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[PatT2]

Why, oh, why, are there so many cigarettes being smoked and fondled in this game? I am an ex smoker, and it's a hard-won title. In order to play this game I need to have my senses tickled, and my old addiction reminded by watching the Illusive Man and some batarians, among others, twiddling and playing with their pleasure.

What gives? Why this? Drinking would have been better. Anything would have been better. I haven't thought about smoking in months. Until I started this game this week. Sheesh. No, I am not likely to go outside and brave subzero temps to buy cigs (thank you weather) but still, why this? Money?

[Aethelwulf1066]

To make the characters a bit more realistic? You can't tell me no one in the future smokes? I think it fits TIM. Can't remember too many other characters in this smoking. TIM also drinks once or twice.



If you don't like it, skip through the scenes or don't play. Perhaps someone will make a small mod that removes the cigarettes.



As for it being a promotion, I think you're reading too far into it. It adds a bit of realism for me, and maybe it makes the world seem just a little bit more grittier, and less like the perfectly utopian(sp?) world of the first game.

[wsmb0233]

I agree.... I got the itch a lot playing the game too



I don't think it was money though, just who the characters where..... although I do think someone who has obviously spent so much money modding his body would take better care of it..... maybe there's a cure for lung cancer a few centuries from now?

[Pastorbullfrog]

Because it fits their characters. It's unfortunate that it makes avoiding your addiction difficult for you, but I'd guess the same can be said for alcoholics with the quest to get the doctor the brandy (and the resulting light drunkenness) or drug addicts and the use of rave drugs in Samara's loyalty quest. It's unfortunate that this causes difficulty for you, but it's not Bioware's fault that you're sensitive to a particular issue.

[chenDawg]

I can't believe this discussion is actually taking place.

[Joshd21]

So women having sex with men..you have no problem with?

Them talking about drugs...No problem with?

And the whole slavery deal, you're fine with but on smoking Tabcco you do?

Ok, allow me to get serious for a moment. I am still in renegade mental state to use their digolge options. The choice of smoking Tabcco is not uncommon. It first arrived in the Movies, somehow smoking made a person look more cool, blowing a puff of white cloud from their mouth

The small burning of the end of their ciggrate, and the tapping at end of their ciggrate to dust ashes off. Ranged from all types of Persons from Mafia Gangsters, to Hitman. It says I do what, I want. I'm a rebel...while decades before people 

actually believed smoking was good for them untill they discovered the health problems. However though you should know they more then enough promote anti smoking ads, radio etc and combine that with common sense. You know if you want to smoke or not

It's your choice, millions of gamers play games everyday. They see a person blow a guys head off with a shotgun, do millions of games do that in reality? of course not. This game is telling you a storyline, RPG and in this case the mystery head man has decided to smoke

Maybe hes addicted, or he wants to seem mystery. However you can always fast foward part when he is talking if it bothers you that much

[x895771]

the hell is going on, people complained about smoking in Avatar as well, nobody minds when the characters are talking about genocide or how many ways they can kill someone; nobody cares about the brutalities and atrocities that you, as Shepard, can take part in, but 1 person lights a cigarette and all hell breaks loose. What's next? Are fat people that finally lost some weight gonna get angry because a character in a game or movie eats a cheeseburger?

[The_mango55]

I've heard people say they want any movie with smoking in it to receive an automatic R rating.

[Space Shot]

Mass Effect 2 also features animal cruelty, exotic dancing, murder, and worse (in terms of popular morality) but that certainly does not mean that such things are actually being promoted, tobacco included.

[Gerza71]

I'm a non-smoker and I don't mind. As for the original poster don't play Fallout 3 it has smoking as well and I don't mind.

[PatT2]

Man, there's a lot of hate here. I was voicing my opinion. I see there is no shortage of folks around with serious problems empathizing with others.



I didn't say I had no problems with slavery.

Or anything else. I only expressed my concern for this one thing, and mostly, I was just hoping the devs would notice for future use.



Oh, and I have played Fallout 3.



It's not that the other things aren't wrong, or don't bother me, it's just that I've never been an addict to them, so I don't have any issues with seeing them triggering cravings I haven't had in a while.



If you don't like my opinion, heck, there's only a few hundred thousand other posts you can read. If you can't find a way to have some empathy (and there are others who have posted here who obviously do empathize in one way or another), can you just take your hard-heartedness somewhere else? This is my issue and I wanted Bioware to see it. That's all.



Way to flame, some of you.

[agrue]

Someone needs to watch X-Files.

[DFxSOVEREIGN]

Because smoking is badass. ;D

[PatT2]

Whatever.

[Massadonious1]

Who says they haven't cured cancer or taken out the addictive and/or lethal portion of cigarettes by this point in the future.



Maybe it's just recreational now.

[DerkontheForum]

You are far stronger willed then me..... I've tried quitting before and have not. So there for I can see why that would bother ex smokers who are trying to stay an ex. So some of you need to lay off until you are in his/her boots.

[stylepoints]

Guys I am a cancer survivor, honestly. Any time someone in popular media has cancer it makes me angry because I had cancer and it sucks. Please remove anything that could possibly be related to something in real life from media so I don't have to live with myself irl. Thank you.

Modifié par stylepoints, 30 janvier 2010 - 08:49 .

[stylepoints]

Guys I am a former serial killer. I killed dozens of people and hid their bodies around my farm. I stopped killing people but since playing this game I'm tempted to kill people again. I worked hard to stop killing people. Some serial killer conglomerate must have paid bioware to add serial killing to the game. Insensitive bioware.

Modifié par stylepoints, 30 janvier 2010 - 08:50 .

[marshalleck]

PatT2 wrote...

Man, there's a lot of hate here. I was voicing my opinion. I see there is no shortage of folks around with serious problems empathizing with others.

I didn't say I had no problems with slavery.
Or anything else. I only expressed my concern for this one thing, and mostly, I was just hoping the devs would notice for future use.

Oh, and I have played Fallout 3.

It's not that the other things aren't wrong, or don't bother me, it's just that I've never been an addict to them, so I don't have any issues with seeing them triggering cravings I haven't had in a while.

If you don't like my opinion, heck, there's only a few hundred thousand other posts you can read. If you can't find a way to have some empathy (and there are others who have posted here who obviously do empathize in one way or another), can you just take your hard-heartedness somewhere else? This is my issue and I wanted Bioware to see it. That's all.

Way to flame, some of you.

Well what is it you want? You want Bioware to try and anticipate how people may react to any small detail? We'd end up with a very bland, non-descript game if they eliminated anything that could be even remotely controversial.

Honestly I think the issue is not that Bioware are advocating smoking, but rather you have a heightened sensitivity to it. That's something for you to address with yourself, it's not Bioware's responsibility to shield you from your own former vices.

Modifié par marshalleck, 30 janvier 2010 - 08:58 .

[GnusmasTHX]

It would've been easily-won if you didn't start smoking in the first place.



Just saying.

[Lautta]

The first time I saw The Illusive Man and realized how awesome he is, I grabbed my first smoke.



Now I'm a chain smoker.

[Aethelwulf1066]

People smoke. It adds a bit of realism to the characters. It makes the world seem a bit grittier, which is something BW was aiming for.



If they were doing it for money or promotions, you'd see name brands on the cigarettes. Stop reading too far into it.

[Pfor]

Okay guys, from now on nothing that offends anyone. Guns offend me so, you know, we won't be wanting them in ME3.