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#226
jn2002dk

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Copy paste from another thread

Ok, so i think i MAY have solved the issue on my computer at least

I've tried almost everything

Updating every driver imaginable
Reinstalling
Changing various graphics settings
Disabling stuff in the nvidia control panel
Renaming movies

Nothing worked

What i did was
I have 2 x 2GB ram sticks in my computer so as a final desperate attempt, i tried to disable half my ram in Vista, rebooted and started the game

I've just finished playing for 40 minutes with no crash, which is 8 times more than previous attempts
I can't be sure that it's all solved but it seems to work for me

Disabling ram in vista is done by running msconfig->boot->advanced options and setting max memory to half of the total system ram
After this, a reboot is nescessary

Maybe it can help somone else

Note that stress tests of my ram last night, yielded no result so i don't think i have faulty ram but no matter what it is, it seems like it might be solved
 

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recap for anyone listening in on my other comments, i dont know if its linked to engine.. but the core affinity fix that helps in other games works with ME2 aswell, but i havnt tried it with highest settings, though it still looks fine at 1024x768, played for atleast 3 hours with no sign of problems

this affinity fix is as follows, open mass effect 2 via exe, alt+tab out, open task manager, right click the process, go to affinity, then untick "core 1", press ok, then tick it after, and press ok again

p.s. this problem seems to be on dual core systems, i cant see any quad core systems having issues running it

so this is an affinity bug for me, ME2 isnt fully recognising both cores, so it only uses one and is essentially "overloaded", you are all free to try this workaround, feedback too ;)

also apparently you need to do this every time you open ME2

if you cant change affinity as administrator, go into task manager and click "show from all users" or something, this will prompt the run as administrator box, click yes, and now you can change

after using this method i ran at max settings without any issues, so for me this affinity fix works

Modifié par Razir-Samus, 05 février 2010 - 08:17 .


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I tried affinity thing, didnt do much for me. Though if Bioware acually cared to test things out, it would be great if they checked if there is something to it

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mr_luga wrote...

I tried affinity thing, didnt do much for me. Though if Bioware acually cared to test things out, it would be great if they checked if there is something to it


That would require them to stop using all their money to buy really expensive jewels to grind up and snort.

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mr_luga wrote...

I tried affinity thing, didnt do much for me. Though if Bioware acually cared to test things out, it would be great if they checked if there is something to it


and what was your problem? if its not a constant crash on a dual core system then perhaps a startup, there are many workarounds scattered around the net.. i tried a lot of them before the affinity

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No my game freeze up around 5-10 minutes into the game. Around an hour ish if I play in window mode.

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mr_luga wrote...

No my game freeze up around 5-10 minutes into the game. Around an hour ish if I play in window mode.


well if its not overheating then i guess the affinity fix SHOULD work, did you do it in the right order?

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Razir-Samus wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

No my game freeze up around 5-10 minutes into the game. Around an hour ish if I play in window mode.


well if its not overheating then i guess the affinity fix SHOULD work, did you do it in the right order?


I'm a bit reluctant to try to be honest, since all this forced rebooting i've done to my system seems to mess it up.

EDIT: Also, my computer recognized my two cores, seems odd that ME2 would not, considering Bioware blames it on the OS, not the game

Modifié par mr_luga, 05 février 2010 - 10:00 .


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hehe.. i solved my heating issue. to be honest, i assembled my computer few weeks ago little too quick. couldn't wait to get play some kickass games and little noobish mishap happpened :D

Before and after :blush:

Modifié par Skipalong, 05 février 2010 - 10:32 .


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The process affinity fix allowed me to play for about an hour instead of crashing in 5 minutes. It still crashed eventually, but at least I could play for that hour.



Thanks Razir-Samus for highlighting this.

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Unquist wrote...

The process affinity fix allowed me to play for about an hour instead of crashing in 5 minutes. It still crashed eventually, but at least I could play for that hour.

Thanks Razir-Samus for highlighting this.


But that it still crashes makes it a problem and not really a fix :-/ I can go longer in windowed mode but it will eventually freeze up, forcing me to restart the computer. It's not really a good way to play the game.

So far I havent seen any fixes, just ways to increase play time before the games crash/freeze up

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did you tune down settings? i know my rig can handle it, but others might not be in the same position

p.s. this affinity fix worked for me, but not all problems are identical, there are a lot of causes

Modifié par Razir-Samus, 05 février 2010 - 10:50 .


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one900meat wrote...

OK... Here's what I did and it seems to have miraculously fixed the crashing that was happening every 5-15 minutes...  I just got done playing the game for over an hour and it played flawlessly!

In the ME 2 Game Launcher, I changed my Video settings to the essentially minimalist:

Bloom: Default
Film grain: off
Motion blur: off
Dynamic shadows: off
Light: On
Cinematic Lights: 1
Spherical: off
Anisotropic: off
Save/Exit

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Then I renamed these two intro movies so that they didn't play....
/MassEffect 2/BioGame/Movies/
BWlogo.bik
ME_EAsig_720p_v2_raw.bik
Just add something at the beginning or end of the filename.  Probably should keep them regocnizable if you ever want to add them back...

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Then I upgraded my  Audio, Video, and motherboard drivers.
The video did not seem to help.  Neither did the Audio.  The panacea seems to have been the upgrade to my northbridge drivers which updated my USB filters and my NB filters.  I obtained the updates at the AMD website under the motherboard/chipset download drivers section (access right at the front page using a pulldown menu).  Of course, this all could have been a fluke, but it seems mighy suspicious that it worked immediately after updating my MoBo chipset drivers...  My computer specs are:

AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition CPU
Asus M4A78T-E MoBo (790GX chipset)
Onboard Radeon HD 3300 (with 128Mb Sideport)
4Gb OCZ Gold 1600 Memory
Windows Vista 32-bit
DirectX 11
Catalyst 10.1

Let me re-iterate, the magic seemed to have happened when I updated my chipset drivers at AMD/Catalyst.  For those running the AMD 790GX chipset, the link to the Catalyst download page is: HERE
In the "Download Drivers" menu pull-down "motherboard/chipset", your OS, and your onboard Radeon card version (Hd 3300 for 790 GX).  In the page it takes you to, scroll down to the --> Southbridge Drivers download. <-- That link takes you straight to the driver download EXE.  It is for Windows 7 and Vista both 32- and 64-bit.
I hope this helps others!!

Has anyone with a X48 Motherboard try these steps?  I have a Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5 and I downloaded the "Intel INF installation" Chipset drivers 9.1.1.1020 from http://www.gigabyte....64bit#anchor_os.  Well long story short I installed the executable but on the device manager it was still showing the various x38/x48 chipset versions as 6.1.1.x.  Why is this?  Am I getting the wrong drivers?  If anyone can help, thanks in advance.

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Razir-Samus wrote...

did you tune down settings? i know my rig can handle it, but others might not be in the same position

p.s. this affinity fix worked for me, but not all problems are identical, there are a lot of causes


It's silly that I'd have to tune it down considering im above recommended specs, and when I got high settings on, it dosnt lag or anything.  Tuning stuff down to be able to play the game on PC sounds insane. Anyway, I might try the affinity thing tomorrow. Im going to deliver my computer in on monday since all the freezing(and forced reboots as a result) with ME2 has caused my computer to behave all weird.

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mr_luga wrote...

Razir-Samus wrote...

did you tune down settings? i know my rig can handle it, but others might not be in the same position

p.s. this affinity fix worked for me, but not all problems are identical, there are a lot of causes


It's silly that I'd have to tune it down considering im above recommended specs, and when I got high settings on, it dosnt lag or anything.  Tuning stuff down to be able to play the game on PC sounds insane. Anyway, I might try the affinity thing tomorrow. Im going to deliver my computer in on monday since all the freezing(and forced reboots as a result) with ME2 has caused my computer to behave all weird.


indeed it does, i did that just as a precaution when i first changed the affinity, but now ive pumped all the settings to max with no noticable lag, just had a 2 hour session with no crash <3, and dont worry about messing with your pc, its just a simple process edit in the end, its just so the game can "re-recognise" the second core :P so it will use both cores and not just 1

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Razir-Samus wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

Razir-Samus wrote...

did you tune down settings? i know my rig can handle it, but others might not be in the same position

p.s. this affinity fix worked for me, but not all problems are identical, there are a lot of causes


It's silly that I'd have to tune it down considering im above recommended specs, and when I got high settings on, it dosnt lag or anything.  Tuning stuff down to be able to play the game on PC sounds insane. Anyway, I might try the affinity thing tomorrow. Im going to deliver my computer in on monday since all the freezing(and forced reboots as a result) with ME2 has caused my computer to behave all weird.


indeed it does, i did that just as a precaution when i first changed the affinity, but now ive pumped all the settings to max with no noticable lag, just had a 2 hour session with no crash <3, and dont worry about messing with your pc, its just a simple process edit in the end, its just so the game can "re-recognise" the second core :P so it will use both cores and not just 1


This fix does nothing for me. My system has a quad core processor though. 

Modifié par kayronjmGib007, 06 février 2010 - 03:18 .


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Guess I should add that my main desktop computer is also affected by this issue. Mass Effect 2 freezes, completely locking up the system forcing a reboot. Usually anywhere from 2-10 minutes into loading a saved state. Strange screen artifacts sometimes follow accompanied by distorted echo in audio. Tried updating drivers, but no luck.



Desktop system specs are:

Windows 7 (64-bit)

2x 2.66GHz dual-core Intel Xeons

512MB nVidia Geforce 8800 GT

4GB RAM



Later I ended up installing Mass Effect 2 on my MacBook Pro laptop via Boot Camp. It has a similar configuration except for the processor and mobile video chipset. Hasn't had any problems at all.



Laptop specs are:

Windows 7 (64-bit)

2.4GHz dual-core Intel Core 2 Duo

256MB nVidia Geforce 8600M GT

4GB RAM



I repeat, Mass Effect 2 has played just fine on the laptop. Bit slower loading because of the hard disk, but playable at least for the time being. Do miss the desktop though.

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I don't know exactly what I did, but I just got done playing for 2 1/2 hours straight without any issues. This is the order in which I did things. First, I got the got my chipset drivers from Gigabyte (Mobo Maker), then the 10.1 Catalyst Drivers, then installed the ME2 hotfix. Next I set the graphics settings to the minimum as stated in the post on the last page. The last thing I did was ALT+TAB out of ME2 after it loaded to the main menu and did the CPU affinity trick.

I'm not sure what fixed it, but thanks everyone who gave those suggestions! I can finally play =D

Modifié par BPHusker, 06 février 2010 - 04:18 .


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Hopefully Bioware will look into all of this and figure out something from it

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i had this problem and found by disabling teatimer that comes with spyboy S&D fixed it.



When it crashed one time i noticed that teatimer was using a stupid amount or ram. So i disabled it and haven't had an issue since.

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I "fixed" it, too. At least it worked yesterday. What I did: Graphic to a comlete minimum, Disabled NVMixer and spybot S&D (seems like that could have something to do with it, see post above).



And it worked :D Will try it again and see if that really was the problem

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ive got the same problem crashes about ever 10 mins id random spots weird thing is ive checked and every bioware game ive got does the same thing. ME1, ME2, dragon age, bioshock. tried everything i can think of

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up to teir 2 tech support now lol lets see if they know how to fix this

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teatimer hm.. does that run in the background without a tray icon? i think i have that too :P but the core affinity fix worked for me, so i duno..

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Hey,

I was playing this on a friends computer and he had the exact same problem - in fact the furthest he could get was the character creation bit where you can choose your face (after all the cutscenes). The game constantly locked up (black screen or jittered screen with jumping or looped sound). I confirmed that it wasnt an overheating problem on either the gfx card or the cpu. I changed the game to windowed and lowered various graphical options but it still did the same thing.

Then I remembered something I saw before, maybe for the original Mass Effect or maybe for KOTOR. If you go to your display options and remove all themes, reset to the basic windows theme and make sure that things like windows blinds/rainmeter/etc are all turned off then the game works perfectly. I did all that and the game hasnt crashed once since then.

The system in question is a fully patched XP pro, radeon x1950 with latest drivers (nov i think). Removing the themes (resetting to Windows classic) fixed the crashing. No drivers or any other programs were installed between it crashing all the time and not at all. Hope this helps some people.