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[cinderburster]

Aha, I have a feeling Dog will be returning, even as just a cameo. It's not like the Warden can get rid of their pet when they go to Weisshaupt! ... unless, of course, Dog was killed at the beginning of the game and never became a party member.



Liquidcz, I really hope you're right. I really, really do.

[Angelonedge]

BeljoraDien wrote...

Angelonedge wrote...

That's the one where you see a dwarf with red hair for like 5 secs, but I made a dwarf character with red hair (even called him Gimli) and without a close-up or his voice; one can't say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is Oghren.

You didn't make a dwarf that looked like that unless you used a mod because Oghren's hair isn't selectable.

Can we stop grasping at straws now? The only 'argument' left is that Bioware put Oghren in the trailer in order to fool people into thinking it was Oghren then 'surprise' them when they load up the game and it's not. Wow, what an amazing marketing tactic to ****** off people who hate Oghren now then ****** off people who like him later.... Not going to happen.

I'm playing the game on the 360. Seriously everyone is grasping at straws because they see a 5 sec clip of a dwarf that looks like Oghren walking out in a party. Yes, Oghrens beard is unique, but that scene doesn't give you a close or even good glimpse of the dwarf to really tell. If you created a dwarf male, then you would notice that alot of beard choices are similar to Oghren's. I think it's quite clever of Bioware to have that scene done because it's set of threads like this. I'll concede it's Oghren if someone can get a close up of the dwarf's face, or a new soundbite with him saying something; till then just because a dwarf has red hair and a beard doesn't mean it's Oghren.

[Angelonedge]

cinderburster wrote...

Aha, I have a feeling Dog will be returning, even as just a cameo. It's not like the Warden can get rid of their pet when they go to Weisshaupt! ... unless, of course, Dog was killed at the beginning of the game and never became a party member.

Liquidcz, I really hope you're right. I really, really do.

I'm thinking that Bioware really wants you to use/keep Dog because they give you a second chance to get him in the RTO DLC if you let him get killed at the beginning.

[Spazmodian]

If there is only going to be one companion hard coded(not based on previous game play choices) that carries from Origins, then it has to be one that can survive EVERY possible ending and it has to be a character that you MUST use in the plot.



Only two characters fill that; Oghren and Morrigan. Everyone else can either be not picked-up or can be killed somehow.

[Dustangel0000]

Oghren was fun, but would be the last guy I'd want to see again, apart from Zevran.

[Hugmejohnny]

Angelonedge wrote...
I'm playing the game on the 360. Seriously everyone is grasping at straws because they see a 5 sec clip of a dwarf that looks like Oghren walking out in a party. Yes, Oghrens beard is unique, but that scene doesn't give you a close or even good glimpse of the dwarf to really tell. If you created a dwarf male, then you would notice that alot of beard choices are similar to Oghren's. I think it's quite clever of Bioware to have that scene done because it's set of threads like this. I'll concede it's Oghren if someone can get a close up of the dwarf's face, or a new soundbite with him saying something; till then just because a dwarf has red hair and a beard doesn't mean it's Oghren.

Thats the trailer everyone's talking about, about 15 seconds in you see him as clear as day. Unless your watching on a cell phone or other tiny screen. On my sexy <3 HUGE screen I can vouch thats Oghren as clear as day.

[Melchida_L]

Comme on guys, is it really that bad that he is returning?

[errant_knight]

Liquidcz wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...

Querne wrote...

Why shouldn´t people who are disappointed about the choice post it here or in another threads?
That´s something called feedback. You don´t have to take the thread title literally and so there´s no need to close it as soon the first ones post, that they like the dwarf.
Feel free to open a "GREAT, THE MASTER OF PUBERTAL HUMOUR IS BACK" thread. Surely I won´t be bashing him there.

I suppose your right but I still don't see why people are so mean about it. I just don't get why people have to insult things others like. I wasn't a Zevran fan but he has fans and people who like so I wouldn't rip on him even though hes not my cup of tea.

Exactly. There's no reason for that. It's just pointless kicking of sand.

It's called "expressing opinions". It's as pointless as you saying that you're happy that Oghren will be back.

If you can't see the difference between expressing your opinions in a way that's tolerant and considerate of others and expressing yourself without doing so, then I just don't know what to say about that...

[LolaRuns]

If there is only going to be one companion hard coded(not based on previous game play choices) that carries from Origins, then it has to be one that can survive EVERY possible ending and it has to be a character that you MUST use in the plot.



Only two characters fill that; Oghren and Morrigan. Everyone else can either be not picked-up or can be killed somehow.

Excellect point and likely the reason why it might be him if it ends up being him.

Still sad though that you can't pick who's returning :/

[thegreateski]

LolaRuns wrote...

If there is only going to be one companion hard coded(not based on previous game play choices) that carries from Origins, then it has to be one that can survive EVERY possible ending and it has to be a character that you MUST use in the plot.

Only two characters fill that; Oghren and Morrigan. Everyone else can either be not picked-up or can be killed somehow.

Excellect point and likely the reason why it might be him if it ends up being him.
Still sad though that you can't pick who's returning :/

Maybe you can . . . ?

[Hugmejohnny]

LolaRuns wrote...

If there is only going to be one companion hard coded(not based on previous game play choices) that carries from Origins, then it has to be one that can survive EVERY possible ending and it has to be a character that you MUST use in the plot.

Only two characters fill that; Oghren and Morrigan. Everyone else can either be not picked-up or can be killed somehow.

Excellect point and likely the reason why it might be him if it ends up being him.
Still sad though that you can't pick who's returning :/

I wonder if the devs planned that out from the start. It's possible right?

[iOwnDino]

I don't like Oghren that much, I mean he's funny, but he just doen't appeal to me.
I really hope that I actually get to travel with Leliana like I chose in the game..

[iOwnDino]

I don't like Oghren that much, I mean he's funny, but he just doen't appeal to me.
I really hope that I actually get to travel with Leliana like I chose in the game..

[iOwnDino]

double post sry.

[J-all]

FOR THE LAST TIME EVERY CHARACTER CAN BE EITHER PASSED ON KILLED OFF OR ASKED TO LEAVE INCLUDING OGHREN THE OFFICAL GAME GUIDE SAYS THROUGH DIALOGUE CHOICES YOU CAN MAKE OGHREN SO ANGRY THAT HE WILL TRY TO LEAVE IF HIS APPROVAL IS LOW ENOUGH YOU CAN ENGAGE HIM IN COMBAT (OGHREN WILL SURRENDER BEFORE THE END OF COMBAT AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO KILL HIM) SO DO NOT POST ANYMORE OGHREN CANT BE KILLED OR HE IS THE OLNY CHARACTER THAT WANT LEAVE STORIES !!!!

[Angelonedge]

Hugmejohnny wrote...

Angelonedge wrote...
I'm playing the game on the 360. Seriously everyone is grasping at straws because they see a 5 sec clip of a dwarf that looks like Oghren walking out in a party. Yes, Oghrens beard is unique, but that scene doesn't give you a close or even good glimpse of the dwarf to really tell. If you created a dwarf male, then you would notice that alot of beard choices are similar to Oghren's. I think it's quite clever of Bioware to have that scene done because it's set of threads like this. I'll concede it's Oghren if someone can get a close up of the dwarf's face, or a new soundbite with him saying something; till then just because a dwarf has red hair and a beard doesn't mean it's Oghren.

Thats the trailer everyone's talking about, about 15 seconds in you see him as clear as day. Unless your watching on a cell phone or other tiny screen. On my sexy <3 HUGE screen I can vouch thats Oghren as clear as day.

I know, I've watched the trailer a couple of times. And it's a far away shot of a dwarf with red hair. You can't be 100% certain it's Oghren, just a dwarf that looks similar to him. You can't really tell if that's his unique beard, there is a beard similar to that, you can make on your PC dwarf. It's cool if it is, I'm just saying NO ONE can tell for certain.

[thegreateski]

J-all wrote...

FOR THE LAST TIME EVERY CHARACTER CAN BE EITHER PASSED ON KILLED OFF OR ASKED TO LEAVE INCLUDING OGHREN THE OFFICAL GAME GUIDE SAYS THROUGH DIALOGUE CHOICES YOU CAN MAKE OGHREN SO ANGRY THAT HE WILL TRY TO LEAVE IF HIS APPROVAL IS LOW ENOUGH YOU CAN ENGAGE HIM IN COMBAT (OGHREN WILL SURRENDER BEFORE THE END OF COMBAT AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO KILL HIM) SO DO NOT POST ANYMORE OGHREN CANT BE KILLED OR HE IS THE OLNY CHARACTER THAT WANT LEAVE STORIES !!!!

Yeah . . . well . . . your mother!

[Hugmejohnny]

Angelonedge wrote...
I know, I've watched the trailer a couple of times. And it's a far away shot of a dwarf with red hair. You can't be 100% certain it's Oghren, just a dwarf that looks similar to him. You can't really tell if that's his unique beard, there is a beard similar to that, you can make on your PC dwarf. It's cool if it is, I'm just saying NO ONE can tell for certain.

Errr, I really don't want to beat a dead horse here, but that is Oghren. It's certain. I dunno whats up, maybe your screen is small, maybe your not watching in HD. Reguardless that IS oghren. I mean, I got a nice big flat screen, I'm watching it in HD, I can tell you without a doubt it IS oghren. I CAN tell for certain, no doubt at all, no question, that is Oghren. I can't tell you he's the returning chare, I can't tell you his model isn't a placeholder, but I can tell you that is Oghren's model. I can't make it any more clear.

Allright, thats it, last time I'm saying it. The horse is dead and bloody and beheaded and in your bed what have I done.

Modifié par Hugmejohnny, 01 février 2010 - 12:42 .

[Wishpig]

Angelonedge wrote...

Hugmejohnny wrote...

Angelonedge wrote...
I'm playing the game on the 360. Seriously everyone is grasping at straws because they see a 5 sec clip of a dwarf that looks like Oghren walking out in a party. Yes, Oghrens beard is unique, but that scene doesn't give you a close or even good glimpse of the dwarf to really tell. If you created a dwarf male, then you would notice that alot of beard choices are similar to Oghren's. I think it's quite clever of Bioware to have that scene done because it's set of threads like this. I'll concede it's Oghren if someone can get a close up of the dwarf's face, or a new soundbite with him saying something; till then just because a dwarf has red hair and a beard doesn't mean it's Oghren.

Thats the trailer everyone's talking about, about 15 seconds in you see him as clear as day. Unless your watching on a cell phone or other tiny screen. On my sexy <3 HUGE screen I can vouch thats Oghren as clear as day.

I know, I've watched the trailer a couple of times. And it's a far away shot of a dwarf with red hair. You can't be 100% certain it's Oghren, just a dwarf that looks similar to him. You can't really tell if that's his unique beard, there is a beard similar to that, you can make on your PC dwarf. It's cool if it is, I'm just saying NO ONE can tell for certain.

pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/104/1041792/dragon-age-origins-20091103033923448_640w.jpg

Tell me do you see this picture. When you look at this picture do you see Morrigan? You can tell shes Morrigan because she looks like Morrigan and she is wearing Morrigan's unique clothing.

If you do NOT see Morrigan that explains your problem. Your blind.

If you DO see Morrigan then I don't know how your not seeing Oghren, because it's just as clear cut.

[Spazmodian]

J-all wrote...

FOR THE LAST TIME EVERY CHARACTER CAN BE EITHER PASSED ON KILLED OFF OR ASKED TO LEAVE INCLUDING OGHREN THE OFFICAL GAME GUIDE SAYS THROUGH DIALOGUE CHOICES YOU CAN MAKE OGHREN SO ANGRY THAT HE WILL TRY TO LEAVE IF HIS APPROVAL IS LOW ENOUGH YOU CAN ENGAGE HIM IN COMBAT (OGHREN WILL SURRENDER BEFORE THE END OF COMBAT AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO KILL HIM) SO DO NOT POST ANYMORE OGHREN CANT BE KILLED OR HE IS THE OLNY CHARACTER THAT WANT LEAVE STORIES !!!!

Left side of the keyboard, just above the 'Shift' key and below the 'Tab' key.

You can ask any one to leave, that doesn't make them die though.  You can make Morrigan leave just to have her come back for her part near the end.

Can't say I've ever had anyone try to leave because they don't like me.  Several will engage you due to specific choices you make.  I'm not overly concerned with what a game guide says.  Not that Oghren can't be killed but I'm not sure you can even tank his approval enough to get him mad, he's fairly apathetic.  If someone has actually accomplished this please speak up.

[LolaRuns]

Sure you can ask anybody to leave. But they don't die, final death style, from it.

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Modifié par LolaRuns, 01 février 2010 - 01:46 .

[BeljoraDien]

I've never subscribed to the argument that he can't die since all the other arguments are just so much better(like the fact he's IN TWO TRAILERS). But, I do have to say, I don't even know how one would get Oghren's approval to -100 without cheating, so it might aswell be impossible.

If these people who hate him so much are dragging him around the game, doing everything he dislikes... he might, just might, by the end of the game have -100 approval... but now don't you feel like an idiot? You went the whole game with a guy you didn't like, purposely doing evil things to ****** off Oghren. I don't believe for one second anyone actually did this.

You can't cheat then expect the expansion to recognize those cheats when it carries over.



...I just got this weird mental image of a Grey Warden forcing Oghren to watch him kill kittens in unusual ways.

[melkathi]

J-all wrote...

FOR THE LAST TIME EVERY CHARACTER CAN BE EITHER PASSED ON KILLED OFF OR ASKED TO LEAVE INCLUDING OGHREN THE OFFICAL GAME GUIDE SAYS THROUGH DIALOGUE CHOICES YOU CAN MAKE OGHREN SO ANGRY THAT HE WILL TRY TO LEAVE IF HIS APPROVAL IS LOW ENOUGH YOU CAN ENGAGE HIM IN COMBAT (OGHREN WILL SURRENDER BEFORE THE END OF COMBAT AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO KILL HIM) SO DO NOT POST ANYMORE OGHREN CANT BE KILLED OR HE IS THE OLNY CHARACTER THAT WANT LEAVE STORIES !!!!

Did anyone actually read what this person said?
If yes, was it worth reading? Again if yes, mind translating to non-caps for those of us who couldn't bother? :innocent:

Modifié par melkathi, 01 février 2010 - 02:04 .

[TheMadCat]

Something about the official game guide say it's possible to kill Oghren, I really didn't read it all the way through, caps lock is annoying. The only thing I know for a fact is that there is no death epilogue for Oghren, so even if there is an actual option to kill Oghren you did not do a very good job.

[BeljoraDien]

melkathi wrote...

Did anyone actually read what this person said?
If yes, was it worth reading? Again if yes, mind translating to non-caps for those of us who couldn't bother? :innocent:

It just looks like a matrix of ASCII characters at first, but, with the right formulae and some effort, it can be translated into English. As to your question about being worth it though: no.