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Something that bugged me ((spoiler over the Geth )).


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VettoRyouzou

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When talking to Legion you come to learn that the geth you’re fighting are heretics and that Legion himself and his branch of geth have never Met Shepard.. Any of them... But.. issue is they have if you remember ME1 Tali need a information from geth not following Saren and thus the reapers ((ala quest: Geth Incursions)). So you travel to the Armstrong Nebula cluster and take them all out and give the data to tali yada yada.

But the point is I did fight not heretic geth so how can they have not met Shepard further more what were they doing why were they moving back into the Galaxy and my last question.. Do you think we all jumped the gun destroying them all?

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I could have sworn those were Saren's geth in that mission... one of us is remembering wrong.

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It can't be saren geth Remember what Tali said The information had to come from Geth NOT under sarens control and this is the only quest that allows you to get the Info Tali needs, Further more how can you have Sworn they were sarens geth when you just now learned there two different sides.

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The only geth outside the Perseus veil/'Geth space'(aside from Legion) are Sarens geth. The geth fracture was only hinted at in ME1, characters in the first game were completely unaware that Sarens Geth were a splinter faction.

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Motion Blue wrote...

The only geth outside the Perseus veil/'Geth space'(aside from Legion) are Sarens geth. The geth fracture was only hinted at in ME1, characters in the first game were completely unaware that Sarens Geth were a splinter faction.


I know this but again your all missing a key part here Lemme put this in big words.

TALI NEEDED INFO FROM NONE SAREN/REAPER GETH!

She even tells you this in ME1 if you ask her about the quest before doing it the info has to come from geth not borrowing technology from the reapers so the geth at the Armstrong cluster are not reaper geth.

Geth who have evolved on there own.

Modifié par VettoRyouzou, 30 janvier 2010 - 01:54 .


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Motion Blue wrote...

The only geth outside the Perseus veil/'Geth space'(aside from Legion) are Sarens geth. The geth fracture was only hinted at in ME1, characters in the first game were completely unaware that Sarens Geth were a splinter faction.


The Geth invasion fleet was unrelated to Saren.  That was the entire point of it.

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Wait, but the Geth you fought in that mission were preparing for an invasion. Legion directly tells you that the Geth not under Saren's control have no interest whatsoever in going to war with anyone. That, and I don't remember anything about Tali asking for information about Geth not under Saren's control. She had no idea there even WERE any Geth not under his control.

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Willowhugger wrote...

Motion Blue wrote...

The only geth outside the Perseus veil/'Geth space'(aside from Legion) are Sarens geth. The geth fracture was only hinted at in ME1, characters in the first game were completely unaware that Sarens Geth were a splinter faction.


The Geth invasion fleet was unrelated to Saren.  That was the entire point of it.


Thank you some one else who paid attention in Me1.

Serogon wrote...

Wait, but the Geth you fought in that
mission were preparing for an invasion. Legion directly tells you that
the Geth not under Saren's control have no interest whatsoever in going
to war with anyone. That, and I don't remember anything about Tali
asking for information about Geth not under Saren's control. She had no
idea there even WERE any Geth not under his control.


Talk to Tali before going to the quest let her ask for the info before going to get it she tells you to your face that she needs Geth information from geth who naturally evolved with no out side influences from the reaper it the first ever hint at the geth sides being divided.

Also were not sure if it actually was an Assault all of the planets they took were not inhabitable and the only human body I ever saw were next to a thresher maw for all we know the humans were there for a while before the geth walked into the attack.

For all we know these geth were trying to learn more of us from a closer system.

Modifié par VettoRyouzou, 30 janvier 2010 - 02:00 .


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I get what you are saying. It may be that you were able to kill them before they were able to link to a comm buoy, thus the geth never learning who or what killed the ones in the incursion.

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Its been awhile since i cleared ME1, forgive my forgetfulness.

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Or it could be Legion is referring to his platform never encountering Shepard. That platform being different than the Geth as a whole. It almost made it seem that Legion has no connection (comm bouy whatever) to Geth beyond the Persius Veil.

So it could be possible that the Get Shepard encountered was not Reaper Geth, but also had no connection to Legion.

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RandomPot322 wrote...

Or it could be Legion is referring to his platform never encountering Shepard. That platform being different than the Geth as a whole. It almost made it seem that Legion has no connection (comm bouy whatever) to Geth beyond the Persius Veil.
So it could be possible that the Get Shepard encountered was not Reaper Geth, but also had no connection to Legion.


I also pondered this as well make you wonder how many geth there are and how they splintered. Legion really has opened the door for allot geth lore.

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VettoRyouzou wrote...

RandomPot322 wrote...

Or it could be Legion is referring to his platform never encountering Shepard. That platform being different than the Geth as a whole. It almost made it seem that Legion has no connection (comm bouy whatever) to Geth beyond the Persius Veil.
So it could be possible that the Get Shepard encountered was not Reaper Geth, but also had no connection to Legion.


I also pondered this as well make you wonder how many geth there are and how they splintered. Legion really has opened the door for allot geth lore.

I never thought I could have sympathy for the Geth, but Legion was great, being someone for your team, but not a rogue Geth.
I love him almost as much as Garrus or Tali

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VettoRyouzou wrote...

Motion Blue wrote...

The only geth outside the Perseus veil/'Geth space'(aside from Legion) are Sarens geth. The geth fracture was only hinted at in ME1, characters in the first game were completely unaware that Sarens Geth were a splinter faction.


I know this but again your all missing a key part here Lemme put this in big words.

TALI NEEDED INFO FROM NONE SAREN/REAPER GETH!

She even tells you this in ME1 if you ask her about the quest before doing it the info has to come from geth not borrowing technology from the reapers so the geth at the Armstrong cluster are not reaper geth.

Geth who have evolved on there own.


Congratulations, Tali needed information from geth not under Saren's control... unknown to Shepard or Tali ALL Geth that had left the Perseus Veil were Heretic geth.

You took the character's perspective and assumed it was the complete truth... it wasn't.  Tali and Shepard were wrong in the first game, the two groups were inextricably linked.

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ABCoLD wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Motion Blue wrote...

The only geth outside the Perseus veil/'Geth space'(aside from Legion) are Sarens geth. The geth fracture was only hinted at in ME1, characters in the first game were completely unaware that Sarens Geth were a splinter faction.


I know this but again your all missing a key part here Lemme put this in big words.

TALI NEEDED INFO FROM NONE SAREN/REAPER GETH!

She even tells you this in ME1 if you ask her about the quest before doing it the info has to come from geth not borrowing technology from the reapers so the geth at the Armstrong cluster are not reaper geth.

Geth who have evolved on there own.


Congratulations, Tali needed information from geth not under Saren's control... unknown to Shepard or Tali ALL Geth that had left the Perseus Veil were Heretic geth.

You took the character's perspective and assumed it was the complete truth... it wasn't.  Tali and Shepard were wrong in the first game, the two groups were inextricably linked.



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Just because the Geth in that mission didn't follow Saren doesn't mean they weren't heretics. Furthermore, even if they weren't heretic Geth, it doesn't automatically make them part of same platform Legion operates on. Does it?

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ABCoLD wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Motion Blue wrote...

The only geth outside the Perseus veil/'Geth space'(aside from Legion) are Sarens geth. The geth fracture was only hinted at in ME1, characters in the first game were completely unaware that Sarens Geth were a splinter faction.


I know this but again your all missing a key part here Lemme put this in big words.

TALI NEEDED INFO FROM NONE SAREN/REAPER GETH!

She even tells you this in ME1 if you ask her about the quest before doing it the info has to come from geth not borrowing technology from the reapers so the geth at the Armstrong cluster are not reaper geth.

Geth who have evolved on there own.


Congratulations, Tali needed information from geth not under Saren's control... unknown to Shepard or Tali ALL Geth that had left the Perseus Veil were Heretic geth.

You took the character's perspective and assumed it was the complete truth... it wasn't.  Tali and Shepard were wrong in the first game, the two groups were inextricably linked.


Wow just wow do you even pay attention what so ever in me2? Heretic geth = Following the reapers Sarens geth in Me1 were following the REAPERS they only thought of saren as prophet both geth were heretic and thus got technology form the reapers!

Tali needed info from geth not following the reaper who had developed with out other influences aka normal Geth.

Am I going to fast for you or do you want me to put this into smaller words.