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I really honestly think..that it won't be Ohgren ..the returning character. :)

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I just hope they've improved his voice acting.



Personally, I would've liked to see Dog (being that I'll be importing my Grey Warden over, it seems fitting I have my beloved pet mabari at my side) or Shale, 'cause some people paid for her and all.



...toolset to the rescue!

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My only problem with Oghren is there aren't 2 more of him, so I can't make an entire party of big, burly bearded dwarves with big-ass 2-handed weapons.

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You know they state "an old favorite" well..how do they know its everyone's favorite? Personally I would choose Alistair, Morrigan, Leiliana etc over Ohgren any day.



Not to say I don't like him, I just honestly don't think its him coming back. I mean the only real thing he seemed interested in was finding his exwife..drinking ale, and the Deep Roads. Other than that..why would he do anything else but hangout in the tavern. Thats my view of him. hehe

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Throwing in my two cents here. Oghren is my favorite companion. The others annoyed me in different ways, the romanceable one being the worst. (Seriously hate Alistair!!) I don't believe me to be two-dimensional at all. During the Orzammar quest he wants to side with Branka because he still loves her but knows she does horrible things. Heck, he even helps you convince her that she's lost it. If you take him on the Andraste's Ashes quest he tells the ghost that he feels regret that he may have driven Branka to the state she was in. I felt for him. Yeah he's a jerk, but that's just the outside. Oghren has layers, like an onion... or an ogre.

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You guys realise there would be an outspoken group of 'slightly peeved' people REGARDLESS of which character they picked, right?



Plenty of people don't like Alistair due to his namby-pambiness. Lots of people dislike Morrigan due to her inappropriately bad disapprovals (she's been known to have the Chaotic Stupid alignment). Lots of people don't like dog because he doesn't interact much.



So, how do YOU know which characters are the most popular?

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"What are people's thoughts? Is there a pro-Oghren lobby out there?"

According to this thread in spoilers forum.. yes.
http://social.biowar...47/index/722436

As for Oghren, Origins is meant to be a dark fantasy game. Oghren breaks that atmosphere for me, hes like a thirteen year old who swiped some booze. If i could kill him it would to save space in the camp.

Everyone else was funnier than him because they often dont *try* to be. I had him at 80% approval one game, did his personal quest viewed his late game dialogue. Seen enough.

The only dwarf that I did like from other bioware games was Kagain in BG1. "Damn forests always filled with pansy elves" Image IPB

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I think we need to ask the question..."Just whose favorite is being chosen to return here" because the rest of us certainly didn't get any imput on that one. :P

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Bibdy wrote...

You guys realise there would be an outspoken group of 'slightly peeved' people REGARDLESS of which character they picked, right?

Plenty of people don't like Alistair due to his namby-pambiness. Lots of people dislike Morrigan due to her inappropriately bad disapprovals (she's been known to have the Chaotic Stupid alignment). Lots of people don't like dog because he doesn't interact much.

So, how do YOU know which characters are the most popular?


Thats exactly my thought, Bibdy..its stated "an old favorite" well WHOSE old favorite.....thats the point.  If its Bioware's old favorite then....its not ours :D

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Feraele wrote...

You know they state "an old favorite" well..how do they know its everyone's favorite? Personally I would choose Alistair, Morrigan, Leiliana etc over Ohgren any day.

Not to say I don't like him, I just honestly don't think its him coming back. I mean the only real thing he seemed interested in was finding his exwife..drinking ale, and the Deep Roads. Other than that..why would he do anything else but hangout in the tavern. Thats my view of him. hehe


I don't see why they don't let you decide who it will be based on what you say to the characters at the end, then people would not be disapointed. I'm personally happy with Oghren, and would happy with anyone else. I loved exploring each character through the several play throughs that I expereienced and learning their story and background. Leiliana seems to be a better fit since we're going to Orlais. But we'll see when it comes out.

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Bryzon wrote...

Feraele wrote...

You know they state "an old favorite" well..how do they know its everyone's favorite? Personally I would choose Alistair, Morrigan, Leiliana etc over Ohgren any day.

Not to say I don't like him, I just honestly don't think its him coming back. I mean the only real thing he seemed interested in was finding his exwife..drinking ale, and the Deep Roads. Other than that..why would he do anything else but hangout in the tavern. Thats my view of him. hehe


I don't see why they don't let you decide who it will be based on what you say to the characters at the end, then people would not be disapointed. I'm personally happy with Oghren, and would happy with anyone else. I loved exploring each character through the several play throughs that I expereienced and learning their story and background. Leiliana seems to be a better fit since we're going to Orlais. But we'll see when it comes out.


1 word: Content. What's the point in generating the character dialogue and interactivity for all 9 characters, when you only intend for the player to use one of them in the expansion?

Its just an expansion, so you really can't expect them to put in the same kind of budget they did into the original and get all of those same voice actors back to recreate dialogue.

Oghren was probably the cheapest Image IPB

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Feraele wrote...

Thats exactly my thought, Bibdy..its stated "an old favorite" well WHOSE old favorite.....thats the point.  If its Bioware's old favorite then....its not ours :D


But, I like him Image IPB

But, then I've got a boner for dwarves in general.

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All he did was make me laugh... and not even close to the amount of laughing Alistair made me do, or Leliana calling Sten softie... (that was priceless)

Lets see... if there was a character I would rather have less then him it would be... it would be... umm... Zevran :P I killed him when he betrayed me anyway so thats not going to happen. ^.^

It should be Leliana since it involves Orlay... and she's my lover D:<

Modifié par Lenimph, 29 janvier 2010 - 05:42 .


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Bryzon wrote...

Feraele wrote...

You know they state "an old favorite" well..how do they know its everyone's favorite? Personally I would choose Alistair, Morrigan, Leiliana etc over Ohgren any day.

Not to say I don't like him, I just honestly don't think its him coming back. I mean the only real thing he seemed interested in was finding his exwife..drinking ale, and the Deep Roads. Other than that..why would he do anything else but hangout in the tavern. Thats my view of him. hehe


I don't see why they don't let you decide who it will be based on what you say to the characters at the end, then people would not be disapointed. I'm personally happy with Oghren, and would happy with anyone else. I loved exploring each character through the several play throughs that I expereienced and learning their story and background. Leiliana seems to be a better fit since we're going to Orlais. But we'll see when it comes out.


We were told we won't get to choose that "old favorite".   Unfortunately.

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Bibdy wrote...

Bryzon wrote...

Feraele wrote...

You know they state "an old favorite" well..how do they know its everyone's favorite? Personally I would choose Alistair, Morrigan, Leiliana etc over Ohgren any day.

Not to say I don't like him, I just honestly don't think its him coming back. I mean the only real thing he seemed interested in was finding his exwife..drinking ale, and the Deep Roads. Other than that..why would he do anything else but hangout in the tavern. Thats my view of him. hehe


I don't see why they don't let you decide who it will be based on what you say to the characters at the end, then people would not be disapointed. I'm personally happy with Oghren, and would happy with anyone else. I loved exploring each character through the several play throughs that I expereienced and learning their story and background. Leiliana seems to be a better fit since we're going to Orlais. But we'll see when it comes out.


1 word: Content. What's the point in generating the character dialogue and interactivity for all 9 characters, when you only intend for the player to use one of them in the expansion?

Its just an expansion, so you really can't expect them to put in the same kind of budget they did into the original and get all of those same voice actors back to recreate dialogue.

Oghren was probably the cheapest Image IPB


You make a good point about why they wouldn't include them all. Overall, I really don't care who's in it, I just know I'll be happy to play my characters again.

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For me, Oghren never felt like a member of the party even when recruited early in the game, it feels more like he was a afterthought, thrown into the game as some type of filler.

I find him to crude to be funny.

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Bibdy wrote...

Bryzon wrote...

Feraele wrote...

You know they state "an old favorite" well..how do they know its everyone's favorite? Personally I would choose Alistair, Morrigan, Leiliana etc over Ohgren any day.

Not to say I don't like him, I just honestly don't think its him coming back. I mean the only real thing he seemed interested in was finding his exwife..drinking ale, and the Deep Roads. Other than that..why would he do anything else but hangout in the tavern. Thats my view of him. hehe


I don't see why they don't let you decide who it will be based on what you say to the characters at the end, then people would not be disapointed. I'm personally happy with Oghren, and would happy with anyone else. I loved exploring each character through the several play throughs that I expereienced and learning their story and background. Leiliana seems to be a better fit since we're going to Orlais. But we'll see when it comes out.


1 word: Content. What's the point in generating the character dialogue and interactivity for all 9 characters, when you only intend for the player to use one of them in the expansion?

Its just an expansion, so you really can't expect them to put in the same kind of budget they did into the original and get all of those same voice actors back to recreate dialogue.

Oghren was probably the cheapest Image IPB


Considering they're reusing more than half the resources from the original game, creating something that's a quarter of the original game's length and almost charging the same amount for the expansion that they did for the game, they better be spending some money on voice actors.

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Uh we aren't going anywhere near Orlais. The new player character is FROM Orlais but they are going to be in Amarathine (or however you spell it)



I WISH we could explore Orlais though dang it.

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Bryzon wrote...
I don't see why they don't let you decide who it will be based on what you say to the characters at the end, then people would not be disapointed. I'm personally happy with Oghren, and would happy with anyone else. I loved exploring each character through the several play throughs that I expereienced and learning their story and background. Leiliana seems to be a better fit since we're going to Orlais. But we'll see when it comes out.


The game won't go to Orlais, you simply get to create an Orlesian Grey Warden if you don't choose to use one from a save game. Its set in Amaranthine which is a Ferelden province.

Lord Phoebus wrote...
Considering they're reusing more than
half the resources from the original game, creating something that's a
quarter of the original game's length


You get to go from level 25 to a level high in the 30s, thats more than a quarter of the original length.

Modifié par Morroian, 29 janvier 2010 - 05:51 .


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Morroian wrote...

You get to go from level 25 to a level high in the 30s, thats more than a quarter of the original length.


Where did you get that from?  They're raising the level cap to 30.  So you may get to gain 5 levels.  The length of the expansion is also unofficially tagged at 15 hours.

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Top party members that should come back, imho:
The two female love interests (by that I mean, the two love interests who ARE female)
Oghren
Shayla (shale returned as a dwarf)
Shale (if she doesn't get turned back)
The dog

Everyone else?  Eh.

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Well people, since this thread became like "who i want to see in the next expansion" i created a poll to see who gets more votes ^_^



http://social.biowar...697/polls/1498/

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I really would rather not see Oghren back in sequel if Bioware does have to pick someone as just the sole companion to join the Warden. I rather see anyone else but him even Leilana, who was another of my least favorite characters, but that's just my opinion. His humor seems to tap dance all over the line between being funny and just plain crude. His chuckle while talking sometimes is distracting.



It's Bioware choice in the end and much like the decisions in the game itself, they can not possibly make everyone happy when they make a decision like deciding who to bring back.

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I really do have a serious case of asschaps right now.

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Morrigan & Alistair top the Grey Warden's poll for wanted returning companion.



My money is on Alistair, since some of the Bioware team had actually mentioned him as a favorite and he carries enough fangirls to get the sales. haha.