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[Gavinthelocust]

She killed me before I could get in her pants.

[Count Viceroy]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Taking Morinth over Samara seemed like the ultimate betrayal to me. Even my renegade Sheps are not that chaotic.

It's stupid beyond belief. Samara has already sworn loyalty to you. No reason what so ever for picking her psychotic daughter instead.

[Jamin101]

Ive only played the game once but i didnt even have the option to recruit her

[FlyinElk212]

*dons his flame-repellant flackjacket* OKAY!



...I actually much prefer Morinth to Samara. Morinth adds such a cool dimension to the character that Samara severely lacks. Having one character constantly pretend to be another while on the inside being a cold-heart and twisted nutjob Siren is AEONS more interesting than Samara could ever be. Besides, how cool is it that, for once, Shepard has to actively AVOID a romance rather than pursue it?



...........*Starts preparing bomb shelter*

[slicer477]

Kreidian wrote...

TaliZorah wrote...

agrue wrote...

Ararara wrote...

SPOILER

Well, she will say how since you were able to withstand the beacon, you'd be able to withstand her. She'll hug you and say embrace eternity with an evil look on her face, then you'll choke and fall to the ground dead.

Which implies that in ME1 when Liara was "helping you" with the Prothean visions, she was actually having sex with you. In front of the rest of the crew. Without your knowledge.

HA, I KNEW I WAS RIGHT!

I'd said back then "Hey, Liara raped my Shepard in front of my whole crew!" and everybody was like "NAAA, she didn't"

YES, she did! Evil ****!

I'm not sure about that, the phrase "can't rape the willing" comes to mind. 

This would also mean that you had sex with the other Asari on Feros that you freed from the Thorian. 

No wonder she looks at you weird after it.

[Sphynx118]

Count Viceroy wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Taking Morinth over Samara seemed like the ultimate betrayal to me. Even my renegade Sheps are not that chaotic.

It's stupid beyond belief. Samara has already sworn loyalty to you. No reason what so ever for picking her psychotic daughter instead.

Its not stupid. If you are renegade that is.
Samara swears to attack you if she ever see you again if you are mostly renegade so by taking morinth you get rid of that problem by killing samara before she might find and kill you in me 3. Pretty common knowledge

[Gabey5]

i think its a trap

[Sofa - The - Great]

Matterialize wrote...

A doctor checking your penis for tumors isn't necessarily fellating you. Just throwing it out there.

What if said doctor checked with her mouth?

[Internet Kraken]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Taking Morinth over Samara seemed like the ultimate betrayal to me. Even my renegade Sheps are not that chaotic.

It's stupid beyond belief. Samara has already sworn loyalty to you. No reason what so ever for picking her psychotic daughter instead.

Its not stupid. If you are renegade that is.
Samara swears to attack you if she ever see you again if you are mostly renegade so by taking morinth you get rid of that problem by killing samara before she might find and kill you in me 3. Pretty common knowledge

Becuase trading one potentially dangerous asari for another makes so much sense. Especially when the latter just tried to kill you less than a minute before you recruit her.

Morinth isn't a renegade. Mordin's policy of executing dangerous people is renegade. Morinth going around melting people's brains is just evil.

I really wish BioWare had put more effort into the dialogue leading up to Morinth's recruitment. As it stands now there is no reason for me to recruit her. Maybe she does have interesting dialogue, but when I'm roleplaying I can;t recruit her based on that.

[Habelo]

Yes i also have her on my team on my lolmode renegade shephard (he was way to evil for me to take him seriously), after i defeated the collectors i did samaras quest and chose morinth. I have now already talked to her once, if i do another mission will the dialogue change? (she is offering herself to me now)

[Bootsykk]

Everything that you just said about her is exactly what her other victims said about her.



She's supposed to be enticing, she's supposed to tell you exactly what you want to here, she's supposed to lure you in by revealing one of her largest 'weaknesses'...



Yeah, I'd say she's the ultimate Renegade. But more in the sense that she just wants to mind **** every living thing in the galaxy to death.



Sir, I believe you've just been played by a very cleverly written bioware character. ;P

[Sphynx118]

Internet Kraken wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Taking Morinth over Samara seemed like the ultimate betrayal to me. Even my renegade Sheps are not that chaotic.

It's stupid beyond belief. Samara has already sworn loyalty to you. No reason what so ever for picking her psychotic daughter instead.

Its not stupid. If you are renegade that is.
Samara swears to attack you if she ever see you again if you are mostly renegade so by taking morinth you get rid of that problem by killing samara before she might find and kill you in me 3. Pretty common knowledge

Becuase trading one potentially dangerous asari for another makes so much sense. Especially when the latter just tried to kill you less than a minute before you recruit her.

Morinth isn't a renegade. Mordin's policy of executing dangerous people is renegade. Morinth going around melting people's brains is just evil.

I really wish BioWare had put more effort into the dialogue leading up to Morinth's recruitment. As it stands now there is no reason for me to recruit her. Maybe she does have interesting dialogue, but when I'm roleplaying I can;t recruit her based on that.

Morinth isnt dangerous after you recruit her unless you want her to be.
The only way you can recruit her in the first place is by resisting her influence. Morinth doesnt kill you if she cant sex you up so wheres the danger? Its not like she will pick up a knife and kill you.

Its trading a dangerous asari who wants to kill you for a dangerous asari who wants to but cant unless you let her. Pretty standard logic here

[tonnactus]

I was very satisfied with her as a squadmember.Even on insane,dominate is just great.The best would be her and Samara in a team...
So sad this couldnt happen.
And bioware wasted a lot potential with this character.Its clear that their victims are not random ones,but those who she have a deep connection with.Hard to believe that she never like or loved some of them.And felt sad beacause her genes forced her to kill them.

That would be great.

[Internet Kraken]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Morinth isnt dangerous after you recruit her unless you want her to be.

Morinth is dangerous by her very nature. Violence is part of who she is. Even if she isn't a threat to Shepard, she's still a threat to other people. Like, for example, all of the noncombatants that are a part of your crew.

The only way you can recruit her in the first place is by resisting her influence. Morinth doesnt kill you if she cant sex you up so wheres the danger?

Shepard doesn't know that when he recruits her. She could have very easily caught you off guard with her biotics or attacked your crew members. Maybe she isn't a threat to Shepard, but she is certainly a threat to others.

Its not like she will pick up a knife and kill you.

Shepard doesn't know this. Considering everything leading up to the recruitment, it seems very likely that she would do that.

Its trading a dangerous asari who wants to kill you for a dangerous asari who wants to but cant unless you let her.

No, it's trading a dangerous Asari who doesn't want to kill you, but may have to because of her code, for a sociopath. A sociopath that is just as strong as the Asari you just killed and far more likely to betray you based on her behavior. Brilliant.

Samara is not strong enough to kill Shepard. Even if she was, then Morinth would be as well. So how is recruiting Morinth any less dangerous?

Pretty standard logic here

All I see is an absence of logic.

Modifié par Internet Kraken, 22 février 2010 - 11:43 .

[Gill Kaiser]

You can't believe anything Morinth says. She's basically the sci-fi version of a succubus. You finding out about her "deep sense of loss" is entirely suspect.

Also, she may say her victims die of ecstacy overload, but you only have her word for it. Physically your nervous system and brain is haemorraged and burnt out. That doesn't sound particularly fun, to me.

[Sphynx118]

Internet Kraken wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

Morinth isnt dangerous after you recruit her unless you want her to be.

Morinth is dangerous by her very nature. Violence is part of who she is. Even if she isn't a threat to Shepard, she's still a threat to other people. Like, for example, all of the noncombatants that are a part of your crew.

The only way you can recruit her in the first place is by resisting her influence. Morinth doesnt kill you if she cant sex you up so wheres the danger?

Shepard doesn't know that when he recruits her. She could have very easily caught you off guard with her biotics or attacked your crew members. Maybe she isn't a threat to Shepard, but she is certainly a threat to others.

Its not like she will pick up a knife and kill you.

Shepard doesn't know this. Considering everything leading up to the recruitment, it seems very likely that she would do that.

Its trading a dangerous asari who wants to kill you for a dangerous asari who wants to but cant unless you let her.

No, it's trading a dangerous Asari who doesn't want to kill you, but may have to because of her code, for a sociopath. A sociopath that is just as strong as the Asari you just killed and far more likely to betray you based on her behavior. Brilliant.

Samara is not strong enough to kill Shepard. Even if she was, then Morinth would be as well. So how is recruiting Morinth any less dangerous?

Pretty standard logic here

All I see is an absence of logic.

How is Samara not strong enough to kill shep? Making stuff up isnt really facts you know. Shep is immortal because hes the main char or? I dont see how you came to that conclusion really.

And i dont know how you or shep came to the conclusion that she would pick up a knife based on her mission? Considering she never done so in the past and only kills people through sex i find that hard to believe.
And it doesnt matter if morinth is as strong with biotics as samara since she WONT kill you unless she can have sex with you.
You seem to think that morinth kills people randomly which she doesnt.

[tonnactus]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Also, she may say her victims die of ecstacy overload, but you only have her word for it. Physically your nervous system and brain is haemorraged and burnt out. That doesn't sound particularly fun, to me.

Sheaprdt was cleared pleased in the first stages of the melding.

[Landline]

One thing about recruiting her:



What if she tries seducing another member of the crew? You would then have their death on your hands.

[Sphynx118]

tonnactus wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Also, she may say her victims die of ecstacy overload, but you only have her word for it. Physically your nervous system and brain is haemorraged and burnt out. That doesn't sound particularly fun, to me.

Sheaprdt was cleared pleased in the first stages of the melding.

Morinth melded with me and i JI ZZ'D IN MY PANTS

Modifié par Sphynx118, 22 février 2010 - 11:54 .

[tonnactus]

Internet Kraken wrote...

Shepard doesn't know that when he recruits her. She could have very easily caught you off guard with her biotics or attacked your crew members. Maybe she isn't a threat to Shepard, but she is certainly a threat to others.

You forgot edi and her monitoring devices...
Sheaprdt will find out that really fast,but Morinth isnt that stupid to do this.
She isnt more dangerous then jack.

[Sphynx118]

tonnactus wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

Shepard doesn't know that when he recruits her. She could have very easily caught you off guard with her biotics or attacked your crew members. Maybe she isn't a threat to Shepard, but she is certainly a threat to others.

You forgot edi and her monitoring devices...
Sheaprdt will find out that really fast,but Morinth isnt that stupid to do this.
She isnt more dangerous then jack.

True.. Jack kills people for random reasons. Morinth doesnt

[Internet Kraken]

Sphynx118 wrote...



How is Samara not strong enough to kill shep? Making stuff up isnt really facts you know. Shep is immortal because hes the main char or? I dont see how you came to that conclusion really.

It's not hard to figure out. Shepard is the one in charge of the suicide mission. Shepard is the one Cerberus has spent all their money on to bring back. Shepard is the one with superior code, according to the Geth. Him being weaker than a Justicar is pretty darn stupid. But hey, Shepard isn't important just because he's strong. He is also a natural leader. In other words, Shepard has an entire crewing supporting him. Yeah, I'm sure Samara is strong enough to take down Shepard and his 2 squadmates (minimum) by herself.

And i dont know how you or shep came to the conclusion that she would pick up a knife based on her mission?

I came to this conclusion based on her own comments. By talking to her and examining objects in her apartment, it becomes clear that she is manipulative and cunning. She seems far more likely to stab me in the back than the noble Asari Justicar. And considering how she just tried to kill me I wouldn't put it past her. What is there to indicate that she will remain loyal to Shepard? Her argument for me to bring her along is that she's "just as powerful as she(Samara) is"! That doesn't exactly prove her loyalty. Compare that to Samara who has sworn to follow my orders until the mission is completed.

Considering she never done so in the past and only kills people through sex i find that hard to believe.

Wrong. She did not only kill people with sex. She herself admits to taking a part in dueling to the death. She killed people for fun. And I imagine she has betrayed many people in order to evade Samara for over 300 years. She certainly wouldn't feel any remorse about doing so.

And it doesnt matter if morinth is as strong with biotics as samara since she WONT kill you unless she can have sex with you.

And how do you know this? She has other ways to kill people aside from sex. For example, her powerful biotics. She kills people with sex to strengthen them.

You seem to think that morinth kills people randomly which she doesnt.

Last time she checked, Morinth killed plenty of people without reason. Isn't that what being an ardat yakshi is about? Hunting people down to fuel your biotic strength?

[Sphynx118]

Internet Kraken wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...

How is Samara not strong enough to kill shep? Making stuff up isnt really facts you know. Shep is immortal because hes the main char or? I dont see how you came to that conclusion really.

It's not hard to figure out. Shepard is the one in charge of the suicide mission. Shepard is the one Cerberus has spent all their money on to bring back. Shepard is the one with superior code, according to the Geth. Him being weaker than a Justicar is pretty darn stupid. But hey, Shepard isn't important just because he's strong. He is also a natural leader. In other words, Shepard has an entire crewing supporting him. Yeah, I'm sure Samara is strong enough to take down Shepard and his 2 squadmates (minimum) by herself.

And i dont know how you or shep came to the conclusion that she would pick up a knife based on her mission?

I came to this conclusion based on her own comments. By talking to her and examining objects in her apartment, it becomes clear that she is manipulative and cunning. She seems far more likely to stab me in the back than the noble Asari Justicar. And considering how she just tried to kill me I wouldn't put it past her. What is there to indicate that she will remain loyal to Shepard? Her argument for me to bring her along is that she's "just as powerful as she(Samara) is"! That doesn't exactly prove her loyalty. Compare that to Samara who has sworn to follow my orders until the mission is completed.

Considering she never done so in the past and only kills people through sex i find that hard to believe.

Wrong. She did not only kill people with sex. She herself admits to taking a part in dueling to the death. She killed people for fun. And I imagine she has betrayed many people in order to evade Samara for over 300 years. She certainly wouldn't feel any remorse about doing so.

And it doesnt matter if morinth is as strong with biotics as samara since she WONT kill you unless she can have sex with you.

And how do you know this? She has other ways to kill people aside from sex. For example, her powerful biotics. She kills people with sex to strengthen them.

You seem to think that morinth kills people randomly which she doesnt.

Last time she checked, Morinth killed plenty of people without reason. Isn't that what being an ardat yakshi is about? Hunting people down to fuel your biotic strength?

Lol Samara would kick the crap out of shepard.
Just because shepard was chosen to be brought back alive by cerberus doesnt mean hes stronger than everyone else.
Samara takes out a squad of eclipse elites without trouble.
Even Grunt could have killed shepard if he wanted to.
What would shepard do? Shoot him with the puny gun in the gut? Grunt would break shepards spine and laugh at the gunwound.
So your theory of shepard being the superman of the galaxy is wrong im afraid.

And killing people for no reason does not equall killing them randomly so no that not what an ardat-yakshi does. She chooses her targets carefully.
The guy wanting to buy the tickets for example would never stand a chance to be with her.