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[themonty72]

Lapis Lazuli wrote...

I've done it with minerals. I know it works if you're an infiltrator. If you have plenty of minerals to waste, then just go retrain your powers and assign max points to your 'operative' power. When you go to talk to Jack (assuming you've dissed her), all the dialogue options will appear. You can smooth it over. Then go retrain your powers back the way you want them. They'll both be loyal.

 Glad I read this to. I sided with Jack because I felt Miranda was in the wrong when they argued. But I felt bad when Miranda was the only one to die in the sucide mission, now  i know what to do to save her... still going to romance Jack for the second time though.

[Confused-Shepard]

I love Miranda's reaction if you take Jack's side. Yes Miranda, all your fans talk about your great ass and how you're a modern, mature and strong woman yet you still act like a petulant child when someone calls you out on your bull****.

Miranda: Neo-Natzi (Or at least German)
Jack: Holocaust Survivor who is a bit disturbed

Yes Miranda, show absolutely NO human sympathy.
I just saw the new Harry Potter, you would have made a great death eater, cold as ice!

Modifié par Confused-Shepard, 16 juillet 2011 - 12:35 .

[Cydoemus]

Thia102 wrote...

Easiest solution. Let Jack and Miranda fight. Build up your paragon by doing all the missions you can (do not do Derelict Reaper). Then go to the tech lab on the Normandy. From there go to the research terminal, to Prototypes, then redistribute your points to all the bottom powers you can. It should majorly boost your paragon from where it was at previously. Then talk to the team mate with the lost loyalty. You should now have the option to choose Paragon and calm them down. Afterwards, you can go back to the tech lab and redistribute your points however you like.

I thought my game was doomed, until I found this trick. I know it was mentioned previously, but I thought I would go a little more in depth with it. Happy gaming! 

This allowed my Soldier to gain and retain Warp Ammo Power quite early... You're my hero, no joke... I was contemplating reverting to an old save to keep from losing MIranda's loyalty or Jack's Warp ammo power for Shepard (the only two things I really wanted to keep).

[Sealy]

I can't import an ME1 character and I thought I was making paragon choices all along but somehow I still didn't have enough, I got squashed duing this forced choice and couldn't get enough paragon points to gain Jacks loyalty. Am I missing points, I usually take the renegade interruption as well as the paragon, anyone have ideas as to which renegade/paragon interruptions can be skipped to get more ppoints down the path you actually want?

[Get Magna Carter]

Fleshdress wrote...

I can't import an ME1 character and I thought I was making paragon choices all along but somehow I still didn't have enough, I got squashed duing this forced choice and couldn't get enough paragon points to gain Jacks loyalty. Am I missing points, I usually take the renegade interruption as well as the paragon, anyone have ideas as to which renegade/paragon interruptions can be skipped to get more ppoints down the path you actually want?

I don't think the renegade interrupts are relevent

Some persuasions are designed to be extremely difficult if not impossible without using tricks
using charm to resolve the Miranda/Jack fight is one of them

It is easier for a Paragon to side with Jack and then charm Miranda alone to win her back (still hard but easier)

The main "trick" is to maximise your "class skill".  This is the ability not linked to a specific power at the bottom of the list (unless you have had "special training" to learn an ally's Loyalty skill -in which case it's just above that).
This gives 2 choices one of which is a 100% bonus to persuasions
With this, I managed to get a choice as to whether to break up the fight with charm or intimidate

[Labrev]

Just came in here to say, everything about this thread is wrong.

Persuation does not depend on how much of the bar is full, is the ratio you have vs. total points available. IE - when you go to the Citadel there is a hypothetical number of paragon/renegade points available to accumulate. Let's say 200 points of both. Your persuation depends on what % of those you have for every place you've visited (ex: Omega, Citadel, Illium) and the % needed depends on situation (most are low, notorious high ones are Jack-Miranda fight, Tali-Legion, Kelham Initimidate, Zaeed Charm).

Little-known fact about Jack-Miranda fight, the sooner you do them consequtively, the more easily you can get the Intimdate option to break it up. Charm is very hard to get unless you're working with a ME1 bonus. On the flip side, Charm is easier to get for the Tali-Legion fight.

[Get Magna Carter]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Just came in here to say, everything about this thread is wrong.

Persuation does not depend on how much of the bar is full, is the ratio you have vs. total points available...

If you look earlier on this thread you'll see Pacifen said that a year ago..

Modifié par Get Magna Carter, 20 novembre 2011 - 02:12 .

[The Grey Ranger]

Yeah, but the game has been out nearly 2 years. Gameplay wise pretty much everything that can be said has been. So any discussion or question is going to rehash old stuff.

[Get Magna Carter]

The Grey Ranger wrote...

Yeah, but the game has been out nearly 2 years. Gameplay wise pretty much everything that can be said has been. So any discussion or question is going to rehash old stuff.

You miss my point
I am saying the statement "everything about this thread" from "Hah yes Reapers" is wrong is itself wrong as there is much on the thread that is right (so "Hahj yes Reapers" is agreeing with something he (or she) said to be wrong - and there are only 3 pages so no excuse for not having read it

(although I did see much worse on one gaming forum..[I didn't realise you could play Chinese Whispers on an internet forum]...) 

the fact that "Hah Yes Reapers" spells persuasion with a t does not add credibility

Modifié par Get Magna Carter, 27 novembre 2011 - 11:58 .

[Westy357]

I want to save Jack and Miranda. On my 3rd try I have the whole crew saved including sweet little Kelly, her death bothered me, she was too nice to be made into pea soup. Jack, Jacob, Legion, and Samara died. One more try before Mass Effect 3 comes out. I'd like to save Jacob too. I don't care about Legion I don't trust him, Samara is an outerspace airhead, her death didn't bother me. I hope I can trade Lizard man (assasin) for Jacob.  

Modifié par Westy357, 01 février 2012 - 07:17 .

[kyuusei]

I don't like siding with anyone. Not just because I can lose loyalty (although it can be regained), but because they SHOULD put aside petty differences until the Collector base thing is over. When you use Intimidate to separate Jack and Miranda, Shepard words this nicely. I wish she was a tad meaner about it though. I prefer her reaction when she Intimidates Tali/Legion.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Miri is my LI, but I use Paragon to resolve the situation.

[Elazul Stice]

anyone ever check if being male or female had anything to do with this, the paragons % and amount answers seem all over the board.