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I don't know if it's only my lack of skill or my perfectionism , but I can't make any dacent-looking human males. Heck, I could even make quite good-looking elf males, but all of my humans end up looking like a balding chimpanzees. Sometimes, when they seem to look alright in Character creator, they just don't look good at all In game.

Any tips on how to make character good-looking enough to not thinking about restart every time I see him in cutscenes?

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Use the preset with the black version of alistars haircut and yellow skin.



Change the skin colour to either tan or white.



Change the eyebrows to thin instead of plucked.



Move the chin up, and make the jaw and chin a bit wider.



Change the mouth so the lips are smaller, and make the mouth less wide.



Change the hair etc to your preference.

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dekkerdave

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Best way is to edit the presets. Find one you like, change some things to make him looking as you like and done!

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In my experience, the hair you chose on your avatar is hard to use with humans for some reason. That particular hair style has a really high hairline on humans. Try one of the other ones if you don't want to look like you're balding.... with a gigantic head of hair.

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I found the second preset useful. For me it was all about lowering the brow and lining up the mouth vertically. Stubble and skin complexion for age. It took me some time because all my human males looked like thugs or peasants.

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This link may be of aid.

Modifié par Tyrax Lightning, 30 janvier 2010 - 04:48 .


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Thanks for tips. I think my problem is that I hate all default human male presets. Only ones I like are the last one and the one with permanent goatee. Though for some reason, I cant get him look younger (being older than you elder brother somewhat ruins the immersion). The others have really deformed features and their skin is either looking too seamless or too old.



I just downloaded mod that changes these presets to better looking ones. So my problem is solved I think.

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Hope I was of help. Posted Image The human chimp mouths definitely make face-making hard. Posted Image

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Thx for the thread. Helped me.

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www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php

Forgot to give link to that mod.. It actually changes female human/elf/dwarf faces too

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My character is very handsome and it only took me 5 minutes to make him. Might be easier to make good looking bald characters since you dont have to deal with a hairline.

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Sabresandiego wrote...

My character is very handsome and it only took me 5 minutes to make him. Might be easier to make good looking bald characters since you dont have to deal with a hairline.

Wow! That is nice work Sabresandiego! Posted Image

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Ye, bald characters are much more easy to make look fine, though I cant stand the clipping between the neck-nape which is on majority of vanilla presets.

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This is how I start out.

Make a general concept. Go into the Character Creator program and experiment with what kind of colour combinations you might want to use. See if you like the look of certain races. General pointers for good conceptual work are gender, race, hair colour, skin colour, skin complexion and tattoos. Contrasting skin and hair colour tend to work well, but the other way around, matching skin and hair colour also gives interesting pictures. Generally, starting with hairstyle isn't the best way to go, since you might be dissatisfied with the effect if has in the end.
Save any interesting concepts you might have had under categorized names like Cont(rast)A, Age51, etc.

Next, go to the presets of the race and gender you have chosen. Set the skin and hair colour up, so that you can see what you are making. If you are making something for the community, it might be wise if you set your PC or TV screen settings to the default, so that the people who will see it have moderately the same look at it you have.
Next, tune the hair style down to relatively short so you have a good look at what you're making here. It's very annoying to discover that the settings you've made work on one face, but not on another with a different hairstyle. Using a bald or short hairstyle gives you less risk.

Next, experiment with the presets you have. What I like to do is create premade models for each race-gender combination, in such a way that I can start designing right away. So, bald. Not pale, slightly tanned, but not black either. Generally, having a standard tattoo applied to each premade model gives you a good feel for that certain changes do to a model. Rigid-lined tattoos are good for this.
Compare the premade-preset models. Pick the one you like best that fits the best with your first concept, and start experimenting.

I might continue later on.

Modifié par Sacredless, 07 février 2010 - 09:23 .


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I like the smurf look for a dwarf

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Jadon92 wrote...

I don't know if it's only my lack of skill or my perfectionism , but I can't make any dacent-looking human males. Heck, I could even make quite good-looking elf males, but all of my humans end up looking like a balding chimpanzees. Sometimes, when they seem to look alright in Character creator, they just don't look good at all In game.

Any tips on how to make character good-looking enough to not thinking about restart every time I see him in cutscenes?


I suggest if you can, use the toolset, you have better access to editing opinons, and especailyl in making new structures of the face, so you can custom is even further in the character creation. I think the good way to make a face is start by making its structure first. In the character creation you can't do that. the toolset allows more flexiblity in face design. Though sadly I understand what you mean, the default faces for the character creator is not that impressive. So of course it be hard to make a decent face. Especially if theres a certain preference/feature you want to see more in your face. For example I like boyishly looking faces on guys. But the default for the males seem to be more kinda squared jaw/chin mucho older lookin faces. Elves have more of a boyish face. But of course the toolset gives you that option to change that if you want to. Though thats just my opinon

PS-- this option I said for the toolset is only for, if you have a PC and you computer can handle it, if not..... well then I say good luck with what you can experiment with, with the Character Creator

Modifié par NoAngel89, 10 février 2010 - 07:37 .


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Sabresandiego wrote...

My character is very handsome and it only took me 5 minutes to make him. Might be easier to make good looking bald characters since you dont have to deal with a hairline.


Ohh I see you got some Alistair bone structure there, nice, despite Alistair boyish attuide, I have to amit he has some good bone structure, that makes the girls go..... well nvm, you get what I mean. If you did that just using the character creator, I say I be impressed, Nicely done man. Like the jawline

Modifié par NoAngel89, 10 février 2010 - 07:51 .


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A new idea has occurred to me. I made a successful Human Female, & how I did it was to turn the Face 90 degrees to the side, (So they look like they're looking to your Right.) & look through the Presets, paying attention to the Mouth. Look for the Mouth with the least amount of 'Chimp Mouth' & use that Preset. Go from there & see what ya can do.



Hope I helped.

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I gave up with males, they always looked silly ;-;

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Tyrax Lightning wrote...

A new idea has occurred to me. I made a successful Human Female, & how I did it was to turn the Face 90 degrees to the side, (So they look like they're looking to your Right.) & look through the Presets, paying attention to the Mouth. Look for the Mouth with the least amount of 'Chimp Mouth' & use that Preset. Go from there & see what ya can do.

Hope I helped.


lol I like to give my characters a slight overbite, it gives them a kinda animeish look, which I think looks good in 3D to me

Modifié par NoAngel89, 11 février 2010 - 07:42 .


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Sinister-starfeesh wrote...

I gave up with males, they always looked silly ;-;


Yeah the Elvish males to me seem the most easy to customize, the others seem to have a default facial feature thats hard to change. Human males with their square chin jaws, and dwarf...... well their..... I like a good challenge lol, but yeah :blink:

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You need to use the toolset. Don't bother with the character creation screen. It's better to do it from the toolset and make your creation a preset to use on the character screen. The toolset is very tricky at first but once you get it down, it's very powerful. The problem with the in-game character generator is that it is very limited...But most importantly it never looks as it does when you actually reach the game because of the dark background. This is why when Bioware released the "character generator" before the release of Dragon Age, nearly 90% of the people were disappointed to see that the character they created never looked the way it should have. But in the toolset, what you see is what you get. And you have much more options to explore.

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The way I made my character was I downloaded a good looking preset on dragon age nexus. I think it was called male hunk or something. Anyways, I used that as a base. Its basically a european based caucasian face with good bone structure. I wanted my character to look more like me, and I am half white and half Pakistani. So what I did was modify the face starting with the eyes to have more almond shaped eyes, change the eye color to brown. I made the jaw as wide as possible because I have a very wide jaw from my dads side who is scottish dutch and german. I made the skin brown like mine, and added a mini goatee. I also changed the nose to have a slight downward curve which is more middle eastern, rather than the ski slope european nose. Aside from a few other changes I didnt change too much. It looks enough like me that I am happy with it.



myspace.com/sabresandiego is me in case you are wondering.

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NoAngel89 wrote...

Sinister-starfeesh wrote...

I gave up with males, they always looked silly ;-;


Yeah the Elvish males to me seem the most easy to customize, the others seem to have a default facial feature thats hard to change. Human males with their square chin jaws, and dwarf...... well their..... I like a good challenge lol, but yeah :blink:

Yup, male dwarves, same thing. Look for Presets that have as little Chimp Mouth as possible. Although Chimp Mouth in small amount is ok on Male Dwarves, since it's plausible for the Dwarf to have some inner hearty eater without getting outta shape.

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Personally, I think decent-looking human males are the easiest... much easier than elves (though that may be mostly because the clipping in the hair and ears on elves drives me nuts).