The Loghain decision has been discussed ad nauseum on the board but it's just one of many times that you have to make that sort of decision. I'm curious how people decide these things and which way they went on them. For me, the three main things that influenced me were:
1. Were there extenuating circumstances for their bad behavior?
2. Do I have to kill them in cold blood?
3. Might they pose a threat to me later?
I'm only part way through the game, but thus far, playing a human noble rogue:
Sten - left him to rot in his cage. Why release someone who may be a homicidal maniac?1. No (that I know of). 2. No. 3. Yes.
Jowan - I actually told him he could come along and help (mostly with the thought that maybe he’d know something that would be of use in saving Arle Eamon), but he declined, so I wasn’t about to trust him. Also, I might need his testimony against Loghain at some point. 1. Maybe., if you believe him 2. No. 3. Yes.
The Blood Mage in the Circle Tower. Let her go. 1. Not really, other than general mage oppression. 2. Yes. 3. Probably Not.
Zevran. Allowed him to join. 1. Maybe. 2. Yes. 3. Yes. I don’t think it makes a lot of sense to let him live under the circumstances, but I metagamed a little here: I wanted my rogue to be able to learn the assassin skill and I was curious about the gay romance option.
The Thug in Dusttown. Let him go. 1. Not really, other than being casteless. 2. Yes. 3. Probably not.
Opportunities to free/spare or kill: which did you choose and why?
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 02:42
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Executed everyone except for Zevran and the thug in dustown. Leliana's assassin was a no brainer, that Dalish girl who hunts you down in the woods was insufferable, Jowan deserved sympathy, but realistically, his situation had few ways out.
Sten was too terse and unyielding to justify releasing him. Plus, the dude killed an innocent family. People forget that. Ice cold.
Sten was too terse and unyielding to justify releasing him. Plus, the dude killed an innocent family. People forget that. Ice cold.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 03:11
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My Human Noble killed the Blood Mage in the Tower who begs for mercy this time. Right down to giving the "May the Maker show you mercy because you'll see none from me, Maleficarum!" line.
And whenever someone mentions Rendon Howe, he goes into a blood-rage. hehe The last thing the thugs in the Pearl heard was, "You work for that bastard? You're all dead!"
That said, he let Zevren off the mat. It was close though...I think it was just because Zev's humor kept his blood from boiling.
I can understand why people leave Sten. But my PCs generally figure it's a Grey Warden thing to find useful tools where others would leave them behind. And as he says himself, it's as likely to lead to his death as sitting in the cage.
And whenever someone mentions Rendon Howe, he goes into a blood-rage. hehe The last thing the thugs in the Pearl heard was, "You work for that bastard? You're all dead!"
That said, he let Zevren off the mat. It was close though...I think it was just because Zev's humor kept his blood from boiling.
I can understand why people leave Sten. But my PCs generally figure it's a Grey Warden thing to find useful tools where others would leave them behind. And as he says himself, it's as likely to lead to his death as sitting in the cage.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 03:42
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It depends on the character I'm playing. But here's what I did for my "canon" character:
Sten: Took him with me. I was terribly short on allies. Sure, he did something horrible. But there was remorse in him too. You can see it, if you look for it. And realistically, the Blight would probably kill them all anyway. Besides, my noble was a bit arrogant, and figured if Sten tried anything, he'd just knock him down a few pegs.
Jowan: Tried to convince him to come with me, if only because I wanted to keep an eye on him. He wasn't trustworthy, but he knew more about the situation than I did. When he declined, I left him in the dungeon and later recommended that he be handed to the Circle of Magi.
Blood Mage: Killed her. While I sympathized with the mages, at the end of the day she did something she knew was wrong. And letting her go was taking an unacceptable risk that she might do something like this again. It was unfortunate, but with the Circle in the state it was, I couldn't afford to spare her. Also, this was the first quest I did. My noble was a bit callous after losing his family and then watching his king and country decimated. He's not really feeling merciful at this point. The blood mage doesn't immediately benefit him (unlike Sten), so she dies.
Zevran: Spared, but of course (and eventually romanced). He may have been an assassin, but he mentions life as a slave and other horrors in his past. My noble took pity on him. And being kind of arrogant, figured that if Zevran ever did try again, he could take him just as easily as he did the first time. Not that Zev tried.
Thug: Let him go. I did Orzammar last, so my noble's had some time to put the immediate grief behind him. He's seen that the world's not all bright shiny roses like the life he used to lead. So he takes pity on the thug.
Of course, as an above poster said, my noble is completely blinded by any mention of Howe. Though the immediate pain is gone, a mention of that man is enough to bring it back to the surface.
Sten: Took him with me. I was terribly short on allies. Sure, he did something horrible. But there was remorse in him too. You can see it, if you look for it. And realistically, the Blight would probably kill them all anyway. Besides, my noble was a bit arrogant, and figured if Sten tried anything, he'd just knock him down a few pegs.
Jowan: Tried to convince him to come with me, if only because I wanted to keep an eye on him. He wasn't trustworthy, but he knew more about the situation than I did. When he declined, I left him in the dungeon and later recommended that he be handed to the Circle of Magi.
Blood Mage: Killed her. While I sympathized with the mages, at the end of the day she did something she knew was wrong. And letting her go was taking an unacceptable risk that she might do something like this again. It was unfortunate, but with the Circle in the state it was, I couldn't afford to spare her. Also, this was the first quest I did. My noble was a bit callous after losing his family and then watching his king and country decimated. He's not really feeling merciful at this point. The blood mage doesn't immediately benefit him (unlike Sten), so she dies.
Zevran: Spared, but of course (and eventually romanced). He may have been an assassin, but he mentions life as a slave and other horrors in his past. My noble took pity on him. And being kind of arrogant, figured that if Zevran ever did try again, he could take him just as easily as he did the first time. Not that Zev tried.
Thug: Let him go. I did Orzammar last, so my noble's had some time to put the immediate grief behind him. He's seen that the world's not all bright shiny roses like the life he used to lead. So he takes pity on the thug.
Of course, as an above poster said, my noble is completely blinded by any mention of Howe. Though the immediate pain is gone, a mention of that man is enough to bring it back to the surface.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 04:06
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highcastle wrote...
*snip*
Of course, as an above poster said, my noble is completely blinded by any mention of Howe. Though the immediate pain is gone, a mention of that man is enough to bring it back to the surface.
The funny thing is...this PC (my human noble) is the one I intend to go through the Loghain-recruitment with. It's going to be interesting to see if he can make the logical separation in his mind between Howe's treachery and Loghain. I figure though that a loyal Cousland might have a serious bit of hero-worship of Loghain though... and that in the crunch, he can't kill someone he worshipped as a boy.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 05:17
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Sten - 1. Didn't know, How can I if I don't investigate? 2. Leaving him in cold blood, you mean? In a cage for the darkspawn. In the end it didn't matter for my decision. 3. Maybe. And that seemed interesting to me.
My main reason for having Leilana break him out, was probably that the chantry mother annoyed me so much. But at the time I was also keen to recruit some big, tough, capable melee warrior, and Sten acted the part. How was I to know it was just an act? (To be fair, it was more Biowares fault for making 2H suck horse manurethrough straw, all the way until really high level, than any flaw of Sten, personally.) My PC was in a gritty mood and traveling with, and emplying the help of, a murderer seemed somewhat fitting.
So I spared him and joined him and kept him fixed in the party always. And I never regretted it.
Jowan - 1. Not really, just a little. But his main excuse in my PC's eyes was that he really didn't do anything that should be so terrible, in his eyes. He didn't intend to cause any death, for instance. That was all the boy's doing. Non-killer, I don't kill. 2. Yes (don't I?) 3. No, I left him in the prison until I had finished and then turned him over to the circle for re-education.
Blood mage in tower. 1. Yes, she is of course completely right to rebel against oppression. She just elect to follow the wrong guy who has a hidden agenda. 2.Yes 3. No. I let her go.
Zevran - 1. No, except that it's his upbringing and everything he knows. 2 Yes. 3. Yes. Too interesting and seemingly useful, once he offered his services, to let go waste. I recruited him. Pity Bioware didn't let us have the option of asking him to assassinate Anora or something, at the end. How was I to know that he only seemed to be useful?
The Thug - 1. What thug? 2. What thug? I killed a lot of thugs in Dusttown, but none in cold blood as I remember it. 3. What thug? But no, whatever, no threat.
My main reason for having Leilana break him out, was probably that the chantry mother annoyed me so much. But at the time I was also keen to recruit some big, tough, capable melee warrior, and Sten acted the part. How was I to know it was just an act? (To be fair, it was more Biowares fault for making 2H suck horse manurethrough straw, all the way until really high level, than any flaw of Sten, personally.) My PC was in a gritty mood and traveling with, and emplying the help of, a murderer seemed somewhat fitting.
So I spared him and joined him and kept him fixed in the party always. And I never regretted it.
Jowan - 1. Not really, just a little. But his main excuse in my PC's eyes was that he really didn't do anything that should be so terrible, in his eyes. He didn't intend to cause any death, for instance. That was all the boy's doing. Non-killer, I don't kill. 2. Yes (don't I?) 3. No, I left him in the prison until I had finished and then turned him over to the circle for re-education.
Blood mage in tower. 1. Yes, she is of course completely right to rebel against oppression. She just elect to follow the wrong guy who has a hidden agenda. 2.Yes 3. No. I let her go.
Zevran - 1. No, except that it's his upbringing and everything he knows. 2 Yes. 3. Yes. Too interesting and seemingly useful, once he offered his services, to let go waste. I recruited him. Pity Bioware didn't let us have the option of asking him to assassinate Anora or something, at the end. How was I to know that he only seemed to be useful?
The Thug - 1. What thug? 2. What thug? I killed a lot of thugs in Dusttown, but none in cold blood as I remember it. 3. What thug? But no, whatever, no threat.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 05:18
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Sten: Spared him, because my mage was quite the angry pragmatist at the beginning of her playthrough. He seemed a lot bigger and tougher than anyone with her at the time- good guy to run screaming into a mob of darkspawn for ya', right?
Jowan: Just barely kept myself from metagaming and telling him to get lost... My mage yelled at him until he came with her and had him stay to watch over Connor, because there was no way she was letting him use blood magic again. I figure, even if he was a lying coward in the origin, he's honestly remorseful and they still have plenty of years of friendship behind them; killing him would definitely be in cold blood. No amount of persuasion saved him from the Circle, though.
Blood Mage: Let her go with all the niceness the game would allow. My mage jumped on every opportunity possible to berate and undermine the Templars (and the Circle, to an extent. She's no fan of how spineless Irving is against the Chantry.) Plus, she was a maleficar herself by this point. This blood mage was just about the embodiment of her ideals... if a more weak and corrupt version.
Zevran: Spared. Again with the pragmatism, right? He would be useful, and it wasn't like they couldn't skin him alive if he decided to turn later.
Thug: Let him go. I did Orzammar last, and was getting a bit tired of being so cold. Mage, plenty jaded by now, figures she has enough blood on her hands- and what's the point of another fight when you can just be intimidating and save yourself the effort?
Jowan: Just barely kept myself from metagaming and telling him to get lost... My mage yelled at him until he came with her and had him stay to watch over Connor, because there was no way she was letting him use blood magic again. I figure, even if he was a lying coward in the origin, he's honestly remorseful and they still have plenty of years of friendship behind them; killing him would definitely be in cold blood. No amount of persuasion saved him from the Circle, though.
Blood Mage: Let her go with all the niceness the game would allow. My mage jumped on every opportunity possible to berate and undermine the Templars (and the Circle, to an extent. She's no fan of how spineless Irving is against the Chantry.
) Plus, she was a maleficar herself by this point. This blood mage was just about the embodiment of her ideals... if a more weak and corrupt version. Zevran: Spared. Again with the pragmatism, right? He would be useful, and it wasn't like they couldn't skin him alive if he decided to turn later.
Thug: Let him go. I did Orzammar last, and was getting a bit tired of being so cold. Mage, plenty jaded by now, figures she has enough blood on her hands- and what's the point of another fight when you can just be intimidating and save yourself the effort?
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 06:40
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Sten: I wanted to see how if affected the party, so I let him live. I pretty much never use him, but if you talk to him and do his personal quest, you get a better understanding of why he did what he did. He doesn't try to make excuses, but it's pretty obvious that he regrets it.
Jowan: My first playthrough was as a Mage and, even though he's annoying as hell in that Origin, I've always let him lived based on past friendship. He ususally gets turned over to the Circle.
Blood Mage: I've killed her 3 out of 4 plays...I let her live this last time just to see what would happen. Nothing, as far as I can tell.
Zevran: I always let him live. He's a loyal friend to my PC and a damn effective damage dealer.
Thug: Sometimes I kill him, sometimes not.
My favorite person to kill is Genitivi, just because the setup makes me laugh. I always reload afterward though, so it's pretend death. Oh, and killing Vaughn - really killing him - is ever so satisfying.
Jowan: My first playthrough was as a Mage and, even though he's annoying as hell in that Origin, I've always let him lived based on past friendship. He ususally gets turned over to the Circle.
Blood Mage: I've killed her 3 out of 4 plays...I let her live this last time just to see what would happen. Nothing, as far as I can tell.
Zevran: I always let him live. He's a loyal friend to my PC and a damn effective damage dealer.
Thug: Sometimes I kill him, sometimes not.
My favorite person to kill is Genitivi, just because the setup makes me laugh. I always reload afterward though, so it's pretend death. Oh, and killing Vaughn - really killing him - is ever so satisfying.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 06:46
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Spared the demon ensorcelling a templar in the Circle Tower?
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 07:57
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I enjoyed killing the Tevinter blood mage in the Alienage with my city elf 
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 08:13
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Addai67 wrote...
Spared the demon ensorcelling a templar in the Circle Tower?
I thought about it. Mainly because I feel sorry for the templar, my PC was leaning toward believing the demon about the templar's state of mind.
Are there repercussions? Does anything happen? If it's to spoilerish, feel free to pm me, Addai
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 08:25
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On my firstplaythrough
Jowan: I give him a chance to save Corner..and send him back to Circle, It's only best choice he deserve a second chance..although out come might not be that great.
Beside he was extream unlucky character i met ingame, You could say he's both stupid and unlucky..but at the end he willing to fix everything.
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Sten: I took him with me,even though i know he did terrible thing...but Grey warden need all aid they can get. Beside he seems regret about what he did before.
It might be one reason he never smile, beside he's extreamly loyal and honored warrior, also his philosophy always give some moral, he's person i would like to keep in company
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Zevran: I spare him, give him a chance, first because i want more information, until he reveal his story and he proof himself loyalty to me laterly.
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Bloodmage: I killed her, the reason is she probably kill many innocent already, she didn't give them a chance to ask for mercy. So fair deal
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Thug: I kill him...for exp point...
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Jowan: I give him a chance to save Corner..and send him back to Circle, It's only best choice he deserve a second chance..although out come might not be that great.
Beside he was extream unlucky character i met ingame, You could say he's both stupid and unlucky..but at the end he willing to fix everything.
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Sten: I took him with me,even though i know he did terrible thing...but Grey warden need all aid they can get. Beside he seems regret about what he did before.
It might be one reason he never smile, beside he's extreamly loyal and honored warrior, also his philosophy always give some moral, he's person i would like to keep in company
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Zevran: I spare him, give him a chance, first because i want more information, until he reveal his story and he proof himself loyalty to me laterly.
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Bloodmage: I killed her, the reason is she probably kill many innocent already, she didn't give them a chance to ask for mercy. So fair deal
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Thug: I kill him...for exp point...
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 08:27
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BeckShort wrote...
Sten was too terse and unyielding to justify releasing him. Plus, the dude killed an innocent family. People forget that. Ice cold.
Not true. He went crazy and did it because he'd lost his sword. That sword was his soul, it has a mystical connection with him (the connection may only be in his mind, but it's been inculcated in him by his culture and religion since infancy, so it's nonetheless real).
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 08:43
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* Sten - spared him in every playthrough. 1) Yes, there were. 2) Yes; leaving him in the cage is still killing him in cold blood, it's just not by your personal hand. 3) Possibly.
* Jowan - spared his life but handed him over to the Circle, where he'll likely be made Tranquil. 1) Yes, although you only know this if you're a mage. 2) Well, you don't kill him at all afaik. 3) No.
* Zevran - mostly I've spared him. Once I killed him outright. 1) Yes, sold into slavery, had no choice. 2) Yes. 3) Possibly.
* Blood mage - let her live every time so far. 1) Yes, not a sufficient one, but yes. 2) Yes. 3) Possibly - she isn't, but you don't know that at the time. Unless she comes back to do something in an expansion.
* Witherfang/Lady/Zathrian - break the curse every time. 1) Yes - for both sides. 2) Yes. 3) No - not for breaking the curse anyway.
* Branka/Caridin - so far I've killed Branka each time. 1) No. 2) No. 3) Yes.
* Loghain - killed him. 1) Yes, but not a sufficient one. 2) No, combat is not cold blood. 3) Yes.
What all that boils down to (11 characters, but only 1 has finished the game) is that generally I spare those where there are extenuating circumstances, and where I feel that they're genuinely sorry, and where I feel that any risk attached to sparing them is minimal.
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* Jowan - spared his life but handed him over to the Circle, where he'll likely be made Tranquil. 1) Yes, although you only know this if you're a mage. 2) Well, you don't kill him at all afaik. 3) No.
* Zevran - mostly I've spared him. Once I killed him outright. 1) Yes, sold into slavery, had no choice. 2) Yes. 3) Possibly.
* Blood mage - let her live every time so far. 1) Yes, not a sufficient one, but yes. 2) Yes. 3) Possibly - she isn't, but you don't know that at the time. Unless she comes back to do something in an expansion.
* Witherfang/Lady/Zathrian - break the curse every time. 1) Yes - for both sides. 2) Yes. 3) No - not for breaking the curse anyway.
* Branka/Caridin - so far I've killed Branka each time. 1) No. 2) No. 3) Yes.
* Loghain - killed him. 1) Yes, but not a sufficient one. 2) No, combat is not cold blood. 3) Yes.
What all that boils down to (11 characters, but only 1 has finished the game) is that generally I spare those where there are extenuating circumstances, and where I feel that they're genuinely sorry, and where I feel that any risk attached to sparing them is minimal.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 09:08
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Sten: Released him in both playthroughs so far. He's looking for redemption, if he's gonna die it might as well be doing something useful, and the rest of the group can watch over him in the meantime.
Jowan: Released him as my mage, although said mage started off being aggressive at the spineless coward who lied and then left both the mage and Jowan's lover at the mercy of the templars. He eventually persuaded my mage he was remorseful enough to have a chance to redeem himself, though.
Leliana's assassin: My mage is a bit of a softie, and let him go. My human noble warrior WAS going to kill him, but is honourable enough to keep his word about letting him go in exchange for information.
Zevran, my mage spared, largely on the principle that we'd beat him before, and Shale could have fun squishing him if he tried anything during the night. My human noble...I honestly don't know at this point.
Blood mage was let go by my mage - he can sympathise even if he doesn't agree with her methods. My human noble will probably execute her, though.
Thug my mage spared. Can't remember that scene well enough to predict what my noble warrior will do.
Loghain my mage remembered what Loghain's scheming ended up doing to Jowan and the Circle, and executed. My human noble warrior will probably let Alistair do the fighting, with the expected result therof, although there's also the Loghain-Howe connection that means he probably won't be too perturbed at Loghain's death. (There's also the metagaming consideration that I don't want Alistair to end up a drunk, so Loghain being spared will require a playthrough that puts Alistair on the throne.)
The Tevinter slaver got the "here's a counterproposal: I kill you and take everything!" response, and offering to sacrifice the elves in a blood magic ritual didn't help his case.
Jowan: Released him as my mage, although said mage started off being aggressive at the spineless coward who lied and then left both the mage and Jowan's lover at the mercy of the templars. He eventually persuaded my mage he was remorseful enough to have a chance to redeem himself, though.
Leliana's assassin: My mage is a bit of a softie, and let him go. My human noble warrior WAS going to kill him, but is honourable enough to keep his word about letting him go in exchange for information.
Zevran, my mage spared, largely on the principle that we'd beat him before, and Shale could have fun squishing him if he tried anything during the night. My human noble...I honestly don't know at this point.
Blood mage was let go by my mage - he can sympathise even if he doesn't agree with her methods. My human noble will probably execute her, though.
Thug my mage spared. Can't remember that scene well enough to predict what my noble warrior will do.
Loghain my mage remembered what Loghain's scheming ended up doing to Jowan and the Circle, and executed. My human noble warrior will probably let Alistair do the fighting, with the expected result therof, although there's also the Loghain-Howe connection that means he probably won't be too perturbed at Loghain's death. (There's also the metagaming consideration that I don't want Alistair to end up a drunk, so Loghain being spared will require a playthrough that puts Alistair on the throne.)
The Tevinter slaver got the "here's a counterproposal: I kill you and take everything!" response, and offering to sacrifice the elves in a blood magic ritual didn't help his case.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 01:23
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spared sten because I needed the help and he seemed sorry and as leliania pointed out as we wallked by. Better for him to die fighting darkspawn with a sword in his hand than locked in a cage. Spared jowan as much as possible, released him and used his blood magic ritual to gain my own blood magic. Understood his search for power and secretly hated the chantry and wanted the power for myself (though haven't taken any skills in it yet way to many other useful ones). Blood mage in the tower, um yea I was a blood mage to by that point so she was released..
I had hoped there was a way to save the enscrolled templar but I ended up having to kill him. Even tried leaving him till last in the hope that killing everyone else would break the spell he was in, didn't work sigh. But, though I am a blood mage uncontrolled demons no can't release them.
I had hoped there was a way to save the enscrolled templar but I ended up having to kill him. Even tried leaving him till last in the hope that killing everyone else would break the spell he was in, didn't work sigh. But, though I am a blood mage uncontrolled demons no can't release them.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 01:49
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Sten: Spared, because leaving him there as darkspawn fodder is too cold blooded for all 3 of my PCs
Jowan: Spared, because my mage hates the Chantry and blames them, both my HN (warrior, rogue) are practical, and thought he might be of use in the quest. He felt non-threatening,and genuinely remorseful. Aside from that, both HNs' understood that the GWs do not oppose Blood Magic.
Majorlane: Killed once, spared once. I'll have my PC kill her again next time, because unlike with Jowan, my last PC felt that Majorlane could never be trusted, and she showed less than no remorse for putting Leliana through the wringer. I didn't want to re-load, because I usually only do that to explore options, not during game-play, else I'd have done that and killed her the second time around.
Zevran: Spared. Anytime. Always. It was business, and he wanted out. Any slave that wants to escape has an automatic extenuating circumstance. Aside from that, his explanation sounded logical, and a desperate group can always use a good rogue, even if it is an assassin
Blood mage: Spared, everytime. My mage understood her perfectly, my HN's don't kill in cold blood. Besides, seeing the living quarters, and the bathrooms with no doors, they started to get an inkling that the mages' lot was worse than warranted.
Branka: Killed, every play-through. She doomed her whole house, and her batsh** crazy rambling didn't endear her to any of my girls. The broodmother made me flinch, first (unspoiled) play-through.
Vaughn: Killed, every play through. Not metagaming, just talking to Soris first, makes my PCs gag with revulsion. His arrogance and foul mouth didn't do anything to endear him to anyone.
Tevinter Bloodmage: Too bad my PCs couldn't kill him more than once.
Thug: Spared, every time. The living condition in Dust Town is atrocious, and so is the treatment those dwarfs have to endure. They have little choice but to agree with Jarvia.
Zathrian/Witherfang: Always saved the dalish and the werewolves. My PCs are all human, and they believe that the elves have suffered enough through their hands. Zathrian's hate was well understood by my HNs' - they too knew what losing loved ones can feel like. My mage didn't want the werewolves being forced into a life they hated - she knew how that feels like.
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Jowan: Spared, because my mage hates the Chantry and blames them, both my HN (warrior, rogue) are practical, and thought he might be of use in the quest. He felt non-threatening,and genuinely remorseful. Aside from that, both HNs' understood that the GWs do not oppose Blood Magic.
Majorlane: Killed once, spared once. I'll have my PC kill her again next time, because unlike with Jowan, my last PC felt that Majorlane could never be trusted, and she showed less than no remorse for putting Leliana through the wringer. I didn't want to re-load, because I usually only do that to explore options, not during game-play, else I'd have done that and killed her the second time around.
Zevran: Spared. Anytime. Always. It was business, and he wanted out. Any slave that wants to escape has an automatic extenuating circumstance. Aside from that, his explanation sounded logical, and a desperate group can always use a good rogue, even if it is an assassin
Blood mage: Spared, everytime. My mage understood her perfectly, my HN's don't kill in cold blood. Besides, seeing the living quarters, and the bathrooms with no doors, they started to get an inkling that the mages' lot was worse than warranted.
Branka: Killed, every play-through. She doomed her whole house, and her batsh** crazy rambling didn't endear her to any of my girls. The broodmother made me flinch, first (unspoiled) play-through.
Vaughn: Killed, every play through. Not metagaming, just talking to Soris first, makes my PCs gag with revulsion. His arrogance and foul mouth didn't do anything to endear him to anyone.
Tevinter Bloodmage: Too bad my PCs couldn't kill him more than once.
Thug: Spared, every time. The living condition in Dust Town is atrocious, and so is the treatment those dwarfs have to endure. They have little choice but to agree with Jarvia.
Zathrian/Witherfang: Always saved the dalish and the werewolves. My PCs are all human, and they believe that the elves have suffered enough through their hands. Zathrian's hate was well understood by my HNs' - they too knew what losing loved ones can feel like. My mage didn't want the werewolves being forced into a life they hated - she knew how that feels like.
Edited, because formatting is a gamble at times
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 03:23
Iseleth
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Most of my characters prefer to spare surrendered opponents, rather than killing them in cold blood.
That being said, I always kill Vaughn, because I hate him too much to do otherwise.
Killed Loghain only once, because I was romancing Alistair and I wanted to keep him (my first playthrough, Loghain also died because I got Alistair to duel him and I didn't get to choose). Find it more satisfying to give him a chance at redemption.
Jowan, the blood mage, the Tevinter slaver: killed them once to see what that would change, otherwise they are always spared. I feel sorry for Jowan in particular, as he genuinely regrets what he's done. For the slaver, losing his slaves and his money is punishment enough (besides he's kind of amusing).
I always free Sten (for the possibility of redemption) and spare Zevran. I don't think I would ever be able to kill Zevran. I liked him immediately on my first playthough, even without knowing his backstory. Now that I do, it's even more impossible to kill him.
Witherfang/Zathrian: usually broke the curse, as it's the best outcome for everyone.
That being said, I always kill Vaughn, because I hate him too much to do otherwise.
Killed Loghain only once, because I was romancing Alistair and I wanted to keep him (my first playthrough, Loghain also died because I got Alistair to duel him and I didn't get to choose). Find it more satisfying to give him a chance at redemption.
Jowan, the blood mage, the Tevinter slaver: killed them once to see what that would change, otherwise they are always spared. I feel sorry for Jowan in particular, as he genuinely regrets what he's done. For the slaver, losing his slaves and his money is punishment enough (besides he's kind of amusing).
I always free Sten (for the possibility of redemption) and spare Zevran. I don't think I would ever be able to kill Zevran. I liked him immediately on my first playthough, even without knowing his backstory. Now that I do, it's even more impossible to kill him.
Witherfang/Zathrian: usually broke the curse, as it's the best outcome for everyone.
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Posté 30 janvier 2010 - 03:54
elearon1
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I didn't kill any of the assassins who asked for leniency - an assassin isn't my enemy, the person who hired him is; that would be like breaking every sword which struck at you.
And I left Zev alive because he was rather amusing.
Mind you, had I been playing someone other than a rogue I might have made different decisions.
And I left Zev alive because he was rather amusing.
Mind you, had I been playing someone other than a rogue I might have made different decisions.
