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[Cool Cat 2999]

How do you keep everyone alive, I lost Garrus, Legion and the scientest guy.

[Yakko77]

I think it largely depends on what mission you send them on when the team is getting somewhat split up in the final battle. Certain squad members are better suited to certain tasks.

[MrVincent]

I think it also helps a great deal if they're loyal.

[DrDoom6]

Get all upgrades,though the med upgrade doesn't matter.



Everyone loyal and pick right people for teams and you should be fine.

[dirtypaulie]

I only lost the scientist cuz i sent him in the vents, was told I should have chosen Tali or Legion for that. Zaeed led the 2nd team while I took Garrus & Miranda.



I sent Tali to escort the rescued crew back to the SR2 & heard that some people sent grunt for that.



I designated Jack as the Biotic barrier person, while bringing Grunt & Legion with me & set Garrus as the 2nd team leader.



For the Final I took Grunt & Miranda

[Cool Cat 2999]

I have it now.



I used Tali for the vents, Miranda for both times you need a second team, Samara for the protection through the bugs, and the last two for my team was Legion and the scientist, because one of the last scenes showed him die, so I took him with me. And I sent Zaeed with the survivors of my crew.

[Loerwyn]

I used:

Second team - lead by Miranda all the time.

Samara - Biotic barrier

First unlock - Legion

My team throughout - Garrus & Mordin

Survivors - Grunt.



Zaeed was the only one to die, and that was because I screwed up his loyalty mission. Otherwise everyone survived.

[Narial]

to keep them all alive when you first enter the omega 4 relay - have all ship upgrades



how to keep your tech in the tube alive? i have no idea. i had all chars loyal. tali was SUPER loyal to the point of wanting to share suit time with my fem shepard. yet - took one to the faceplate.



i tried several others and they all took one ot the head if i sent them in the vent. bug?

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Full Loyalty, All Ship Upgrades (except med bay). All squadmate arguments settled with paragon choices. Romanced Tali.

Second team - lead by Garrus all the time.

Samara - Biotic barrier

Door Opener - Legion

My team throughout - Miranda & Mordin

Survivors - Thane

Everyone lived, including crew.

Narial wrote...

to keep them all alive when you first
enter the omega 4 relay - have all ship upgrades

how to keep your
tech in the tube alive? i have no idea. i had all chars loyal. tali was
SUPER loyal to the point of wanting to share suit time with my fem
shepard. yet - took one to the faceplate.

i tried several others
and they all took one ot the head if i sent them in the vent.
bug?

There is a timer that you have to beat when opening up the vents. It should appear as a bar on the lower right side of the screen.

Modifié par Dr. Peter Venkman, 30 janvier 2010 - 01:56 .

[bulldog2012]

Leave nothing to chance...get the upgrades, do the loyalty sidequests. I was paragon, and whenever a fight between two squadmaters occured (Jack and Miranda, Tali and Legion, etc.) I used the charm/paragon conversation option diffuse it.

I had all the characters loyal when I started the final mission and then:

Tubes: Legion...he's basically a terminator (speaking of terminators...ahem) so I figure he can hack anything he needs to.

Second Team (1): Garrus. Just because he's a Turian gangsta.

Second Team (2): Miranda. Basically trying to think of those who've led things before.

Escort Guy: Grunt. No explanation needed.

Biotic: Samara

My team was Grunt and Jacob, then Jacob and Tali. Everyone came out without a scratch.

[bulldog2012]

Double post...

my bad...

Modifié par bulldog2012, 30 janvier 2010 - 01:54 .

[ABCoLD]

Narial wrote...

to keep them all alive when you first enter the omega 4 relay - have all ship upgrades

how to keep your tech in the tube alive? i have no idea. i had all chars loyal. tali was SUPER loyal to the point of wanting to share suit time with my fem shepard. yet - took one to the faceplate.

i tried several others and they all took one ot the head if i sent them in the vent. bug?

The first two times I used Legion, then Tali in the tube, with Zaeed as my second team leader.  Both times they got cacked in the head. 

I finally succeeded by sending Garrus as the leader of the second team instead and using Tali in the tube.

I think that's not the trick to the first part though, I think you have to be sure of one of two things (I'm not sure which it is...)
1.  You have to be absolutely sure you kill all collectors before popping open the final vent lock.
2.  The "Specialist in Danger" health bar that seems to be reset after you open each vent... I think it's secretly cumulative, if the specialist dips down to a quarter of it 4 times, or half twice for example they'll die...

I'm not sure which it is...

[ThatDancingTurian]

I didn't finish the collectors before I hit the final lock. I was too worried for my specialist so I went ahead and did it and figured I could shoot the rest later. I also got through really quickly, with barely any of the bar ticking away before I hit the next one. Nobody died on mine, and I sent Legion on the tech mission.

[cbow52]

I have no idea what i did wrong.



Mordin was the only one to die, i never even used him in any of the final missions.

I had (at least i thought) everyone loyal. is there any reason a character would turn neutral again by something you did? And even if they weren't loyal, would they just randomly die at the end?



I had Legion in the tunnel

Miranda and Jacob as my fire squad leaders

Samara as my biotic barrier

and Zaeed as my escort



i had nearly every weapon upgrade possible considering i played every side mission (searched EVERY planet for them) all ship upgrades (aside from med bay) started the suicide mission at level 29 (finished the game at level 30), and even exhausted every conversation Mordin had avaialbe, he said multiple times how much he's happy to be there.



no clue, anyone got any idea why it happend?

[cpolisch]

Well, everyone lived in mine except the crew and I think that was because I went to do side quests after they had been abducted because I wasn't done with one loyalty mission, so yeah, Chawas was the only one of them that lived. But everyone else died.

I picked Tali for the tunnels, Garrus for the 2nd team, then Jacob for the second other team, Grunt was the escort, Samara was the shield biotic and then Jack and Thane were my final team. None of my actual team died, so I got the achievement.

Modifié par cpolisch, 30 janvier 2010 - 02:20 .

[Keltoris]

I'm torn.



I had all the loyalty quests done but hadn't bothered getting Zaeed. Get Zaeed hoping doing his mission would trigger it and instead I don't get to do his loyalty before the IFF. Now, I have 2 missions to do. But that'll probably screw the crew over. But I won't get the acheivement.



I don't like Zaeed, so I think I'll just do Legion and let Zaeed die.

[ZMJ10]

TECH- Tali



Second team- jacob at first then garrus





Biotic barrier-samara





My team always- grunt miranda





survivers-mordin





NO one died







had

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

First part: Miranda in second squad, Tali in vents.

Second part: Garrus in second squad, Samara as biotic, Jack as crew escort.

Final: Grunt and Legion with me as always.

All survived and all were loyal, missing a few upgrades though.

[agrue]

I kept Miranda - Warp and Overload are just too useful. Well, mostly Warp given that the Collectors don't use shields very frequently and aren't mechanical.



Tried to use Grunt for second team, figured what the hey, the guy was genetically engineered and had his brain dumped full of random crap in order to make him the perfect military commander. Miranda ****ed, but it worked out fine.



Sent Jacob in the pipes first playthrough because it looked like another "Bioware Plot Twist of Doom" i.e. that thing where they give you a box of cute puppies and ask you which one you want to beat to death with a hammer. Jacob's okay and all, but Tali is one of the better written characters in either ME game, and Legion is Legion.



Second, with spoilers, probably send Legion in the pipes. Jacob kept whining about how uncomfortable it was and how he was dying in there any time I slowed down to take my time sniping off the Collectors, maybe a robot will be less of a wimp.

[Pastorbullfrog]

cbow52 wrote...

I have no idea what i did wrong.

Mordin was the only one to die, i never even used him in any of the final missions.
I had (at least i thought) everyone loyal. is there any reason a character would turn neutral again by something you did? And even if they weren't loyal, would they just randomly die at the end?

I had Legion in the tunnel
Miranda and Jacob as my fire squad leaders
Samara as my biotic barrier
and Zaeed as my escort

i had nearly every weapon upgrade possible considering i played every side mission (searched EVERY planet for them) all ship upgrades (aside from med bay) started the suicide mission at level 29 (finished the game at level 30), and even exhausted every conversation Mordin had avaialbe, he said multiple times how much he's happy to be there.

no clue, anyone got any idea why it happend?

Happened to me too.  Take Moradin with you on the final leg of the mission, he's not much of a "hold the line" type guy.

[Wynne]

Upgrade everything except the med bay and get everyone loyal--or take along the two who aren't loyal every single time. That should keep your whole squad alive. Tali and Legion both work for the tech thing to get the door open, Garrus is a good fire squad leader, then possibly Jacob for the second one. Not sure if what you say to them during their missions actually matters, or if anything else does. But I haven't seen problems with that method.



For the crew, it seems to be pretty simple. DON'T get the Reaper IFF signature until AFTER you have done EVERY mission you want to do before you go to the ending. Trust me, just don't do that mission until you're ready to use the Omega 4 relay in every other way. Not sure if their personal quests matter, but I know that matters.

[ABCoLD]

Here's a consideration... Miranda and Mordin at least have people they might kill during their Loyalty Mission (Zaeed too, but who cares about him?)... does anyone know if this might affect if karma bites em on the collector base?



Also, as a side note, had Mordin along with me during the final mission, as I thought there might be super-techie stuff that the super-techie geneticist needed to do (Nope, plant a bomb, go to town with a Collector laser to the eyeball.) He was the one that slid off the platform and I barely saved him. Miranda was with me and got nearly squished by a big chunk of metal, but was fine.

[Talioran]

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

Full Loyalty, All Ship Upgrades (except med bay). All squadmate arguments settled with paragon choices. Romanced Tali.

Second team - lead by Garrus all the time.

Samara - Biotic barrier

Door Opener - Legion

My team throughout - Miranda & Mordin

Survivors - Thane

Everyone lived, including crew.

I did approximately the same thing.
My first playthrough, Legion as the door opener, Garrus as the leader of team 2 (twice), Samara for the biotic barrier. I sent Jacob with the survivors, and used Grunt and Jack as teammates
Worked quite well... Everyone survived, even Kelly

And i can confirm this : you don't need to kill all the collectors before you open the last vent lock... The tech guy (Legion in my case) was in danger... there were too many ennemis... so i just used tactical cloak and rushed to the last button... it worked well... 

Interesting thought  :
I just noticed something... At one point, when you learn about the IFF (or ITF or whatever... don't remember the exact name) you have a choice : either continue your quest on getting a nice team, or go find this IFF-thing. I think it's Jacob who tells you to go straight to the IFF, because you're gonna need it anyway, so you might aswell get it now.

Well well well... if you follow his advice, then you can't save all your crew (Kelly ) AND have your whole team ready for the mission... (if you want to save your crew, you need to head to the Omega 4 relay ASAP after the collectors attacked the Normandy... And the IFF caused the attack...  (And your team is not ready when you have to make the choice : IFF or not IFF ?)

It's all about making the right decision AT THE RIGHT TIME 

Loved this game... so epic... and so satisfying when you manage to save everyone in your first playthrough:wub:

Modifié par Talioran, 30 janvier 2010 - 03:32 .

[ABCoLD]

Talioran wrote...
Well well well... if you follow his advice, then you can't save all your crew (Kelly ) AND have your whole team ready for the mission... (if you want to save your crew, you need to head to the Omega 4 relay ASAP after the collectors attacked the Normandy... And the IFF caused the attack...

It's all about making the right decision AT THE RIGHT TIME 

Loved this game... so epic... and so satisfying when you manage to save everyone in your first playthrough:wub:

Crap... what causes the IFF thing to go active?  What's the story trigger?  My whole crew died and that sucks.   (Other than Chakwas...)

[Keltoris]

What the hell, my first playthough, I did Legion's loyalty and high-tailed it to the Relay. Kelly lives.



Second playthrough, did Legion's loyalty, high-tailed it to the Relay. Kelly dies.