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[NickolasDS]

I find it interesting that there is a lot about religion in this series. I'm an atheist, and it doesn't bother me that such things are provoked quite often in the series. I'm actually glad there's a slight option with Ash in ME1 about being a non-believer.

I do enjoy that the Commander never really pushes into either side. Having that neutral feeling is fair ground. It works nicely. I just hope it stays that way and nothing happens in the end of the series, that gives the commander a strong opinionative choice, about believing or not. I don't want to disrespect any believers, so I can't argue the fact that there is so much religious stuff being provoked. I just don't want to have to make anymore choices about believing, like the talk with Ash.

What are your opinions on this matter? If you're a strong athetist, does it bother you?

Modifié par NickolasDS, 29 janvier 2010 - 11:24 .

[Dethateer]

Since no one shoves their religion down my throat, I couldn't care less. They could have added more religion options for Shep, though. Right now it's either atheist or christian during that chat with Ash.

[NickolasDS]

I wouldn't say it's just Christian. I mean, the convo with Ash just seemed... general. So to me, it was just either god or no god, period.

[Irrumare]

The Enkindlers are the true Gods.

[Dethateer]

Yes. All hail the Enkindlers. And obey the Hanar, their holy prophets.

[Zulu_DFA]

I always liked the option to tell Ashley to keep it personal. People are entitled to their superstitions. Sometimes it is funny (preaching hanar). Sometimes it provides extra opportunity to manipulate them (Sovereign & the geth), which is what religion is for afterall.

[Akiada]

I'm agnostic, and don't really care since it's handled very well - you get to decide what your character believes and all that jazz for the most part.



Plus, it's realistic. Space travel and suchlike are more likely to spawn new religions that erase them.

[Dethateer]

Well, considering the fact that the Protheans were real, and actually taught the Hanar something, that's not quite a superstition.

[Surberus]

I loved the Hanar message I got about swimming, and being carried along. Very 'Footprints in the Sand,' which Im certain was the intention.



Tbh, as an active Christian (I'm a church youth leader), I've not really noticed much in the way of religion. But it sounds like some of it has to do with character choices I may or may not have made.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

People are entitled to their superstitions.

Not if they work for me they're not.

[Dethateer]

Surberus wrote...

I loved the Hanar message I got about
swimming, and being carried along. Very 'Footprints in the Sand,' which
Im certain was the intention.

Tbh, as an active Christian (I'm a
church youth leader), I've not really noticed much in the way of
religion. But it sounds like some of it has to do with character
choices I may or may not have made.

Actually, I think that conversation with Ash is the only time religion really gets involved. There is one time on X52 when a dialogue path leads to shep saying something about hitting Balak like the wrath of god if he shows up again, but that doesn't really count.

Modifié par Dethateer, 29 janvier 2010 - 06:57 .

[NickolasDS]

I don't see the human race believing at such a high majority when we reach such technology. The more that science grows, the more people start to realize things that change ideas and ways of thinking. If we take Star Wars as an example, I don't ever recall hearing anything about religion or gods. I don't think I've seen enough outside content, on Star Wars, to know (comics, video games etc.). I'd say that was a smart move on George's part. I just think that there would be less talk of gods and creators at such a peak of exploration.

[Dethateer]

Maybe, but he's got history on his back. To a primitive culture, advanced technology is akin to magic. If, in the ancient times a simple lighter would have instantly elevated one to the rank of demigod...

[RogueAI]

"The light. they always said there would be...light"

Pretty much Bioware telling you about their views on religion from Mass Effect 1. Sleeping with aliens, working with Cerberus, and cheating on your love interest goes against most religions. Therefore, you can make the assumption that Shephard doesn't believe in a god, because he is a god.

[NickolasDS]

Bercilak de Hautdesert wrote...

NickolasDS wrote...

I don't see the human race believing at such a high majority when we reach such technology. The more that science grows, the more people start to realize things that change ideas and ways of thinking. If we take Star Wars as an example, I don't ever recall hearing anything about religion or gods. I don't think I've seen enough outside content, on Star Wars, to know (comics, video games etc.). I'd say that was a smart move on George's part. I just think that there would be less talk of gods and creators at such a peak of exploration.

You, sir, are an optimist.  

Thank you.

Isn't it funny how the whole deal with the reapers is pretty much the idea of gods? I'm just curious how the series will end when so much idealistics of religion are in the story of the reapers.

[Indie Thompson]

I am a Christian and that talk with Ashley in the first game was something i really enjoyed actually.

And yeah, i like that they have put it in the game.

[Itkovian]

If only we could buy a copy of The God Delusion to go alongside the ME books in Shepard's officer.

Itkovian

[Dethateer]

Why? There are people who might not want to read that book. If you did that, you'd be no better than some fundamentalist theists, you'd force them to accept your own ideology.

[Chocolatyshatnr]

Actually if you talk to Physicists many do believe in some sort of creator, something about the the Universe being too perfect for it all to happen by chance......so who knows what we will find out in the future?

That being said I thought it interesting that Shepard, after being dead for  2 years didn't mention anything about "being dead" if there is anyone who knows about an afterlife or lack thereof he should.

[Mr. Beaver]

I'm quite an avid atheist, and no I didn't get disturbed. Except when EDI gave some bible references (I won't give spoilers when) I found it kinda stupid I don't believe it fit the whole situation.

Modifié par Mr. Beaver, 29 janvier 2010 - 07:45 .

[Dethateer]

Chocolatyshatnr wrote...


Actually if you talk to Physicists many do believe in some sort of creator, something about the the Universe being too perfect for it all to happen by chance......so who knows what we will find out in the future?

[Citation needed]

Chocolatyshatnr wrote...
That being said I thought it interesting that Shepard, after being dead for  2 years didn't mention anything about "being dead" if there is anyone who knows about an afterlife or lack thereof he should.

Wasn't he cloned or something? I'm going by a trailer I saw, don't have the game itself yet.