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[zulu21]

zacrobmer wrote...

So now you are suggesting that the Devs are censoring the posts were people are having issues? Wow, I have some industrial foil in my garage if you want it for your hat.

Is it is possible that there are some errant lines of code causing a handful of specific systems issues, sure it happens with every program out there.

The fact of the matter is that if this game had serious issues these boards would be exploding with complaints. Case in point, DA:O for the first week or so, the tech forums were a mad house. These boards are light for a newly released game especially with the number of copies sold. If you take into consideration the number of "issue" posts which are bumped repeatedly, and get rid of the posts from people who can not read system specs, there really is a very small number of people with issues. The huge majority are purely system related.

I have seen several trends with crashing or games not running.

1) People running Win7 or Vista and have no idea you need to run as administrator to install the game.

2) NTDLL.DLL crashes, this problem appears to has shown up more consistently then any other.

If the people posting about various issues would do what they should and post their system specs and an abridged DxDIAG report, I'm willing to bet there would be more fixes available, or at be able to troubleshoot and workaround the issue.

I can guarantee you one thing, there will not be a patch that fixes an issue based on a "Game will not install, I'm running Vista 32" posts.

LOL, not at all. I'm just saying that if we asked Bioware or EA to turn over the number of people who are experiencing errors they wouldn't give us the numbers. Its quite common for corporations not to release numbers of products that are defective or faulty in someway.

Ive posted my specs and trouble hooted but to no avail. I always install games with administrative rights. I can further guarantee that these crashes are NOT system related.

Modifié par zulu21, 01 février 2010 - 09:46 .

[low8all]

There's no reason to get angry and resort to name calling here Mrs.Dildozer. Just to be clear, Zulu's blanket statement is just that. Some of the problems here are really a problem with the computer - Nobody is saying that all the crashes are due to the computers. So I'm not sure why he feels the need to suggest that. "Ok you people who are claiming this game is not at fault for the crashes are really pissing me off. "

I understand peoples frustration in paying for a game they can't play for whatever reason, and for those people who's computer can't run the game properly. But ultimately that's what it comes down to for most of these crashing issues, their computers cant run the game properly. Regardless of the differences in systems that can't run it, (or conversely, can) a lockup is a lockup, is a lockup - it can be caused by a multitude of different things. Even thought the result is the same, it doesn't mean the fault is. Same thing with BSOD's and the like.

You can have 10 different computer fail playing the game properly and it still won't mean the game is at fault - and to be quite honest, it's not like theres a huge variety of computer options here. Three operating systems, some of which are not updated properly - a handfull of cores and GFX cards, some of which aren't supported, factory OC'ed or custom OC'ed with BIOS settings that never guarantee stability over time and environmental conditions. GFX cards, RAM, PSU, HDD's even motherboard chipsets can all fail or strain under load with another half dozen things in between them that has nothing to do with the game like bad drivers/file corruption, conflicting codecs. Hell I had a secondary drive fail not too long ago and before I realized what was going on, I would have sworn up and down it was my RAM or my MemControler was failing. But nope,. it was just a failing HDD. But the lockups threw me and the result was the same.

Updating drivers does not equal stability. No Nvidia or ATI gamer will contest that.

Yes, an overheating XXX will cause your system to experience issues. be it lockups, reboots etc etc. But that's *not* the game. If a program is requesting 80% of your core(s) and your computer hits its thermal limit and shuts down then it doesn't matter what makes it hit 80%, it will shutdown regardless.

So many people *aren't" experiencing these issues. I think that's where the confusion lies here. As has already been mentioned, those who are, are the vocal minority. IF it was as widespread of a problem as you and others suggest it is, it would be more than obvious as the forums would be a none-stop mass of people posting, it would be on all the gamer review forums and media etc etc.

I'm not suggesting that there aren't a lot of people experiencing problems, of course, but I am saying it's not as widespread as you think it is and hence, not really a problem from the games standpoint.

Modifié par low8all, 01 février 2010 - 09:54 .

[Hinso_Inferno]

Look I'm very happy for the people who aren't having issues but it's really not a very good thing when you can buy a game that your computer meets the required specs for right outta the box, have it install and simply fail to startup without crashing.



Sure the majority of people I'm sure are playing with no issues but the fact that a fair few people are is not really acceptable. Ok so it's not 50% of players probably not even 15% but that doesn't make it any better for those having these issues. I've been looking forward to this game for a long time and for it to simply not launch after install on a decent system is poor.



There are people like us who will go on forums and complain about these things so that they DO get fixed but what about all the people who don't know about going on the forums or don't have net connections/strong ones; they'll just have bought the game to find it doesn't work at all. That's not really a good representation for a game especially when it seems to be entirely random what causes it.



Small bugs are one thing but constant crashes and an inability to even start the game up are another.

[zulu21]

low8all wrote...

There's no reason to get angry and resort to name calling here Mrs.Dildozer. Just to be clear, Zulu's blanket statement is just that. Some of the problems here are really a problem with the computer - Nobody is saying that all the crashes are due to the computers. So I'm not sure why he feels the need to suggest that. "Ok you people who are claiming this game is not at fault for the crashes are really pissing me off. "

It's not a blanket statement. I and others aren't having computer trouble. This game is at fault. Why you can't see that astounds me.

[AvalonTLW]

What i truly dislike about this game in its current state is that i 3-4 times each mission get stuck in the walls.
I run close to a wall or rock, and i start climbing it, with no chance of getting down, so i have to reload.

Also, enemies shoting through a crate? Thats BS.

Those are the two main problems for me at the moment.



Also, if you try to move an ammo that is active to a diff. slot, the game crashes.

[Maufurtado]

Dadvio wrote...

When can we expect to get a patch forr all these woes???  It's clear the game is badly broken.  Please Fix it.  Your loyal customers are anxiously waiting.  Even a date for a patch would be something.

Not broken.

Your computer problem doesn't cut it.

[sticks435]

I'll throw my 2 bits in here. I don't think it's purely the game causing issues. It may
be the game combined with the particular users hardware and/or software
settings or just thier system in general. I'm running an overclocked Q9550, an overclocked GTX260 and
overclocked ram and have no issues at all with the game, so it can't
be purely the game as I stated eariler.

[inkinconnu]

I'm loving ME2, but it's gone and crashed (Mass Effect 2 has Stopped Working) at least 5 times. I'm about 10 hours in. It's not a deal breaker, but it is a bit annoying.



Regardless, this game ROCKS, and I love it. It would be more impressive if it never crashed -- perhaps the ME2 team needs to ask for help from the Dragon Age team :-)

[Hinso_Inferno]

Would just like to point out to those that the game runs on their comps. Yes, well done it does run on your machine. That doesn't mean that its the players computers fault for the game not running. By being entirely the games fault what is meant is not that the game is litterally broken so that it won't run at all. It meants that there are major issues with the games programming that have stopped the game working or are causing lots of crashes with certain things in people's software/hardware.



Yes it'd be related to the person's computer but this is NOT the computers fault. It's poor coding and bugs on the games side. The pcs of the people I see posting here other than a few people easily pass the reccomended specs and people have tried updating drivers and such.

[Tarul Bies]

I also have issues with this game:

- Random Crashes (Not related with temp, I cheked it) during firefights.

- Some tearing in the graphics in specific zones (The Krogan planet, the presidium, Nomad Fleet)

- Shepard walking in mid air.



My system is a i5 with 6gb of ram and a Nvidia GTX275, runing Win7 64bit. Aside from the issues, the game runs perfect most of the time (1080p at max settings). But is anoing when they apear.

[PSUHammer]

zulu21 wrote...
 Hey guys Hammer6767 says we're just "misinformed" nothing is wrong with ME2 at all!

I didn't say that...look closer.