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[Elemental_805]

Hi, I was just wondering how the game picks who lives and dies is it bassed on their loyalty to Sheperd or some other reson.

[dirt_empire]

It is based on their loyalty to you, as well as the tasks you assign them once you get to the final mission. Say you assign a Soldier to a Tech Specialist task, more than likely the Soldier will die because they do not understand the job. Not that you can do anything to change their understanding, it's just based on their character.



Essentially, if you want them all to survive make sure they are loyal to you before going through the Omega 4 relay. When you get where you are going male sure to assign them the tasks best suited to their abilities. Otherwise screw around and let them die.

[Sursion]

dirt_empire wrote...

It is based on their loyalty to you, as well as the tasks you assign them once you get to the final mission. Say you assign a Soldier to a Tech Specialist task, more than likely the Soldier will die because they do not understand the job. Not that you can do anything to change their understanding, it's just based on their character.

Essentially, if you want them all to survive make sure they are loyal to you before going through the Omega 4 relay. When you get where you are going male sure to assign them the tasks best suited to their abilities. Otherwise screw around and let them die.

You can't assign people to the jobs that don't have the ability (a soldier through the vents). It's just a matter of choosing the best person for the job.

[BlackwindTheCommander]

Sursion wrote...

dirt_empire wrote...

It is based on their loyalty to you, as well as the tasks you assign them once you get to the final mission. Say you assign a Soldier to a Tech Specialist task, more than likely the Soldier will die because they do not understand the job. Not that you can do anything to change their understanding, it's just based on their character.

Essentially, if you want them all to survive make sure they are loyal to you before going through the Omega 4 relay. When you get where you are going male sure to assign them the tasks best suited to their abilities. Otherwise screw around and let them die.

You can't assign people to the jobs that don't have the ability (a soldier through the vents). It's just a matter of choosing the best person for the job.

You can send Mordin into the vents... hes a doctor not a tech specialist.

[Sursion]

BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

Sursion wrote...

dirt_empire wrote...

It is based on their loyalty to you, as well as the tasks you assign them once you get to the final mission. Say you assign a Soldier to a Tech Specialist task, more than likely the Soldier will die because they do not understand the job. Not that you can do anything to change their understanding, it's just based on their character.

Essentially, if you want them all to survive make sure they are loyal to you before going through the Omega 4 relay. When you get where you are going male sure to assign them the tasks best suited to their abilities. Otherwise screw around and let them die.

You can't assign people to the jobs that don't have the ability (a soldier through the vents). It's just a matter of choosing the best person for the job.

You can send Mordin into the vents... hes a doctor not a tech specialist.

Play the game some more. He has tech powers (incinerate & neural shock)

[atheelogos]

also be sure to upgrade their powers. I had the loyalty of everyone and mordin still died at the gates. I think it was because I didn't upgrade his tech powers. So be sure to do that.

[DarthTrippleOG]

I used Garus fro the vents, he got shot... The lizzard Asassin guy blew up in the ship before i even landed... But i managed to survive!

[Vinditater]

Definitely is based on loyalty and upgraded powers. I didn't upgrade Legion's sniper rifle and he was the only one to die during the suicide mission. Kind of annoying because I really shouldn't have skipped that, I took the time to do everyone elses quests and upgrades.

[Kreidian]

If you upgrade the ship, gain everyone's loyalty, and pick the right people for the job, surviving is pretty easy. Some might think it's a little too easy, but considering how much you have to invest to get to that point it's only fair. Really you just need to be smart about it.

[Elemental_805]

Well Jack and Jacob won`t be coming back

[Mox Ruuga]

Elemental_805 wrote...

Well Jack and Jacob won`t be coming back

Heh heh, the suicide mission IS good for culling out undesirables from your playthrough. And to keep the riff raff out from ME3. Although even the possibility of everyone dying WILL be enough to limit the survivors' future roles.

[Dave of Canada]

If you didn't want your romance in ME1, you could get them virmire'd. In Mass Effect 2, we got them Collector Base'd. It doesn't have the same ring to it, though.

[MentalKase]

I didn't have any problem with the everyone surviving the Suicide mission. I don't really know how it works but before I started everone was loyal. I had Legion hack the door. Because Jack through a hissy fit about Miranda leading the fire team I put Garrus in charge. Then had Jacob take the surviors back to the Normandy. Samara put up the biotic barrier to escort me, Grunt and Zaeed through the swarm while Garrus lead the second team again. And I left Garrus encharge of the reguard while I took Miranda and Thane to destroy the Human Reaper Larva.



Everyone survived.

[ViessaKarde]

Its strange, I've seen a lot of people reporting that they "Got everything, upgraded everything, and even still such and such died"



That and I'm hearing people claim that they'll lose somebody, reload the save and swap people's tasks around and suddenly everyone survived. Or swapping people will save others that died in other saves. I just did a few tests with reloading mine and for me its surefire that if Jack and Samara do the biotics, Tali or Legion or Mordin into the vents, and Jacob, Thane or Garrus as the escorter of your crew then everyone lives. But thats just with my game of course.



Point is, seems there's still that smidgen of luck that comes into play. I'd really, really like to know if there's some sort of random number generator in the background, or if there's a 100% surefire way of having everyone live.

[Yai-Kai]

Tali - unloyal (wrong choice... damnit) died running through the door, bloody sniper!

Zaeed - loyal, died defending the second wave. Don't really see how, as he is supposed to be a surviving freak soldier.

Jack - loyal, survived the biotic barrier thing.

Miranda - unloyal (jealous woman!) didn't make it back to the ship...

Didn't send anyone with Chakwas, thought I did a thorough clean but I was wrong it seems...

Had Samara and Garrus with me all the time, both on loyal

[TuringPoint]

Sursion wrote...

dirt_empire wrote...

It is based on their loyalty to you, as well as the tasks you assign them once you get to the final mission. Say you assign a Soldier to a Tech Specialist task, more than likely the Soldier will die because they do not understand the job. Not that you can do anything to change their understanding, it's just based on their character.

Essentially, if you want them all to survive make sure they are loyal to you before going through the Omega 4 relay. When you get where you are going male sure to assign them the tasks best suited to their abilities. Otherwise screw around and let them die.

You can't assign people to the jobs that don't have the ability (a soldier through the vents). It's just a matter of choosing the best person for the job.

You can pick Jacob to go in the vents.  He even "volunteers" to go, then it brings up a screen where - I'm pretty sure - everyone is available to be chosen.

[asaiasai]

I lost Thane he was the only one who did not make it, but as i now know and have a save before the final mission i will probably do it again just as i did it the first time and assign someone else to the vent like Tali.



Asai

[DerkontheForum]

MentalKase wrote...

I didn't have any problem with the everyone surviving the Suicide mission. I don't really know how it works but before I started everone was loyal. I had Legion hack the door. Because Jack through a hissy fit about Miranda leading the fire team I put Garrus in charge. Then had Jacob take the surviors back to the Normandy. Samara put up the biotic barrier to escort me, Grunt and Zaeed through the swarm while Garrus lead the second team again. And I left Garrus encharge of the reguard while I took Miranda and Thane to destroy the Human Reaper Larva.

Everyone survived.

Hey I did this too! Except I had Miranda and Garrus in my first party. Then I had Legion and Thane for the biotic barrier and Legion and Garrus for the final battle...... O when Miranda got shot were you like," No!" and then really relieved when she said she was ready to go? Also, I thought Garrus and Legion died.... I was pretty sad, but then Shep turns Garrus over and he was alive and he pulls the rock off of Legion and he was alive.

O a side note was anyone else in awe by Shep's super jump..... That's one white guy without white man's disease!

[Filbert13]

When I playing I had the ship fully upgraded so the problems there. I also had every one loyal but Jack (picked the wrong thing to say lol)... And I had most of the upgrades but not all...

I sent Mordin in the vents but he was shot closing the door and was killed

I had Jack set up the barrier and she live

Jacob was killed by a swam of the bugs

I had Garrus lead the first team no problems

Miranda lead the next team no problems

And Zaeed lead the crew back to the ship no problems



So I only had Mordin and Jacob die...both were loyal but either due to tech not fully upgraded or wrong choice for the mission they both didn't make it.



I am playing though again though so I will see how that turns out

[Nebular]

Tali took a rocket to the head after doing the vents and I cheered. Unfortunately Zaeed died from his wounds while leading the other squad for a 2nd time. I should have sent Jack instead. Crew didn't make it either, but they knew what they signed up for.

[ufcbrian1992]

I had Legion in the vents and he got hit with the rocket in the face...... Zaeed led the first team, Miranda the second, and then the leader for staying back to guard the door. Sent Jacob to bring the survivors to the ship. Grunt and Garrus were with me first, then Grunt and Zaeed....... Jack ended up dying defending the door. So only Legion and Jack died for me.



EDIT: Who decided to keep the Collector ship intact?

Modifié par ufcbrian1992, 30 janvier 2010 - 06:46 .

[jmf4]

All right. After being mad the first time I beat it (I lost 3 of my squad) I played it again and everyone survived. I had all loyalty (except Zaeed the second time) and all upgrades to ship and squad members.

First time:

Did Zaeed's loyalty mission immediately after my crew was kidnapped. Then scanned a few planets, talked to my crew, and took the Omega 4 relay. (I had locked about 36 hours of time played when I took the relay.)

Vent: Thane (Died)

Alternate Squad Leader: Miranda (Lived)

My squad: Samara and Garrus (Both Lived)

Crew: Half survived

Crew Escorter: Grunt (Lived)

Biotic Protection: Jack (Lived)

Alternate Squad Leader: Zaeed (Died)

My squad: Miranda and Garrus (Both Lived)

Final Squad: Miranda and Garrus (Both Lived)

Remainder Squad Leader: Jacob (I think) (Lived)

Mordin was randomly killed

3 dead total - Thane, Zaeed, Mordin



Second time: (Reload of save immediately after crew kidnapped)

Took the Omega 4 relay immediately after crew was kidnapped. It was about 34 hours of time played when I left.

Vent: Legion (Lived)

Alternate Squad Leader: Miranda (Lived)

My squad: Samara and Grunt (Both Lived)

Crew: All survived

Crew Escorter: Jacob (Lived)

Biotic Protection: Jack (Lived)

Alternate Squad: Miranda (Shot - Panic on my part for a brief second - said she was ok. Lived)

My squad: Samara and Grunt (Both Lived)

Final Squad: Miranda and Mordin (Both Lived)

Remainder Squad Leader: I wasn't given a choice! Must've been a glitch or something. (Thane was the one on the comm. at the end. Very strange)

No random kills.

0 dead total



Hope this is useful to someone

[Elemental_805]

So if people survie based on what job you give them, whats the point of loyalty

[Nobz Giblitz]

O I get it.  In my playthrough everyone survived but Jacob and Jack.  Jack I knew because I couldn't get my paragon full before the end in order to gain more loyalty after Jack and Mirandas fight.  And now I somewhat understand why Jacob died.  Because I probably picked him to do the wrong thing at the end.  (lol rocket to the face though).  So I hope I can save them now.

[AubreyFleming]

Well this is how I did this and everyone from my crew stayed alive, everyone even normal crew.



I put Legion into vents and Garrus as a sqad team leader. And I picked Miranda and Zaeed to my squad.



Then I sent Tali back to the ship with crew (which whole survived).



And I picked Samara to shield my team from bug, and had Miranda and Zaeed again.

Garrus again as other leader and it was fine.



Noone got killed and I saved whole crew