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[BeljoraDien]

I'd like to add my 'voice' as one of those who loves Oghren's character. I can't give specifics since this was posted in the no spoiler section(convenient for those who keep asking what's good about Ogrhen) So, very generally, I like the changes his character goes through from beginning to end and the affect the PC has in his return to stability. I based my PC on Joan of Arc who traveled with very morally questionable people and had a profound affect on them in her short life. The Bastard of Orleans comes to mind for Oghren.

I think Oghren will have gone even further down the path to being a respected warrior once again between DAO and Awakening. So I think many more

people will like him in the expansion atleast.

(forgive typoes this time; typing on an iphone)

[Wishpig]

Haerja wrote...

Wishpig wrote...


I didn't call you retarded by any means. I was talkin bout the post right below yours. "You can choose the returning character." Apply a bit o' common sense to that and you'll see why that ain't gonna happen.

i for one wouldn't be surprised if devs are laughing frantically, because everyone's raving about a dumb dwarf=]

You can bet they are! I'm sure they come to these forums to get far more laughs then feedback! If i was a bioware dev I would go to these forums for kicks and other non-offcial forums for real feed-back.

Modifié par Wishpig, 29 janvier 2010 - 04:34 .

[Rogue-Element]

Oghren was good fun, he wouldn't have been the first on my list but still. Fingers crossed for Leliana.

[DKJaigen]

Modifié par DKJaigen, 29 janvier 2010 - 04:49 .

[Tyfreaky]

I'm ok with Ohgren returning. It was kind of hard to talke a liking to him since you got him so very late in the game.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Wishpig wrote...
You can bet they are! I'm sure they come to these forums to get far more laughs then feedback! If i was a bioware dev I would go to these forums for kicks and other non-offcial forums for real feed-back.

I believe the situation is the same in all forums... there are mainly two separate player's branches:

1 - The branch of players who want or hope their romance continue in xpac and  therefore adverse the return of Oghren
2 - The branch of players who don't matter romances and therefore agree to Oghren's return

IMHO this is the real situation... and the only reason for this fiery argue....

[Wompoo]

Love Oghren, best npc party member in the game. I most certainly do not want to make my little drinking partner a Warden... to subject the little guy to a poisonous cocktail which is nothing but slow death (murder and not heroic at all) and serve him up as a sacrificial slab of meat would be pitiful. i would also prefer a new romance option as the ones offered where very forgetable.

Modifié par Wompoo, 29 janvier 2010 - 04:57 .

[Valmy]

Lakmoots wrote...

I don't think I have *ever* seen anyone respond even remotely well to the "returning party member" in Awakening.

I don't think *anyone* wants Oghren as the guy to come back...

In a game full of great personalities and deep emotional investments - he was a 2D cliche thrown in for laughs.

I personally loved how Dwarves were made so they were *not* silly comic reliefs. No beards, plenty of female Dwarves, it was certainly a breath of fresh air.

That was somewhat staled by Oghren.

Now... unless he has some reformed-drinker emotional core that will be a sub plot in DA:A, then I do not think he will be anything other than the comic relief we know - as deep as a packet of chips and a can of pepsi.

As a test... can you think of a character you would prefer *less* than Oghren?

I would prefer Jowan much more, and any other character for that matter, even Dog.

What are people's thoughts? Is there a pro-Oghren lobby out there?

Yeah I think Oghren is great.  He was a very pained man who sought solace in Alchohol and comes out of it to lead an honorable life at the end...at least in my cases.  Very good loyal companion and if he comes back I will be glad to have him and look forward to his continued character developement.

[the666reaper]

well i hate ogen , seriously who the hell want a little dwalf . i want Alister to be back, because he a grey warden , so it perfectly for him to be in the expansion pack not a little dwalf.

[Valmy]

the666reaper wrote...

seriously who the hell want a little dwalf

Lots of people.  Dwarves are awesome...at least in DAO.

[Tyfreaky]

While I really would love a romance continuation, I think Oghren is the best choice for one of your older sidekicks, for the following reasons:



* If you put one love interest in, everyone else gets shafted, and if you think the boards are ugly now? **Shudder**



* Dog while a good companion, would almost always be overshadowed by a gear wearing party member, Most people would probably not add him to a party except for specific boss fights.



* Sten had a hell of a lot of face time in the Origin's. So much in fact that he has mutiple threads with people wanting him to be a romance. If he was in the expansion, there would be some major expectations, and epilogue wise it does not make much sense.



* Wynn: Not going to put in any spoilers. But Yeah would also not make any sense for her to be in the expansion a few "years" later.



* Secret Character: He's way to invested in Felderan. It would pretty much take him being removed from the country to get him to go. Especially if you have to go to Orlais. Do you really see him going willingly?





If you look at that list, that leaves only Shale and Oghren. And again Shale has almost as much face time as any of the other characters.



If you think about it, it really makes the most sense for Oghren to go.

[retr0rganism]

I liked Oghren very much. No-one else was nearly as lighthearted and jocular, two qualities that were much needed in the party dynamic in my opinion.



As for his being a cliche, I have only one thing to say: as cliche-ridden as this game is, the comic relief (the ONLY consistent comic relief, I might add) is that about which you choose to complain?



Sure. Let's have a game full of nothing but creepily devout bards, moral high-ground spinsters and whiny ex-monks. Sounds FUN.

[Zugin]

 I liked Oghren quite a bit. My first playthrough I ended up with my Dwarf noble warrior 2h  berserker/templar, Oghren berserker/champion, Leliana and Morrigan. Deep Roads is my absolutly favourite area in the game so maybe I am biased.
He would work well because he is pretty neutral, he is a friend of the Warden with no real outside agenda except drinking, scoring wenches and getting into trouble in general. He is the type of character that is fun to hangout with, get drunk, have a bar brawl etc.

What I am really curious about is how they will continue the story with a dwarf warden, can not put any spoilers but it's a tricky one..

[GMulryan]

I prefer Oghren, I can't wait for Morrigan to return if ever so the **** can dealt with proper like....<killing blow animation>

[7th_Phoenix]

I think Oghren is a great character, certainly one of the more fun companions and more interesting to talk to. I don't think he had enough lines though... but that's just me.

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

I like Oghren a lot, but I agree that he would be an odd choice as the only party member to carry over.

Every time he's drunk is golden. I especially like it when he claims Dog stole his pants. And then mumbles something about it again after the next, totally unrelated conversation.

Modifié par Spaghetti_Ninja, 29 janvier 2010 - 06:27 .

[Forbathian]

To say that Oghren has no depth is ignoring the entire "Paragon of her kind" quest line ...



Me, I would like DO:A to open with 1 maybe 2 of the original companions, and mini-quests where the Warden can attempt to recruit the remaining members ...

then, you get an explanation in the context of the game as to why any given companion is unavailable ...



... you go looking for Zevran, and find his head on a pike outside the Crow's headquaters ...



... Leliana has returned to the Chantry, and refuses to leave again, clearly disturbed by the fact that Morrigan/Alistair won your heart and not her ...





etc, etc ...

[Halfno]

Ever since Oghren said "By the ****** of my Ancestors" he has been my favorite character. I am definitely excited to see him return.

[Stakis]

i dont dislike oghren, thing is his the last guy i would worry about from the original bunch, his plain simple, i guess the guy who voices him prob owned bioware some work time, might as well move on and realize bioware wont ever make sequels that involve the original cast to evolve in the history.

[d0de]

I would much rather have Oghren over say Sten or Dog.

[J-all]

So what you are all saying is since everyone else has a life and can easily be wrote off because this one is doing this and this one is doing that the loser oghren wins by default cause he's the one not doing anything with his life. He could be the one returning then in that case cause he would only have to beat out the dog. lol I hope the writers are a little more intelligent that to put together a storyline a child could write.







News of the hour drunk wins game spot because we have no imagination.

[TooOldToStillPlayVideoGames]

I just hope it isn't Wynn or Sten that return. I opt to kill them off most of the time.

[TooOldToStillPlayVideoGames]

And have they ever stated that it is a previously playable character that is returning? Anora or Irving could be made into characters.

[retr0rganism]

J-all wrote...

So what you are all saying is since everyone else has a life and can easily be wrote off because this one is doing this and this one is doing that the loser oghren wins by default cause he's the one not doing anything with his life. He could be the one returning then in that case cause he would only have to beat out the dog. lol I hope the writers are a little more intelligent that to put together a storyline a child could write.



News of the hour drunk wins game spot because we have no imagination.

OR, this could be the chance for the writers to flesh out a character they felt was too "flat". Jesus Christ, you people act as though you not only KNOW the identity of the returning character, but also have the amazing precognitive abilities to see precisely how they're going to hurt the narrative.

It's two and a half months away. If speculation makes you that upset, may I suggest you find something more constructive to do?

[Forbathian]

 One thing that I didn't mention is that I'd want to see as many of them as possible return ... 

Oghren in particular, would be at the bottom of my list ...

and weather or not they are available on a given play-through driven by said mini-quests, based on 
the approval rating that your warden had with the character, and potentially others ... 
(assuming that you are continuing from one of your saves)

To say that Oghren has no depth is ignoring the entire "Paragon of her kind" quest line ... 



Me, I would like DO:A to open with 1 maybe 2 of the original companions, and mini-quests where the Warden can attempt to recruit the remaining members ... 

then, you get an explanation in the context of the game as to why any given companion is unavailable ... 



... you go looking for Zevran, and find his head on a pike outside the Crow's headquaters ...



... Leliana has returned to the Chantry, and refuses to leave again, clearly disturbed by the fact that Morrigan/Alistair won your heart and not her ... 





etc, etc ...