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[gstommylee]

I had Jack loyal then told her to back off during the miranda-jack argument and she became unloyal. I tried raising the paragon score but the options when i try to talkt o her are still grayed out.  What else do i need to do?

[marshalleck]

Invest in your class skill that raises your Paragon/Renegade score?

[gstommylee]

i can try that.

[LucidStrike]

...WT* did you side against Jack?

Modifié par LucidStrike, 29 janvier 2010 - 11:28 .

[douchebag5000]

I have the same problem, at the Jack/Miranda agruement, I sided with Miranda (I use her more), Then I went to talk to Jack and the options were grayed out, so I raised my paragon to I think full (on my screen it looks like it) and still the paragon option is grayed out, is this some bug or the game wants u to get full paragon?

[Da Mecca]

douchebag5000 wrote...

I have the same problem, at the Jack/Miranda agruement, I sided with Miranda (I use her more), Then I went to talk to Jack and the options were grayed out, so I raised my paragon to I think full (on my screen it looks like it) and still the paragon option is grayed out, is this some bug or the game wants u to get full paragon?

Turns out you need the class specialization with 100% negotiation.


Another reason I miss the old system.

[LucidStrike]

douchebag5000 wrote...
...I sided with Miranda (I use her more)

What's combat gotta do with it? That wasn't what the argument was about. =.=

[marshalleck]

Da Mecca wrote...

douchebag5000 wrote...

I have the same problem, at the Jack/Miranda agruement, I sided with Miranda (I use her more), Then I went to talk to Jack and the options were grayed out, so I raised my paragon to I think full (on my screen it looks like it) and still the paragon option is grayed out, is this some bug or the game wants u to get full paragon?

Turns out you need the class specialization with 100% negotiation.


Another reason I miss the old system.

You mean the old system which had the exact same mechanic, leveling your conversation skills?

Or do you miss the bug exploits that let you raise them for free?

[phossil]

Wait so if I'm an Engineer there's no way to make her loyal?



Also does Miranda lose loyalty if you side with Jack?

[Motion Blue]

Theres an option to side? I chose the paragon dialogue that told them to both STFU and concentrate on the mission and didn't have any loyalty backlash.

[Elessie]

Maybe try wearing the Death Mask with the 10% negotiation bonus? Or inferno armor if you preordered, it has the same bonus.

[JasonPogo]

Wait how do you lvl negotiation?

[ABCoLD]

JasonPogo wrote...

Wait how do you lvl negotiation?

It's a function of your Paragon score... the more you pop your Paragon the more Charm options (negotiation) you get.

Also the Death Mask or the Inferno Armor will do it too...

[Sleepy Buddha]

LucidStrike wrote...

douchebag5000 wrote...
...I sided with Miranda (I use her more)

What's combat gotta do with it? That wasn't what the argument was about. =.=

No, the argument was about how they were both wrong.

Miranda continued to be in denial regarding the crazy **** cerberus was doing, and Jack continued to act like an egotistical jerk as if she had been cerberus' only victim when we find out the other kids had suffered even worst.

I sided with Miranda simply because of the two it's obvious Jack was the one who picked a fight, and if you take Miranda on Jack's loyalty mission, your hear a couple of comments from her where you begin to see she is horrified at the prospect that cerberus might be involved in crap like that.

[ThanatosAngel]

I have this issue too. Of course, I sided with Miranda (romancing her), so now Jack is unwilling to talk and isn't loyal anymore. I am Sentinel with the Guardian specialization, supposedly has full negotiation, and near full paragon, and I STILL can't persuade her. I would really like everyone to survive and I don't want it all to crumble just because of Jack.

[XyleJKH]

I think I am in the same position as well... which sucks. I havent got 100% paragon yet, i am trying. I really want this to end. So 100% paragon will not do it then? Seems a bit... odd

[gstommylee]

ThanatosAngel wrote...

I have this issue too. Of course, I sided with Miranda (romancing her), so now Jack is unwilling to talk and isn't loyal anymore. I am Sentinel with the Guardian specialization, supposedly has full negotiation, and near full paragon, and I STILL can't persuade her. I would really like everyone to survive and I don't want it all to crumble just because of Jack.

I beet the game yesterday and everyone survived. I just didn't use jack in any part of the final mission.

[GtarTravis]

I have a question, if your paragon/renegade charms are grayed out, couldn't you pick to normal neutral option rather than siding with either of them?

[Dasher10]

Do you really need 100% to keep them both loyal and does it have to be paragon? What if you're a renegade?

[ToshiStation38]

This question is asked far too often.

[halO bendeR]

**end of game spoilers -- in case you're still playing**




I'm a bit confused why Jack died in my playthrough.
I thought she was loyal but ended up getting eaten by the swarm during the mission where one of your biotics is shielding you.

The only thing I can think of that went wrong is that I accidentally romanced her along side the character I was trying to romance. She was angry about it but I don't think the computer showed her loyalty being effected.

Modifié par halO bendeR, 30 janvier 2010 - 06:41 .

[Boss Fog]

Meh, I sided with Jack since my Paragon option was greyed out. Miranda is a big bag of boring in my book. Afterwards I went to talk with Miranda and my Paragon option was highlighted so I just regained her loyalty.
 

EDIT* I would recommend siding with Jack if you can't negotiate the situation, it seems Miranda is easier to make loyal again after the fight.

Modifié par TelvanniWarlord, 30 janvier 2010 - 06:41 .

[Branclem]

halO bendeR wrote...

**end of game spoilers -- in case you're still playing**




I'm a bit confused why Jack died in my playthrough.
I thought she was loyal but ended up getting eaten by the swarm during the mission where one of your biotics is shielding you.

The only thing I can think of that went wrong is that I accidentally romanced her along side the character I was trying to romance. I don't recall it impacting her loyalty however.

You may have either picked the wrong character to generate the biotic shield, or they weren't loyal.  The best candidates for the biotic specialist are Jack and Samara.  If they aren't loyal, the shield will fizzle out right before you get to the door and one of your squadmates will be lost.  If they are, they'll gather their power and blast away the swarm so that everyone can get through.

[AK118]

i think she's still loyal. she didn't die in the endgame for me, and you still have her alternate armor.