the worst part of the interaction with Liara is that you can't ask the most natural question - which is "Where do WE stand?" That's a huge oversight and makes the whole thing seem very unnatural.

[Br0th3rGr1mm]

Sorry, I still can't get the the exact feel of what you are saying...and I'm not going to try and read that wall of text again. I think you are upset at the dialog with Shep and your ME1-LI Liara? I think the reall issue here is what a TON of RPG fans don't really get about this series....



You (the player) can influence choices and directions, but in the end it's SHEPHERDS STORY. The guys at Bioware write it, not you. I always chuckle when I hears some RPGer using the term, "MY Shepherd"....

[packardbell]

holy crud it was like reading a short novel, anyway considering how much Bioware have listened to its fans for ME3.



I am fairly sure they know what they're doing.

[Thompson family]

Folks, there’s a whole lot more to Liara than one kissing scene — if:



You complete her second quest

Go talk to her

After she mentions blasting the Shadow Broker until his body can fit “in a coffee cup,” ask where all this anger is coming from.



Everything comes gushing out after that.

[Driveninhifi]

But I still was unable to get to talk about the current status of the relationship and if she actually wants it to continue. Seems like an odd oversight....

[TheSorrow1175]

Agreeing with the original post for this thread, I also can get really roped into these games, emotionally. With that in mind I do hope that there's an opportunity to port over ME2 romances into ME3. None of the ones in ME1 really seemed right, but I guess Bioware really didn't have their character-writing ideas nailed yet. I was pretty interested when I heard that Tali was an LI in this game, cause I always found her to be the most interesting character in ME, aside from Garrus (and now I gotta add Mordin to the list, the guys freaking hilarious). in this game hers character has gotten even more interesting and when you see her on a more personal level she feels like a real person. Since you're all posting in the spoiler thread, I don't think I need to tell you that she has to go through a lot of crap in this game. With all that in mind, I really hope Bioware gives her and Shepard a chance to work out in ME3, because, remembering my emotional attachment to this game, it feels like that at least should go right for her. Sorry about the length of the post, as I said, I feel strongly about this. Bioware FTW, I'm out.

Modifié par TheSorrow1175, 29 janvier 2010 - 09:40 .

[Duvel_Duvel]

Since Liara was your Love-Interest, you actually have the best stuff since she bent heaven and earth to fix the things that happened in the first minutes of the game. It's the deepest and best part of the game, alas Bioware has hidden this information so deeply hardly anyone has seen it.

The way Liara reacts to you fits with what has happened but can only be placed when you know WHY, but yeah.. bioware has hidden it, giving the encounter a strange VERY strange vibe.

But ehmz I'd wager quite a bit of money for the return of Liara for ME3. In ME1 she was just awesome and had tons of fans. In ME2 she's the biggest hidden gem. You bet she will be back with vengeance in ME3.

Modifié par Duvel_Duvel, 29 janvier 2010 - 09:48 .