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Not only is the female armour ugly ... it's sexist too!!


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Jacopo Belbo wrote...
 I cannot be the only one who is flabergasted at the lack of equipment variety? 


It would appear that you are, indeed, a flabergast of one.

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Jacopo, I am the same in loving to tinker with equipment options that define my character right down to taking a hit on ac if the helm doesn't look right. TYhe game should have come with more options, and I don't think the toolset should be an excuse to leave that stuff out of the original build, However it is what it is. The fact is there will be great options in a couple of months, making the game highly replayable. What the didnt deliver in equipment, they certainly did in story options, that you just donst see in other games. Just try to enjoy it for what it does deliver, and soon enough you will have the game you were waiting for.

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The fact of the matter is, the game has shipped. They will not be adding in any new armor types until an expansion comes out. So you can spend the next year raging against a brick wall or you can get off your fanny and learn the tools to make some new armors to use on your character.



And then you can thank Bioware for even including the tools that let you do so.

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They could add more armors in DLCs.

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Jacopo Belbo wrote...

Titanmike357 wrote...

Jacopo Belbo wrote...

Titanmike357 wrote...

Jacopo Belbo wrote...

Razcalking1978 wrote...

No, lazy is spending all this time complaining about it when there are modding tools that you could be learning to make your own fashion show.


yes. because obviously if i want more than two styles of light armour i am being too demanding and i should perforce then be expected to get into the toolset and design my own armour before i even finish playing the game once ... uh.  look.  i know you must have family that works for Bioware or something but seriously.  It is ok to think they took a big swing and a miss on the equipment ... really.  They won't take your game away if you say bad things about some parts of the game.  Sheesh.  It is like a DA:O cult up in this place ... all I said was if you are going to bring "the best role playing game ever" to the market you might want to pay some attention to the details of personal equipment and give the game a rich and diverse tapestry from which those of us who like to really personalize our characters can do so ... otherwise you probably aren't the "best RPG ever" ... that is all i am saying ...


here,

http://social.biowar...index.php/Light

count with me now, from left to right.

one, two, three, four, five.
FIVE, YES FIVE, diffrerent styles right there, over the two you claimed, and you are the very person who posted the link.

fail troll is fail.





actually.  you fail. let's read the top shall we "CONCEPT ART" ... that is not what is actually in the game.  It was what their ideas for what to put in the game.  And those 5 choices are all MALE (if you care to read the jpg title while you are over the picture).

In the game there are TWO.  Count the TWO. types of light armour halfway thru so far ... Leather and Studded Leather.  And while they come in a variety of "leveled" materiels ... they still all pretty much look the SAME.  That is not variety ...

Are all of you people really this dense or do none of you care about this sort of thing?  Really?  I cannot be the only one who is flabergasted at the lack of equipment variety? 


http://social.biowar...ded_Leather_Set)_copy.jpg

OH SNAP :o

LOOK HURRY! HURRY, Female leather armor, that does not have a low neck, has a skirt and pants!


yes, it seems you are the only one crying over nothing.:)



OH SNAP.  THAT'S A MALE ELF ... OH  ... SO CLOSE BUT STILL A FAIL!!!


ooops, I stand corrected.

Kudos to you.

but still quit crying about it, go play some thing else ( NWN 1/2 ) untill mods come out, or you make you own.

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Jacopo Belbo wrote...

I refer you to Bioware's own Tome Of Knowledge and the concept/final art for the light armour ...

http://social.biowar...index.php/Light

it looks stupid .. period ... end of story. thank you. goodnight.



So you were aware of this before you bought the game and are still upset over it?

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Reizarvg wrote...

Jacopo Belbo wrote...

nothing says i am a dimwitted douchebag than not realizing that the 'sexist' part of the comment was hyperbole ... the point is it is UGLY!!! nobody wants to wear a skirt (not to meantion leave a very vital upper chest part of their body exposed, what are zevan's collar bones more precious than mine?) .... the point is all of the personal equipment in the game sucks ... it is limited in variety and ugly. at Least NWN had tons of different equipment and looks to said equipment that you could really personalize your character ... you wanted to wear a skirt and cleavage showing breastplate ... fine .. you wanted to be encased head to toe in tight black leather (better to sneak up and kill you with) ... you could do that too ... in this game .... not so much ...

Why not go and play NWN instead and stop whininh about it? This will solve nothing, you're just making yourself look ridiculous.

Actually, why wouldn't the light armour be brown? It's made of ****ing leather. What's wrong with the skirt? As someone else has stated, it's very good protection for the area it covers, alongside it being flexible, which allows for greater maneuverability. It's a little on the short side perhaps, but still.



Ok. I will repeat this slowly for everybody one last time.  There is nothing "wrong" with the leather/skirt outfit if that is what you like.  There is nothing wrong with brown/tan if that is what you like ... what is wrong is that there is ONLY brown ... that there is ONLY the skirt thingy ....

I am not asking for lime green or paisley ... i just wanted soome black/grey armour for a rogue?  really?  is that so much to ask for?   in a game in which i can vary the length of my neck and the height of my ears i cannot get 10 to 20 choices for different looking styles of light armour?  some with skirts and some with just pants?  and maybe a handful of colous other than brown?  really?  this is a monumental ask?

#108
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I think I can sum up the entire artistic and intellectual merit of this thread in four words:



Bongo bongo whoopsie knickers



And now back to playing the damn thing.

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Copyright Theft wrote...

I think I can sum up the entire artistic and intellectual merit of this thread in four words:

Bongo bongo whoopsie knickers

And now back to playing the damn thing.


Heh, very true. Unfortunately, stuck at work, so these forums are the only link I have right now to the game I'm currently obsessed with.

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is that so much to ask for?

Actually, at this point in time, it is too much to ask for. A. It is not in the game. B. The toolset is not available. If there were horses in the game, they would have been dead for a while now, and you'd still be beating them.

Modifié par Eidolonn, 05 novembre 2009 - 06:06 .


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Razcalking1978 wrote...

Copyright Theft wrote...

I think I can sum up the entire artistic and intellectual merit of this thread in four words:

Bongo bongo whoopsie knickers

And now back to playing the damn thing.


Heh, very true. Unfortunately, stuck at work, so these forums are the only link I have right now to the game I'm currently obsessed with.


^^  This.

Man, OP must be super hot in real life.  There is just no way anyone would put up with her otherwise.

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Draelorn wrote...

Jacopo, I am the same in loving to tinker with equipment options that define my character right down to taking a hit on ac if the helm doesn't look right. TYhe game should have come with more options, and I don't think the toolset should be an excuse to leave that stuff out of the original build, However it is what it is. The fact is there will be great options in a couple of months, making the game highly replayable. What the didnt deliver in equipment, they certainly did in story options, that you just donst see in other games. Just try to enjoy it for what it does deliver, and soon enough you will have the game you were waiting for.



thanks.  i am just being a bit sarcastic on here but i really do hate looking at my character and i don't think that is good for my game experience.  the voice acting and characters are top notch.  i have never played a funnier game.  but i like equipment choices.  i like to look a certain way i envision the character not some generic way some fanboy designer envisioned the character.  it is just frustrating because so much of the rest of the game is great.  i mean i get to play a girl with a shaved head and a face tattoo ... very dark and sinister ... and the light tan skirt get up is just ruining my silent death mojo is all ... i mean i am not asking for 1,000 different choices here but some i cannot think that black/grey form fitting bodysuit type leathers is really that outlandish of a concept for a rogue?

and for all for all of the "toolset" folks i am sure i will be getting into it to do just that ... as i always have with NWN1/2 ... but I would like to be able to play thru the game at least one time with "some" diversity and choices that at least somehat fit my idea of an assasin character ... *shrugh* but i guess not ....

but good thing i can pick exactly where i want my ears ...

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Eidolonn wrote...


is that so much to ask for?

This.

Actually, at this point in time, it is too much to ask for. A. It is not in the game. B. The toolset is not available. If there were horses in the game, they would have been dead for a while now, and you'd still be beating them.


I liked having a horse in Oblivion, but in this type of game they'd be annoying and useless.

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Than change you're avatar /end thread

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but be assured if there were horses in the a game you would have your choice of boring plain brown saddle and boring plain brown saddle ... which would be mandatory side saddle for girl characters =)



yes. that was sarcasm people ... just so nobody takes that side saddle thing seriously ...

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McCoder wrote...

this reminds me of the classic Curse of Azure bonds book cover, funniest ever chain shirt

Actually that was placed on her near the end of the book to enable her to be killed, so not as amusing as you'd think.

On other news:
As for the armours being ugly/retarded/<insert other rubbish here>; feel free to turn off Lineage 2 and go take a look at real armour.  Bioware are trying to make this game a believable as they can without putting off the fanbase.  One of those requirements means less fantasy armours in favour of more realism.

Another comment of your's, Belbo, made me chuckle: " you wanted to be encased head to toe in tight black leather (better to sneak up and kill you with)".  Now, I'm not entirely sure whether this is just pig-ignorance, or whether you are actually that stupid.

Tell me, what colour are forests?  In addition, what colour is the night?  The answer to the first is brown & green, the answer to the second is not pitch black.  Black clothing tends to be much darker than night, even those dark ones where the lighting is poor. This can be coupled with the technology to create leather armour, namely the construction of the Burgundian Jack & Boiled Leather.  Look them up; you might learn something.

Now get back into the kitchen! :P

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Have you ever seen a roman armour? They wore skirts. All of them.

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Copyright Theft wrote...

I think I can sum up the entire artistic and intellectual merit of this thread in four words:

Bongo bongo whoopsie knickers

And now back to playing the damn thing.

Hurray! A Yahtzee fan! This thread just got even more fun.

OP, you are hilarious. Really, my evening's just getting better and better. If only i could find my popcorn...

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Illiani wrote...

McCoder wrote...

this reminds me of the classic Curse of Azure bonds book cover, funniest ever chain shirt

Actually that was placed on her near the end of the book to enable her to be killed, so not as amusing as you'd think.

On other news:
As for the armours being ugly/retarded/; feel free to turn off Lineage 2 and go take a look at real armour.  Bioware are trying to make this game a believable as they can without putting off the fanbase.  One of those requirements means less fantasy armours in favour of more realism.

Another comment of your's, Belbo, made me chuckle: " you wanted to be encased head to toe in tight black leather (better to sneak up and kill you with)".  Now, I'm not entirely sure whether this is just pig-ignorance, or whether you are actually that stupid.

Tell me, what colour are forests?  In addition, what colour is the night?  The answer to the first is brown & green, the answer to the second is not pitch black.  Black clothing tends to be much darker than night, even those dark ones where the lighting is poor. This can be coupled with the technology to create leather armour, namely the construction of the Burgundian Jack & Boiled Leather.  Look them up; you might learn something.

Now get back into the kitchen! :P


in other places i used a more detailed description of black/grey than i used in that particular part .. yes ... pitch black would be silly .. but i don't think a black/grey pallate is all that unusual for stelathy characters ... and while i am mostly walking around forests in this game my character that i am trying to create is not a woodsy one so greens and browns are not my thing (and if i were trying to create an outdoorsy type ranger there is a distinct lack of choice there too mind you)

and what is with this "the armour is trying to look realistic" .. uh.  there are dagons in this game ... dragon is even in the name .. so lets put to bed the 'realism' arguments ... this is a fantasy game .... do i care if all of the equipment is medieval certified? no.  i just want some diversity.  and nobody can tell me that those ridiculous oversized weapons are "realistic" ...

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you sir are retardet this is the stupidest thread ever

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Wait, the armour is ugly? Armour isn't supposed to be pretty!

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troll..?

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Elian_BG wrote...

you sir are retardet this is the stupidest thread ever


I picture you saying this out loud and the irony makes me LOL.

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Jacopo Belbo wrote...

Illiani wrote...

McCoder wrote...

this reminds me of the classic Curse of Azure bonds book cover, funniest ever chain shirt

Actually that was placed on her near the end of the book to enable her to be killed, so not as amusing as you'd think.

On other news:
As for the armours being ugly/retarded/; feel free to turn off Lineage 2 and go take a look at real armour.  Bioware are trying to make this game a believable as they can without putting off the fanbase.  One of those requirements means less fantasy armours in favour of more realism.

Another comment of your's, Belbo, made me chuckle: " you wanted to be encased head to toe in tight black leather (better to sneak up and kill you with)".  Now, I'm not entirely sure whether this is just pig-ignorance, or whether you are actually that stupid.

Tell me, what colour are forests?  In addition, what colour is the night?  The answer to the first is brown & green, the answer to the second is not pitch black.  Black clothing tends to be much darker than night, even those dark ones where the lighting is poor. This can be coupled with the technology to create leather armour, namely the construction of the Burgundian Jack & Boiled Leather.  Look them up; you might learn something.

Now get back into the kitchen! :P

and what is with this "the armour is trying to look realistic" .. uh.  there are dagons in this game ... dragon is even in the name .. so lets put to bed the 'realism' arguments ... this is a fantasy game .... do i care if all of the equipment is medieval certified? no.  i just want some diversity.  and nobody can tell me that those ridiculous oversized weapons are "realistic" ...

You're an idiot. Have you been following this game at all? Sure, the game has dragons in it. And yes, it's a fantasy. But it's designed to be a gritty, believable one. It's meant to have a more down to earth feel to it, like you'r in a real, tangible world. One that just happens to contain dragons. This does not mean that the equipment and technology should be bat-**** insane. Calm down and stop moaning.

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OK, I have a solution for you: Take your game back or sell it to a friend, and play NWN. You seen so fond of that game, and not fond of this one. This game is far from perfect, but it has it where it counts. Stop complaining about this nonsense, and play the damn game, enjoy it, or put it away and play something else!