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#51
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Honestly, I think I'm going to just go back in to ME1 and have no LI. My FemShep found Kaiden VERY boring, and once I figured out hey, you can have a romance! I got all excited and then CRUSHED because Garrus wasn't an option in ME1. So I opted for blue skin love instead of no love.



When I found out Garrus was romance-able in ME2, I shed only a few tears for Liara (not really) and made it my goal in the game to get him in the sack.



Don't get me started on the anatomy, I'm still trying to brain that.



Regardless! Garrus forever! /waves flag

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THis is serious my last gripe about not having Samara as a love interest. Somebody please explain to me how having a LI with Tali is even possible? She's in a containment suit. Reegar's containment suit was ruptured and the dude said he was swimming in anitbiotics. THe sheer amount of contaminants she'd receive outside the suit would kill her. But a LI with her seems more plausible than with a justicar asari who has forsaken relationships?! Come on!



It's not that I don't like Tali. I find the quarians to be really cool and mysterious. Plus she's an awesome addition to the team. But I can't get the image out of my head of Brock Samson saying, "leave the helmet on."

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Shepard seems like he just wants to secks someone except for Tali. That seemed like a really true romance to me.

Also Jack maybe? Though I don't know, she cries the whole scene and he comforts her so that was a little more than just sex. I guess.



But I'm certain Tali's romance was too serious. They both went far to make sure everything is safe and minimize the risks.

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Yeah, wondering about Kelly and f/f romance myself, had one dinner, then nothing, then she gets kidnapped with the rest of the crew, and then dies. So is there actually a sex scene, or only just inuendo.



But for me, I got two females from ME1 to bring in so my last playthroughs before ME3 comes out will be ne faithful to Liara, and one unfaithful.



My male characters will probably be all unfaithful to Ashley, since I didn't like her anyway, only romanced her just to do it, and actually kinda hoping to get the chance in ME3 of a fight with her. After encountering her on horizon, I really, REALLY wanted to shoot her.

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MaverikVII wrote...

THis is serious my last gripe about not having Samara as a love interest. Somebody please explain to me how having a LI with Tali is even possible? She's in a containment suit. Reegar's containment suit was ruptured and the dude said he was swimming in anitbiotics. THe sheer amount of contaminants she'd receive outside the suit would kill her. But a LI with her seems more plausible than with a justicar asari who has forsaken relationships?! Come on!

It's not that I don't like Tali. I find the quarians to be really cool and mysterious. Plus she's an awesome addition to the team. But I can't get the image out of my head of Brock Samson saying, "leave the helmet on."


Oh wow, I didn't even realize that you couldn't romance Samara.  ;_;  It's getting to the point where they all look the same to me or something.

Also, what about... >.>  A bigger containment suit.  That Shepard can go in with her.  After a thorough decon. XD

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MaverikVII wrote...

THis is serious my last gripe about not having Samara as a love interest. Somebody please explain to me how having a LI with Tali is even possible? She's in a containment suit. Reegar's containment suit was ruptured and the dude said he was swimming in anitbiotics. THe sheer amount of contaminants she'd receive outside the suit would kill her. But a LI with her seems more plausible than with a justicar asari who has forsaken relationships?! Come on!

It's not that I don't like Tali. I find the quarians to be really cool and mysterious. Plus she's an awesome addition to the team. But I can't get the image out of my head of Brock Samson saying, "leave the helmet on."


do the damn story line with her as a LI and you'll find out.. seriously hate it when people post stuff like this before doing it.

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Shepard's motivations in the relationship are ultimately decided by you. I find Miranda's romance fulfilling if you start out mistrusting her and having some animosity between you, and then pursuing her after her loyalty mission. This is opposed to immediately trying to romance her. You can tell Jacob you're interested in her after the second mission (I think), which makes it seem like Shepard is just after her for a fling, not a serious relationship (oddly enough, this is a paragon option).



Also, destroying the base at the end with Miranda in your squad adds a lot, IMO.



I find one of the best things about the new romance plots is how different they are. The ME 1 romances sort of felt like the same plot just with the characters switched around.

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Kyero wrote...

MaverikVII wrote...

THis is serious my last gripe about not having Samara as a love interest. Somebody please explain to me how having a LI with Tali is even possible? She's in a containment suit. Reegar's containment suit was ruptured and the dude said he was swimming in anitbiotics. THe sheer amount of contaminants she'd receive outside the suit would kill her. But a LI with her seems more plausible than with a justicar asari who has forsaken relationships?! Come on!

It's not that I don't like Tali. I find the quarians to be really cool and mysterious. Plus she's an awesome addition to the team. But I can't get the image out of my head of Brock Samson saying, "leave the helmet on."


do the damn story line with her as a LI and you'll find out.. seriously hate it when people post stuff like this before doing it.


No I'm not talking about Morinth. I'm talking about Samara. Big difference

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is tali's LI male shep only or can my female shep get to romance her
I ask this because in ME1 when I first started talking to her I wanted to start a romance but was alittle bummed to find out I couldn't so If i got the chance to change that even with a female character I want to take it

edit- never mind I just found tali's entry in the mass effect wikia she is male sheperd only kinda sucks

Modifié par ninjamaster_255, 30 janvier 2010 - 04:55 .


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Though, by far the funniest thing is after beating the trasher maw, you get a message that 2 females have requested to mate with grunt, and 1 female (krogan) hasrequested to mate with Shepard. Now, that is scary.



MaverikVII wrote...

Kyero wrote...

MaverikVII wrote...

THis is serious my last gripe about not having Samara as a love interest. Somebody please explain to me how having a LI with Tali is even possible? She's in a containment suit. Reegar's containment suit was ruptured and the dude said he was swimming in anitbiotics. THe sheer amount of contaminants she'd receive outside the suit would kill her. But a LI with her seems more plausible than with a justicar asari who has forsaken relationships?! Come on!

It's not that I don't like Tali. I find the quarians to be really cool and mysterious. Plus she's an awesome addition to the team. But I can't get the image out of my head of Brock Samson saying, "leave the helmet on."


do the damn story line with her as a LI and you'll find out.. seriously hate it when people post stuff like this before doing it.


No I'm not talking about Morinth. I'm talking about Samara. Big difference

He's saying do the LI with Tali, its well explained if you question her during the conversation on Quarian mating, in regaurds to how it would be possible to romance a quarian.

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Like ToshiStation38, I found the relationship with Miranda very fulfilling and balanced. I felt like my male Shep was interacting with an equal, both on a physical and psychological level.



And the payoff at the end if you have Miranda on your team when you decide to destroy the collectors base is very satisfying. She ends up justifying your trust and all the effort you put into a relationship with her in a big way.



Some here seem to think just because there's a very prominent physical component to Miranda's relationship, it isn't as deep as one with Tali. I disagree. Sex is just as important in relationships as emotions. It's the balance that makes them great relationships.



Regarding Tali and Jack, I can't help but see them as two little girls who need protection and guidance. I definitely do not see them as psychological equals to Miranda and my male Shepard. To put it simply, I see Jack and Tali as teenagers, while to me Miranda is an adult.

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Ya i seriously think Bioware messed up. I think it is cool though that they added Tali as a LI, she seemed like the only one worth persuing. I mean you even tell miranda that you just want to get laid... and thats the paragon option. and Jack, well I wont even. They just better make your LI have a role in the next ME. I Think they should just let you persue your old intrest instead of adding random new people like they did in ME2

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TUTTUT43 wrote...

Ya i seriously think Bioware messed up. I think it is cool though that they added Tali as a LI, she seemed like the only one worth persuing. I mean you even tell miranda that you just want to get laid... and thats the paragon option. ...


Are you serious? The whole tone of the comment to Miranda is in jest, meaning it's not how you really feel. Hell, she even responds in the same playfull manner. That's what playfull banter between two adults who really like and understand each other sounds like. Neither your comment nor Miranda's reply is meant to be taken literaly.

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I want my Garrus relationship to develop in the third game, so it better not be a "one night" thing. I like Kaidan and all, but Garrus is a badass with a heart of gold, and I can't say no to that.


Ditto. I was pleasantly surprised with how well BioWare handled the Garrus relationship - it would be a shame to twist it into a lame "one night stand", especially since you actually get the impression that Garrus is sincere, if somewhat awkward too (which only made the moment more charming in my mind). It's my favorite Bioware romance to date, in all of the games I've played. 

Garrus for the win. 

Modifié par Faerlyte, 30 janvier 2010 - 06:03 .


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I hope Tali's evolves more in ME3.

Clearly it was not just a fling, Tali and Shepard really had a thing for each other.

Modifié par SkywardDescent, 30 janvier 2010 - 06:03 .


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I agree - to be honest, no other LI has come close to the fulfillment I've gotten from completing Miranda's.



I also don't understand how anyone can say there was depth to the LI's in Mass Effect 1. I'm sorry, but four missions and you're in the sack doesn't make it deep to me. I felt like I had to WORK to get Miranda's trust before anything even happened.



The one thing I am worried about though is the effect it will have on ME3 if you are disloyal. I'm seriously considering doing another run through of ME1 just to make sure it's not something I have to worry about - but if betraying a weak Ashley who called me a traitor is something I'll have to deal with eventually, I'll do it.

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I have to agree, ME1 romances didn't feel like they had any depth.



To me Tali's has the most depth. In ME1, they didn't have so much a romantic relationship, as much as they were good friends. But clearly, as Tali matured, that friendship grew into a romantic relationship, and so we have a talimance in the sequel.



I think the way you see that relationship change was what made it so much more deep.

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To be honest, I didn't see much of a change to Tali - for me, the only variable was the fact that I did know her in ME1.



She still seemed like a child who needed a guardian, to be honest.



Garrus is the one relationship I could respect. Never played a FemShep - and I'm not sure how much of a conversation difference is between the genders in ME1 - but his romance seems like it's one that's built upon the basis that you both have been through hell and back. You've both seen and done things that you regret but knew had to be done.



I know Tali was there when Sovereign attacked - but Tali didn't end up joining a Merc group and watching her whole squad die - or try to get a hollow revenge on someone.



I think on an emotional level - he's more appealing than Tali is. My two cents.

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Rathias0114 wrote...

To be honest, I didn't see much of a change to Tali - for me, the only variable was the fact that I did know her in ME1.

She still seemed like a child who needed a guardian, to be honest.

Garrus is the one relationship I could respect. Never played a FemShep - and I'm not sure how much of a conversation difference is between the genders in ME1 - but his romance seems like it's one that's built upon the basis that you both have been through hell and back. You've both seen and done things that you regret but knew had to be done.

I know Tali was there when Sovereign attacked - but Tali didn't end up joining a Merc group and watching her whole squad die - or try to get a hollow revenge on someone.

I think on an emotional level - he's more appealing than Tali is. My two cents.


Hey, I wasn't trying to bash how you felt. ;)

I suppose that may be the case, but I have never played a femshep, and I never really got to know Garrus all that well.

I felt Tali's relationship was very emotional, I mean, Shepard was there for her even when she found her father dead, he helped her when she was wrongly accused of treason. It clear Shepard really cared for Tali (if you so chose anyways). Not to mention that quarians would usually get a spit in the face by most people, even the slightest gesture of appreciation would probably mean a lot to one.

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I thought the LI in ME2 were good. I ended up trying to get one with Miranda, and had it set up (just waiting for until the final mission). Then Tali joined my group and I decided to start one with her and end it with Miranda. I thought the Tali LI was cool, it was very entrusting how it played out... I was hoping you would be able to see what a Quarian looks like though.



In ME1 I had a LI with Ash and after I found out she wasn't in your partying in ME2 I just went on... It seemed like they kicked the LI from ME1 to ME2 to the curve... I heard that you can keep them going, but what is the fun in that? Mass effect is a great game, and just because of the game play but the story. The LI make the game/story better...



Now will they add the LI and or characters from ME1 to ME3? It will be hard to tell... I believe ME3 will not add many new characters that was the purpose of ME2. You were mainly building a team to take down the threat. I could see them adding some of the ME1 characters back but remember many of them could a been killed depending on how you played ME1 and/or ME2! Adding ME1 characters would take a lot time to add... and if they were killed in your story well it would not even matter...

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Oh, I didn't take any offense - and sorry if I came off a bit brash.



And I agree - I could see where there would be some deeper emotional connection, but like I said - I feel like the relationship with Tali is more of an emotional girl looking for an anchor - if that makes sense, lol.



But I agree with a statement you made earlier - I do hope each LI will evolve more in ME3. I wouldn't mind stealing that retirement home from poor ol' Captain Bailey and settling down with Miranda. ;)

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Sleepy Buddha wrote...

Like ToshiStation38, I found the relationship with Miranda very fulfilling and balanced. I felt like my male Shep was interacting with an equal, both on a physical and psychological level.

And the payoff at the end if you have Miranda on your team when you decide to destroy the collectors base is very satisfying. She ends up justifying your trust and all the effort you put into a relationship with her in a big way.

Some here seem to think just because there's a very prominent physical component to Miranda's relationship, it isn't as deep as one with Tali. I disagree. Sex is just as important in relationships as emotions. It's the balance that makes them great relationships.

Regarding Tali and Jack, I can't help but see them as two little girls who need protection and guidance. I definitely do not see them as psychological equals to Miranda and my male Shepard. To put it simply, I see Jack and Tali as teenagers, while to me Miranda is an adult.


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@Filbert - if you stay loyal to your LI from ME1, you get this really touching scene before you go into the Omega 4 Relay.



Some people consider the LI in ME2 to be a "temptation" to test your loyalty.



I see them as an improvement - Miranda over Ashley any day.

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SkywardDescent wrote...

Rathias0114 wrote...

To be honest, I didn't see much of a change to Tali - for me, the only variable was the fact that I did know her in ME1.

She still seemed like a child who needed a guardian, to be honest.

Garrus is the one relationship I could respect. Never played a FemShep - and I'm not sure how much of a conversation difference is between the genders in ME1 - but his romance seems like it's one that's built upon the basis that you both have been through hell and back. You've both seen and done things that you regret but knew had to be done.

I know Tali was there when Sovereign attacked - but Tali didn't end up joining a Merc group and watching her whole squad die - or try to get a hollow revenge on someone.

I think on an emotional level - he's more appealing than Tali is. My two cents.


Hey, I wasn't trying to bash how you felt. ;)

I suppose that may be the case, but I have never played a femshep, and I never really got to know Garrus all that well.

I felt Tali's relationship was very emotional, I mean, Shepard was there for her even when she found her father dead, he helped her when she was wrongly accused of treason. It clear Shepard really cared for Tali (if you so chose anyways). Not to mention that quarians would usually get a spit in the face by most people, even the slightest gesture of appreciation would probably mean a lot to one.


I can vouch for the fact that the Garrus relationship was very well done too. I was really surprised, and impressed, by how sincere it was - a big improvement upon the first game's LIs. The FemShep/Garrus relationship is built off mutual respect too, which is awesome, because that's the way it should be. Definitely a lot more emotionally than what I'd come to expect. 

I just hope that ME3 does it justice. 

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The LI's in ME2 are there yes, but really really fake it seems. Shep even seems like he just wants ass in his comments and advances haha...And we all pretty much agree Jack is a W**** lol. So it just seems that these characters are there to "distract" you and make you stray from your ME1 LI.

You must be a Renegade, because my Shepherd showed genuine interest when he spoke in my playthrough, and Jack wanted time to process the love, often tellin' me to go away, as she felt vulnerable. In fact, in the love scene I saw, it's not even clear that she and Shepherd actually had sex. It seem like they just made out and cuddled. Kelly said that Jack would respect you more for...well not being an *ss about it and rushing. It was a lot more satisfying than anything in ME1.

Watched your mouth calling people w*****, anyway.

Damn Renegades.

:bandit:

Modifié par LucidStrike, 30 janvier 2010 - 07:17 .