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[Conquerthecity]

It seems like there's a recruitment in each game. In ME1, you basically made the rachni loyal to you by saving their queen. Even though she wants only peace, I think she and her people will probably see action in ME3. So, with that in mind, I rewrote the Geth. Another potential recruitment against the Reapears.

Though it might come back to bite me...

[Shannara13]

Marco_Alberts wrote...

The whole thing where the memories of the heretics being mingled with the memories of the true geth was what made me decide to blow them up. Can't take any chances that with the two joined they will eventually come to the same conclusion that made the heretics follow the reapers. The fact that Legion even says that the heretics aren't wrong in their conclusion doesn't help.

He just says they are not wrong because the Geth believe that everyone has the right to make thier own choices about thier beliefs.

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

I rewrote them so they can help me in the next game:



Rachni: check (talk to the asari on Illium to learn the Rachni are ready to fight the "dark ones")

Geth: check (hopefully)

?:

[Railstay]

amrose2 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Issue is the geth.. the normal geth have not attacked anyone ((outside the quarians and they attacked first)) they want to simply understand and evolve by there own hands a very.. odd new light over the geth.

What about the Geth that are supposedly acting on their own in ME1, where you get the data disk for Tali? Supposedly staging an invasion or whatever. Were they heretics also? Or maybe just an oversight in canon?

They are the "heretics", who follow Legion.  You have to pay attention to how Legion talks about them.  Heretic is not the same as more neutral words like dissenter or outlier.  It has a much more powerful connotation.  This suggests that the mainline geth find the actions and beliefs of the heretics unacceptable, and Legion also says that the heretics are an extreme minority of the geth.

This means that the geth military that the Citadel has encountered is only a fraction of their true power and development.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Rewrite. But from what I understood from Legion, the Geth will know that they have been rewritten. That might make them antagonistic towards organics. They might help agains the Reapers, but they will not care for organics in the aftermath.

Either choice can be seen as bad. Either commit genocide, or destroy a people's belief and basically manipulate (indocrtinate) them into being allied with you.

[xDYINGxLEGENDx]

I re-wrote them. Legion said "They will isolate themselves and come out of hiding once they have reached a conclusion". Plus if worse comes to worse, I can always blame it on Legion. "How could I have re-wrote you? I'm a HUMAN! Psst, it was the geth over there who did it"

[spuddragg]

I didn't read what anyone said very thouroughly and idk if anyone came to the same conclusion.  But if the geth disagree on the decision what if that just causes another split.  Maybe doing this doesn't really affect the next game in the way everyone is seeming to think.  It seems to me like it will just cause another split and not really matter perhaps?  I could be completely off but i figured i would put my thoughts out there.

[Malinaldin]

If you bring Tali along along she will state "Either way these Geth will not be a problem anymore but...." Later resolving the conflict of Legion stealing data about the Flotila, if you can resolve the issue perhaps that will impact events in ME3. That would be my guess as how the script evolves. Also keep in my mind the mail you get from one of the Flotila admirals after the Tali quest. It states that data was found after the trial and her fathers work will continue....will be fun to see how it pans out.

[stormx2233]

Rewrite, I remember somthing about Shep or someone saying somthing about helping out with the Reapers.

[Chim3ra]

"Destroy, less resources to be used against me later"

[Gibb_Garrus]

I'm a paragon but it is idiotic to re-write them.



1. The heretics make up 5% of the geth population. Hardly going to affect the geth army if they fight the reapers.



2. The heretics can easily go back to their old ideology, like shepard said. And this time potentially recruit more geth than last time.



3. Re-writing them is basically indoctrination, killing them is more ethical



Was an easy choice for me.

[chfdz]

TOBY FLENDERSON wrote...

I rewrote them so they can help me in the next game:

Rachni: check (talk to the asari on Illium to learn the Rachni are ready to fight the "dark ones")
Geth: check (hopefully)
?:

It still doesn't mean Rachni will be helpfull. I let them live too, but what happens if let's say Reapers will find another way to control Rachni. You'd help to build an army for your enemies - we won't  know what happens until ME3. I didn't look at it like that in ME1anyway - i wasn't sparing  the Rachni for a promise of a reward - killing them just seemed unethical. With Geth it's different. If you use all dialogue options during the Legions mission, Shepard will say something like "I would'nt brainwash a sapient race" or "It's just like indoctrination", yet he still gets paragon points for rewriting them. I personally blew them up to hell - that seamed more fair - open strike at them rather than toying with their minds. It could be still a good thing - all sapient races evoved because of the wars beetween them - humans had to spill a lot of blood before they starded to learn new things (take any event you wish, it could be as well the French revolution as the First Contact War). Maybe because of that the Geth will understand us better. Besides Shepard helped Legion after all, beacause he didn't know what to do. The non-heretic Geth could also trust in Shepard's judgement and help him fight the Reapers.

I say this was the hardest decision by moral standpoint in the game, and im not so sure if i'd really give the paragon/renegade points for it because both decisions could be considered to be paragon/renegade ones - it just depeds how you look at it.

Oh, and i really hope you can make something out of this post - English is not my first language.

[PsyrenY]

I chose rewrite.



Best case scenario: The geth stay good, and there are now enough of them to kick some serious Reaper ass, or to help the Quarians rebuild if the heretics are out of commission during the coming battle.

Worst case scenario: It bites me in the ass and gives me a reason to replay ME2, which is an awesome game.



Win/win for me

[MisterDyslexo]

Destroy them. Legion said that for one, they were only a small fraction of the total geth in existence. Legion also said they could come to the same solution later. And we don't know why exactly the followed Sovereign, right? We are told it was religious, but maybe if they're afraid of getting wiped out also, that thought might reoccur. Basically the same reason as Saren maybe.

Besides, its (sorta) unethical. I thought it more as mercy killing. And even moreso, they were all murderers, so they deserved it

Modifié par MisterDyslexo, 22 août 2010 - 06:16 .

[Skyblade012]

Definitely rewrote them. If all goes well, I basically gave therapy to the portion of the geth mind that had fractured to follow the Reapers, and we will have a stronger united whole left, complete with whatever knowledge of the Reapers the heretics gained while working for them.



If it fails, I figure I'll get more missions where I get to slaughter geth, which are easily the most awesome missions in the game, so...



Win-win.

[Super ._. Shepard]

rewrite so they can add you

[khevan]

7 months? Really? Wow, what a necro. I think this just may be a record.



For the record, I'm ambivelant. I can see the pros and cons of each side. I have two playthrus just to see what'll happen with the geth in ME3. In the same vein, the same playthrus also had different decisions with the genophage question, just to see what'll happen with the Krogan in ME3.

[gi0m]

I chose to think like a machine, so throw off all the "this is not right to do such an horrible thing" crap.


Rewrite. Geth will accept the new consensus after the rewrite, so they'll think it's right anyway.
If they're ok with this, I'm ok with this. Brainwashed or not.

New potential allies, or foes. Don't know yet, but it's a chance to take. And by actually saving them mobile platforms to rebuild, and by uniting them, you make them more efficient and powerful so they'll see you more like an ally than an ennemy.

There was nothing really "good" to do anyway. heretics are a threat, it must be eliminated. Let's just do it the manner that'll be the more profitable for both parts.

Modifié par gi0m, 22 août 2010 - 04:52 .

[Rip504]

Sell it. Legion is NOT an individual. If/when you sell Legion,you will have played 2 ME games and never met a peaceful Geth unit. Ever...