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[sejmarty]

The whole "cloistered Salarian females" thing seems like a lazy way to avoid creating more diversity among the NPCs.  Like what Star Trek:TOS did with the Ferengi for a long time.

I
understand the time constraints that led to a lack of female Turians
around, but having Garrus talk about their fringe and their waists only draws attention to it.  It seems pretty awkward and something that a human would constantly bring up in conversation (the lack of gender diversity among crowds in places like the Citadel).

That's all.

[Mikenator700]

Yeah, the Salarian thing is such a rip-off to not make female models.



The one thing that really peeves me is that every being you encounter is already and adult. There should've at least been human kids running around the Citadel. I mean really, everyone in the future is at least 21 or so? Come on...

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

I agree this was a major oversight, but do we know the turian's are male, maybe Females look identical?

[sejmarty]

Mikenator700 wrote...

Yeah, the Salarian thing is such a rip-off to not make female models.

The one thing that really peeves me is that every being you encounter is already and adult. There should've at least been human kids running around the Citadel. I mean really, everyone in the future is at least 21 or so? Come on...

Heh, I know what you mean.  You could probably argue that the Citadel is a government hub town, so that perhaps the only permanent residents are politicians and lobbyists that stay there for business reasons.  Of course, it would be odd for none of them to have children.

Salarian childhood is probably short-lived and I imagine they would be in some vulnerable tadpole state that might preclude their "leaving the nest" until they reach adulthood, at whatever age they do that.  Turians seem more militaristic and uptight than humans do, as a species, so maybe they are like Klingons in Star Trek and simply leave their kids at home until they've finished their school and whatever training they choose to receive until then.  Humans are still based on Earth, right?  There aren't many on the Citadel to begin with.

And then there is the issue of degrees of conspicuousness.  In ME1 and other games like the Fable franchise, there are children, but they all seem to be about the same age.  It makes for an interesting first impression, but they quickly dissolve into the background because they seem generic and same-y.

I wonder why you don't encounter teenagers, though, because teenagers really cause a lot of problems and I can imagine gangs of them on random settlements becoming a problem.  Basically, people with personalities like Jenkins' but with the bodies to match them, so that when they are being bad, Shepard and Friends may feel more inclined to use diplomacy before they just kill the kids off (since the common conecption is that teenagers sometimes misbehave because things beyond their control might influence them easily--and if they just thought about it, they might turn over a new leaf).

I think that little human kids and Turian kids would be cool, though.  They could play capture the flag or cops and robbers all around the Citadel.

[Sursion]

In Mass Effect 1, they said they didn't make female Turians because of time restraints. Well, it's now Mass Effect 2, and I still see no female Turians.



And Salarian females don't leave their home planets. It tells you that in-game.

[Schneidend]

Listen, until you make your own sweeping sci-fi epic, I wouldn't comment on any amount of "laziness" on Bioware's part.

[Oawa]

Wasn't Mouse a "teenager"?

[thisisme8]

I don't remember human children in ME1. Trying to think back, but I got nothin'.

[Satanic Hamster]

Then again, how do you KNOW we haven't seen Turian females?



They're reptiles, so it's not like they're going to have breasts or anything.



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[Conquerthecity]

There are children on The Citadel. I'm too sleep deprived to remember exactly what he says, but during Thane's loyalty misstion, the C-Sec Officer Bailey uses a slang term for the ward kids and if you ask about it he tells how they sometimes pull out tiny bodies out of ventilation shafts because they play in there.

[sejmarty]

Sursion wrote...

And Salarian females don't leave their home planets. It tells you that in-game.

There are exceptions to the rule.  In Mass Effect: Revelation (the novel), there is a female Salarian information broker.

Schneidend wrote...

Listen, until you make your own sweeping sci-fi epic, I wouldn't comment on any amount of "laziness" on Bioware's part.

It takes loads of people, equipment, and funding to make most games, but I don't pretend I like every aspect of them just because they got some or most things right.  If laziness is too broad and offensive for you, perhaps "unwillingness" will get the point across.  They were unwilling to set a release date (or negotiate with EA to that end) that would allow them to round out edges like that.  It's a matter of priority, of course, but once a game is as good as ME2, the little things that would normally seem unimportant tend to stand out a bit more.  It also makes for predictable NPCs.

I mean, I didn't even think about the lack of children or gender diversity among aliens in ME1 because I was constantly trying to avoid being forced into cover.  The other areas that needed improvement were much more glaring and it seemed like a given that there would be no culture or soul in most of the settings or the personalities of random NPCs.

[JudgeQwerty]

The Salarian explanation makes sense. In fact, its the only female explanation thsat makes sense... is it me or does it seem like noone breeds with their own race?

[Jigero]

I was more worried about Krogen females they play alot more major role then salarien females, the only one you see is that dead one in the lab, but she has a tarp on her. I mean, would it have been so hard to atleast have one? You would think at least Wrex would have a mate.



But look on the bright side atleast we got Quarian Males.