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#951
Xionraserai

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the funny part is

a small 10 seconds video about awakening gets a whole new thread in the announcement forum

but the ps3 version of RTO is nowhere mentioned

even the xbox version got 2 and more official threads in this and the other dao forum



im not mad about the delay itself ... but more about not being informed and left alone with speculations simply not fair

#952
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I'm having a little trouble. It says that I am missing something? That I might need a newer version, But I've only had the game for a week

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I think its pretty clear that this delay is because RTO is broken on Ps3. Sony is not sitting on this title, performing some weeks long arcane "Certification Ritual" that involves forbidden Blood Magic and snorting Pop Rocks....

Why else would BioWare be so silent? They screwed up. The Ps3 copy of the original game struggles to run on my machine (choppy, choppy, stuttery lag-fest) It runs just dandy in SD, but like mud on my HD. I've never had a game run as poorly on my Ps3. 

I imagine the company might be going through a little soul searching right now and probably wondering if it can "continue" to support the Sony platform. 

I frankly wonder if they can as well.

Modifié par vonFurious, 12 février 2010 - 07:29 .


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LadyVaJedi

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The only thing that saddens me is that the ps3 players aren't getting any kind of news dealing with RTO.

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vonFurious

yeah bro I posted on this thread a couple days ago a copy of a conversation with an EA rep where he clearly states that it is Bioware that is at fault and I contacted sony by phone and they confirmed that they are in no way responsible. So

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Mine says I need a newer version?? How do I get a newer version?

** forget it, I just downloaded the patch ** Image IPB

Modifié par chow-hound, 12 février 2010 - 11:24 .


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They better keep supporting the ps3. I just pre-ordered and paid off Awakening today. Im sure they would not stop supporting the ps3 because a lot of people would be outraged,including myself.

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PS3 IS DA BOMB <.< Why do they hate us so....

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Fangirl17 wrote...

They better keep supporting the ps3. I just pre-ordered and paid off Awakening today. Im sure they would not stop supporting the ps3 because a lot of people would be outraged,including myself.


I really mean no disrespect in this post but to be honest I dont think they  care if people are outraged thats what 90% of the posts here are about the lack of concern from these people. 

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But they would lose the costomers they gained when they put thier game on ps3.

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I don't care anymore. If BioWare wants to play favorites and scew us PS3 owners. Let them. I took my name off the pre-order list for Awakening and got my money back.I just might get rid of Dragon Age all together. I think I'll put it towards Final Fantasy 13 Versus. At least Square Enix is honest

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This is exacly the same thing that happened with Bethesda and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Both the PC and XBox 360 got great DLC while those with the PS3 get nothing. Especially if they had bought the Game of the Year Edition. And now it looks like BioWare will be doing the same thing. And as before I will eventually grow tired of it and move on to another game such as Final Fantasy XIII in March. Sad.

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This does sound like bethesda all over again but I really think bioware will come through in the end. I will take them at their word it's in Sonys hands but dam any offical word would be appreciated. But it's getting like a pizza that's 5 hrs late and the delivery guy still wants a tip.

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Phosphorus213

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Strykzilla wrote...

This does sound like bethesda all over again but I really think bioware will come through in the end. I will take them at their word it's in Sonys hands but dam any offical word would be appreciated. But it's getting like a pizza that's 5 hrs late and the delivery guy still wants a tip.


bro did you not see my link to a conversation with an official EA rep and he states clearly that it is Bioware and I called sony direct and they stated that they have nothing to do with it.  There is no reason for sony to create outrage on thier own platform just wouldnt make any since.  EA rep flat out admitted its bioware for sure.

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Phosphorus213 wrote...

Strykzilla wrote...

This does sound like bethesda all over again but I really think bioware will come through in the end. I will take them at their word it's in Sonys hands but dam any offical word would be appreciated. But it's getting like a pizza that's 5 hrs late and the delivery guy still wants a tip.


bro did you not see my link to a conversation with an official EA rep and he states clearly that it is Bioware and I called sony direct and they stated that they have nothing to do with it.  There is no reason for sony to create outrage on thier own platform just wouldnt make any since.  EA rep flat out admitted its bioware for sure.



Then EA better bring the heat down on BioWare or put someone in charge who can stay on top of things because this is B.S. 

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I read a lot of topics that says :" I won't buy awakening, I'll give back DAO", but what I really think is that DAO is one of the best RPG games I ever played, what I have to say is that I read on web about RtO and it seems that is a poor content, that can be done in not so much time and reuses most of ambientations of the original games. I read also on a game news site that they should simply make a direct download of Calain's Armor since this expansion is not as good.

So are we sure that the lacking of RtO on ps3 is a bad thing ?



Another thing I don't like, but this is another thing and I should blame on PSN, is that :

I'm an European citizen and 1€ is about 1.5 $ , why if an expansion costs 5 $ in USA should I pay it 5 € ? The same thing is for games.

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Xionraserai

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for that i wished an answer too ... sadly bioware cant give it since they dont make the prices so no blame there ... but it really sucks ... it means european ppl always pay much more than other countries and the most sadest point on it is atleast i think so is that europe is besides america and china the kontinent with the biggest consumption of games
i dont know this exactly please correct me if im wrong but i think it could be THE nr 1 kontinent in purchasing games coz USA ppl earn less then europes and have to pay much more by themselves such as stuff when they get sick or so its theyr system
same with china i dunno what chinese ppl earn but i dont believe they got more money for "luxury" stuff like the euopeans do ... + i think the european mentality on buying stuff "they dont really need" is way higher as it is in china or USA

i might be wrong but i think based on that the european ppl are the best option to squeeze money out .... only other point is USA and China have way more ppl than europe
simple math
if you have 1000 ppl from each kontinent it seems to look like that:
600 out of 1000 europes buy games
400 out of 1000 chinese buy games
500 out of 1000 USA buy games
of course USA and china have way more ppl in the kontinent .... well i hope someone can follow on what i wanna say >.<

Modifié par Xionraserai, 13 février 2010 - 09:01 .


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People, this is about the PC release. It's not a place to moan and gripe about the PS3 release, which they are still working on.  I don't think I need remind anyone just how different coding across PC/Xbox360/PS3 platforms is, nor how difficult it really is considering how relatively new the PS3 Archetecture is. Like the PC users, the PS3 useres will just have to wait. Admittedly, it does seem a little bit unfair that they couldn't delegate dev time and get them out on the same day. I'm not totally unsympathetic, I just know how hard things like this can be.

"More money for luxury stuff like the Europeans do"?  What world do you live in?  The entire world economy is still screwed.  But it does seem slightly rediculous that we have to pay more for the exact same thing that the US gets.  Right now the € is trading at $1.36 about, from which $5 translates as €3.67.  I'd personally like this clear oversight rectified.  They're not just "scewing" PS3 users, they're "scewing" European players in general with this little scam.

Modifié par Squeelookle, 13 février 2010 - 10:05 .


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I can't imagine why Bioware doesn't have a PS3 thread up anyways, except to minimize the black eye.



PS- The chinese pay LESS for most video games/software then americans or euros do, one of the many reasons mmorpg farming is a viable business there. The euro gets jacked almost across the board with amenities...movies,games,comics,etc.

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Xionraserai

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agreed this is the pc thread but

1. the pc version is already out so this thread is "useless" to pc users now

2. ps3 got no own thread so its no shame to use this one



what dhaise said is what i meant ... the companies (movie, games, music etc.) takes the most advantage out of the europeans coz they pay and buy the most

if all europeans would suddenly completely stop buying games, dvds, bue rays and cds. all those companies would loose a lot of money and some of them would have to close their buisiness coz the main-money comes from europeans

its just not fair



and about "more money for luxury stuff..." what i meant was the mentality of the countries (kontinents) for example the americans they have no social help system like germany has, getting money when no job, getting hospital bills payd, etc... americans afaik have to pay for all that themselves so i.e. they have less money for "luxury" stuff like games and dvds....

about chinese i dont know their social system but afaik chinese ppl are minimalistic people not "throwing their money out of the window" like for example germans do

if a german (or european) want something they just buy it ... in chinese i believe they think about it "do i really need this now" and then decide to buy or not to buy

other countrys other mentalitys ... i didnt mean to insult anyone or say a country is poorer as the other they just have other "buying-mentality"

hope that brings a little light into what i said

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greywolf84 wrote...

I don't care anymore. If BioWare wants to play favorites and scew us PS3 owners. Let them. I took my name off the pre-order list for Awakening and got my money back.I just might get rid of Dragon Age all together. I think I'll put it towards Final Fantasy 13 Versus. At least Square Enix is honest


Apparently you don't play FFXI; there's plenty of shadiness over at S-E.

In any event, honestly no amount of complaining anyone does is going to make RtO come out any faster for PS3. It will come out when it comes out. Honestly the bigger issue is going to end up being how much people still waiting have built the dlc up in their minds, and how disappointed they will be when it's not earth shattering, and amazing.

It's a good add-on. It's an add-on, though; not essential to the game. No amount of complaining on this thread or any other will make it come out faster. All I can really offer is the advice to play something else, or find another thing to think about until it does come out.

Additionally, it is quite insulting to have your integrity questioned constantly. It's also very unappealing to constantly be the target of disrespect from people who seemingly have nothing better to do but to hop on forums and type out insults for 8 hours a day. Perhaps the reason that users aren't receiving up-to-the-second updates on RtO is that it's quite obvious that nothing Bioware says, short of "Sony has approved the dlc, buy it today!" does anything aside fuel anger, insults, disrespect, and conspiracy theories. No matter what they say, not everyone is going to be happy with it... maybe it's time to just give it a rest and accept that no matter what you say here, it will come out when Sony + Bioware are both ready for it to be released.

That's my 2 cents anyway. Carry on.

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Stop your b*tchin! We all know dlc is always later and takes longer to fix on the ps3... cause it sucks and the focus the majority of their attention on platforms where the game will work properly and have a larger fan base. Not to mention Mass effect 2 put dragon age at the back for the while. Anyways... first thing you need to do, throw out your ps3 and invest in a decent computer.

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Xionraserai

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@judge(im tempted to write "fudge" now) Overdose

your right it doesnt help anything, but isnt it the right of the fans to be kept informed on whats going on? most ppl here dont complain about the dlc itself anymore its about letting stood in the rain without anything but silence
its correct that it cant be changed anyway and that it will be out when its out, but just a few simple words all 2 - 3 days would have been nice and kept ppl on ease ... but just being silent isnt the correct way to go imo
and even now that ppl have started to insult the company itself and starting a revolte against bioware they remain silent and dont even try to keep their trust and calm ppl down ... this the only thing i dont understand, it feels like they dont care and thats exactly the point which makes the ppl so angry

@ gezzy

if they would have done it with the pc version you wouldnt say that now, if you cant understand whats happening and what concerns the ppl then you shouldnt be insulting

Modifié par Xionraserai, 13 février 2010 - 02:02 .


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LadyVaJedi

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The main thing I want to know what in the world is talking so darn long for the PS3 version of RTO

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until now the rto for ps3 is not is not fixed.