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[camcon2100]

Elemental_805 wrote...

So if people survie based on what job you give them, whats the point of loyalty

Loyalty still plays and effect if you send legion through the vents even all upgraded he can still die. Its based on both assets. I lost Thane and started to cry

[Bad Byte]

First time



Crew: rescued

Dead: Jack - death by laserbeam shot at Normandy. Jacob - death by collector gunfire

Survivors: All important characters

[JRCHOharry]

First time:



Jack - She just appeared dead on the floor, i assumed she got overwhelmed.

Grunt - took away by those swarms... dunno how, hes a frigging BRUTE!

and Legion died - Hit by Harbingers missile in the face... Shame, i upgraded his shields and his weapons.



Everyone else made it alive

[deserttfoxx]

I lose miranda and samara.. im doing it again, miranda was a **** but i actually like samara.

[daidailo]

I lost garrus and thane on my first playthrough which made me very very sad..



garrus - shot in the face coming out the vents



thane - "shields didn't hold"

[0utlier]

Only lost Mordin on door defense team my first time.



Only crew survivor was the Doc tho... yeah I took my sweet time getting there.

[SupidSeep]

I poured time/resources into upgrading everything and getting everyone's loyalty, before the IFF and stormed O4 immediately after:



Everyone survived the controlled crash landing:



Part 1: Tali on vents, Garrus as alternate squadleader



Part 2: Jacob on crew escort, Jack on barrier, Miranda as alternate



Part 3: Miranda on rearguard, took Mordin & Samara



All squadmates survived, I'm not sure about the crew but I think the named chars are present.

[Railstay]

Kreidian wrote...

If you upgrade the ship, gain everyone's loyalty, and pick the right people for the job, surviving is pretty easy. Some might think it's a little too easy, but considering how much you have to invest to get to that point it's only fair. Really you just need to be smart about it.

That's weird...  I lost Legion in the vents and Mordin on the second fire team, but everyone was upgraded to the max.

You would think these decisions make perfect sense.  Legion is the best hacker in the game, has a familiarity with Reaper technology and is a completely fearless machine immune to pain or organic injury.  But he still died.

Mordin led a salarian STG team on two successful suicide missions into Tuchanka, and several more recon missions before and after that, yet he dies on the fire team.

Damn you, arbitrary game class discriminator!

Modifié par Railstay, 31 janvier 2010 - 04:01 .

[alek2702]

First time:



everyone survived, even though Jack and Zaeed weren't loyal and i didn't upgrade my team (the ship was upgraded though)



Legion- the vents

Miranda - alt squad leader both times

Samara- the barrier

Tali- crew escort

Garrus and Thane on my team

[Criz]

I should have picked more carefully then... managed to save everyone 'cept Mordin,
during the biotic vs swarm part I had assigned him to another task and was surprised he didn't make it
where's the paragon interupt t apply medi-gel when you really need it?!

my first though was that maybe I had taken too long to get through
though it didn't show some bar like with the one in the ducts did it?
his last words were just...

[Inriri]

My first time:



-Had all ship upgrades. Only got a few of the upgrades for the teammates. All loyal

-Had Legion do the vents

-Miranda was Fireteam leader both times

-All the crew survived. Had Mordin escort them

-Jack escorted us through the swarm

-Blew up the base



Did all this with Tali and Garrus. No deaths. Then I told the Illusive Man to go **** himself

[transinfinity0]

I got lucky and everyone survived the first time. I made sure everyone was loyal before heading to the Omega 4 relay. I had Legion in the vent (though Tali may be just as good). I figured someone mainly inorganic would survive better. Garrus led the rest of the team the first time and Jacob the second time. Jacob got wounded but he recovered. I sent Samara back with the rescued crew and they all survived. I used Jack to hold back the swarm (having been repeatedly told she was the most powerful biotic.). No problem.

[Elemental_805]

I just did the mission, Jacob died from sniper after doing the vents and hacking, then I sent the crew back to the normandy without an escort and they all died. I`m thinking of replaying the mission, but I want my choises to mater.

[SupidSeep]

Actually, with a little thought, the choices are pretty obvious when you carefully consider each squaddie's abilities.



Vent specialist: A tech expert, more precisely a MECHANICAL tech expert. Some may have failed to note the distinction (Mordin was a DOCTOR) and paid for it. For me, Tali was obvious - Quarians are considered to be the best at mechanical tech among the known races. Some have gotten through with Legion, which isn't surprising on hindsight.



Alternate squad leader: Someone with command/leadership abilities/experience. The correct squaddies are pretty obvious - if you get this wrong you should clobber yourself. My choice of Garrus is a no-brainer - he was ****ing off half of Omega with a squad of ten, which I think is a scary thing to put on a squadleader resume. I switched to Miranda for the second part because her qualifications look good (and one reason I didn't put her first is because Jack raised a stink on it) plus I thought Garrus needed a break.



Biotic shield specialist: Not just any biotic, you want a STRONG biotic. Asari are among the strongest biotic species in the galaxy - Samara. I didn't go with her though - I picked Jack after looking at her dossier and it was a good choice - she was said to be THE most powerful human biotic (created via experimentation).



Crew escort: Ok, this one does not seem obvious. I sent Jacob because he was a former Alliance soldier.

[Series5Ranger]

MentalKase wrote...

I didn't have any problem with the everyone surviving the Suicide mission. I don't really know how it works but before I started everone was loyal. I had Legion hack the door. Because Jack through a hissy fit about Miranda leading the fire team I put Garrus in charge. Then had Jacob take the surviors back to the Normandy. Samara put up the biotic barrier to escort me, Grunt and Zaeed through the swarm while Garrus lead the second team again. And I left Garrus encharge of the reguard while I took Miranda and Thane to destroy the Human Reaper Larva.

Everyone survived.

]
Everyone was Loyal
I had Jacob lead the Fire team.
Tali to do the tunnel crawl
Garrus lead the crew back to the Normandy
Samara put up the barrier (Asari are widely known as the best biotics in the Galaxy, this was an easy choice)
Jacob again to lead the door squad
Grunt, Tali and I took on the Human-Reaper
Everyone survived


*Notes
*Doing Jacob's loyalty quest is important, because it shows him what it means to be a good leader.
*Make sure the ship has all 3 major upgrades (Garrus's Thanix Gun, Tali's Oscillating Shields, and Jacob's new Hull Plating)
*Getting the Scanner upgrade, and the Probe capacity upgrade will help in getting the Resources needed to finish the mission.
*get whoever you want to survive Loyal

Modifié par Series5Ranger, 01 février 2010 - 03:47 .

[ParaB]

Does anyone know what triggers the seemingly random death while fighting the Reaper? 1st time Mordin got killed (full loyal), second time Zayeed (only 'normal' loyalty).

[Series5Ranger]

ParaB wrote...

Does anyone know what triggers the seemingly random death while fighting the Reaper? 1st time Mordin got killed (full loyal), second time Zayeed (only 'normal' loyalty).

Might have something to do with if they Haven't been Unity Revived or Loyal when you take the killshot. Might also be the Level of Difficulty has a random Death algorithim in it.

[i love lamp x3]

everyone lived in mine, no deaths

for my squad i chose tali and thane the whole way through

sent legion into the vents

for both alternate parties garrus was the leader

i chose zaeed to escort the crew back (all lived)

also i had them hold the door. i havent seen any mention of that so idek if you can't have them hold the door but just sayin

had samara lead me through the bugs

yeah so hope this helps someone. i chose garrus because i know he can get the job done and his side mission was about how awful he felt about losing his squad. the only maybe illogical choice was zaeed, but reading his description convinced me

oh and i upgraded the ship totally (except the dermal regen unit because i was planning to be paragon anyway..) and had everyone's loyalty and upgraded everyone's weapons.. my shepard wasn't fully upgraded but i made sure everyone else was ready to go. i also updated everyone's level (as in, used up all their squad points), if that matters. tali almost died at the end in a cutscene where shepard leaped of a ledge to save her. i almost peed myself because he kept missing her hand but finally caught her (she was my li)

ALSO.. i played on veteran, if that has anything to do with it

Modifié par i love lamp x3, 01 février 2010 - 04:04 .

[crackshot91]

I made sure everyone survived. Even Jack, though all she says now is "**** off!" when I go to talk to her, because I was trying to be nice and before I realized it she was trying to jump my bones. I'm Tali's man now, and the only way to let Jack go was to be a douche.

I didn't get EVERY weapon/armor/prototype upgrade but I got pretty damn close. The ship was fully pimped out, though. Scanning planets = meh.

I had everyone loyal except Legion and Zaeed. Zaeed because I was going full paragon and stopped his revenge, and Legion because I went to the Heretic Station and the Collectors boarded the Normandy, so I high-tailed it to the Omega 4 Relay fully expecting to lose some people. I almost put Legion in the vents, but I decided on my GF (Tali) because she was fully upgraded and outfitted. Nearly pissed my pants when I heard her screaming in the vents. Went Commando on the Harbinger with the Inferno Krogan Shotty to get to the vent in the nick of time. Nearly sharted myself. Kept Tali with me the rest of the way, and now she's sitting comfortably on my couch listening to tunes waiting for more side missions with me and Samara.

I love this game!!!

Modifié par crackshot91, 01 février 2010 - 04:13 .

[malkuth74]

Kinda sucks because when you try to replay the mission from the Replay Collector Base Save it starts you out with your first choices already.

So for me Legion dies as the tech.  Totally bumbed I can't change it.  Seems when I have been saving I have been overwriting a preivous save.  But I thought a new area always saved a new file, but nope overwrite the old one even with a new name.

Now I guess I have to live with the Loss.

[Orlfane]

My first playthrough had one death

Sent Thane into the vents, ended up dying to a rocket in the face.
Zaeed led the other team here. Team survived.

Samara held the biotic barrier. She and my team survive.
Garrus led the distraction team, looked like he took a shot to the gut, but apparently no harm done. Team Survived.

Jacob led the crew to the normandy. All crew and Jacob survive.

Took tali and grunt with me to the human reaper. Both survived.

It was real sad to see the one casket at the end with Thane in it, I really liked him as a character. On my 2nd playthrough now (which isn't going as fast as I wanted, I guess Vanguard + Hardcore don't mix too well at the start) and hope to get everyone out alive.

What I really would like to be 100% sure on is what affects the outcomes of the choices. My brother chose Tali to go into the vents and she died (he, of course, restarted the mission), while others are reporting she survived. Some report Legion surviving the vent and one or two say he died.

[Vioitty]

All ship upgrades, weapon and tech upgrades (apart from three sniper rifle updates), everybody loyal (even Zaeed, I loved punching him in the face)

Tech: Legion - he's a freaking machine
fire team leader: Miranda both times - she seems like the most stable out of all the team, and a good leader.
Biotic: Samara - she's an asari, natural biotic, and not insane
Escort: Grunt - who's going to mess with a jacked up krogan? Since it was one escort, it made the most sense to me.
Team: Tali and Thane, until the end boss in which I took Jacob instead of Tali (inferno ammo against collectors ftw)

Destroyed the collector base, told the illusive man to GTFO, and took all the team and normandy with me .

Though now I am fearing liara's wrath in ME3. I'll tell her I was just trying to make a dying man happy!

Modifié par Vioitty, 01 février 2010 - 04:48 .

[Bio Addict]

When I first heard about how the main questline of ME2 would work I was really excited to see who would live and who would die based on the decisions I would make. This is because I assumed the survival rate would be based on RPing decisions you were making but actually it's more based on common sense decisions. I was determined not to break character in order to gain loyalty but I didn't find anyone's request to be unreasonable and everyone survived my first play through.

[Bio Addict]

Okay so from this and other threads here's what we have so far:



Tech specialist: a loyal Tali or Legion can survive but seem to also die if you don't pick the right 2nd Team Leader



2nd Team Leader (2 times): a loyal Garrus, Jacob, or Miranda seem to do fine



Biotic Guardian: a loyal Samara or Jack will work anyone else will tire towards the end causing, not their death, but the death of one charcter that you have with you at the time



Crew Escort: this one seems to be the easiest decision, unsurprising given how open to interpretation the task is, so far it seems anyone loyal to you will make it back alive but you can no longer use them in your squad.



Some reports of Mordin randomly dieing for no reason leads me to believe maybe the character weapon or tech upgrads may also play a part.

[malderon]

(All my characters were loyal)

I sent Legion into the vents, (I thought Tali might do a better job but didnt want to risk her because

Garrus lead both secondary "Fire" teams, felt like I trusted him the most and he has been leading a team in the interim years and I felt like other characters didnt really like Miranda even though she was the "obvious" choice. As stated above I feared the worst when he took a hit, but he made it.

Samara provided me the barrier, I felt she was the most powerful at that kind of biotics, Jack is a bit too crazy and unstable, and Miranda isn't as powerful as those two.

Jacob went back with the survivors, he's that kind of guy, and can handle himself and protect civilians.

Grunt and Thane stayed with me throughout.

Everyone survived! I was delighted.

Modifié par malderon, 01 février 2010 - 08:34 .