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Bumb48 wrote...

It will probably be all new party members. Seeing as how every one of your party members can die in ME2, Bioware won't include them as party members in the finale, because not all of them will be available to everyone. It's the same reason Wrex, Ashley or Kaiden aren't party members in ME2.


Bioware isn't stupid enough to make the same mistake twice.

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As long as Miranda and Garrus are in It I will be satisfied. I suspect that Tali will also need to be included based on the fan base for that character.

Based on the fact that pretty much every product Bioware delivers is amazing, I have faith that they won't leave out characters people like or that have story attached to them ala the LIs from both games.

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Emperor Muad-Dib wrote...

As long as Miranda and Garrus are in It I will be satisfied. I suspect that Tali will also need to be included based on the fan base for that character.


Mhm. Bioware listens to the fans. It isn't that hard for them to write them in as squaddies for ME3.

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I thought the excuse for Wrex not being able to be recruited was that he could die in ME1. If that was really the reason then it would stand to reason that any squad member that could die in ME2 won't be able to be recruited in ME3.

In fact I thought it had been posted somewhere in the other forum that someone had been at one of the events or something and had asked about ME3 and the dev he asked said something about they had already started discussing possible characters for a new team. The way it sounded was that a whole new team would be created.


That was me.  I asked at CES and Jesse mentioned that they were looking at a whole new squad.  He later redacted on that for obvious reasons but I'm sure they're considering it.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Emperor Muad-Dib wrote...

As long as Miranda and Garrus are in It I will be satisfied. I suspect that Tali will also need to be included based on the fan base for that character.


Mhm. Bioware listens to the fans. It isn't that hard for them to write them in as squaddies for ME3.


I agree, and I sure hope you're right. Bioware is a pretty amazing game producer, which is high praise coming from me. I think its literally been years since I complemented any business.

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I like the list but scratch out modin and jacob and replace with a couple new characters. Mordin is too old probably and jacob is remarkably average in every way.

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I'd rather have new people besides Garrus and Tali again.



They've been in two games all ready...enough of them!

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I really hope that we get a chance to have a lot of our ME1/2 squad mates back. I would love it if ME3 was rallying the troops and being able to go pick up any allies you've made in the previous 2 games. I would especially like it if perhaps a sequence of bad choices in the previous games mean its not actually possible to save the galaxy (Like if you kill the rachni queen, detroy the heretic geth, tell the council where they can stick it with the spectres, kill Wrex, get Tali exiled, destroy the collector base and let almost all your ME2 squadmates die then you just don't have the resources to pull it off).Even if that means that some content will simply not exist in some games.



To the naysayers on that front - do keep in mind that in ME1 you didn't have to take Wrex or Garrus along so there was content for each of them that some people may never have seen and it was the same in ME 2 - Grunt & Legion don't have to be woken up and though I haven't tried it yet I expect you can get away without recruiting some of the others as well. At the minimum Grunt, Legion have a lot of content that was written for them that a number of players will never see due to their choices.



Really though I will put up with however they want to handle it in ME3 as long as I can have Garrus back in my team.



If I don't get him I will be pissed off. I may cry. And my paragon shep will go on a crazy rampage through the galaxy, chewing out any replacement squadies, telling everyone to go f--- themselves and then sitting back and watching as the reapers kill everyone (or eat them or mutate them or whatever it is they want to do) because if Shep can't have her best friend back then why are any of these jerks worth saving.



And OK, that's sort of melodramatic.



But seriously. Garrus. Need Garrus back.



And I really will go crazy renegade and let the galaxy die if he's not there to stop me.

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jlb524 wrote...

I'd rather have new people besides Garrus and Tali again.

They've been in two games all ready...enough of them!


Quiet, you. :devil:

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I really hope that we get a chance to have a lot of our ME1/2 squad mates back. I would love it if ME3 was rallying the troops and being able to go pick up any allies you've made in the previous 2 games. I would especially like it if perhaps a sequence of bad choices in the previous games mean its not actually possible to save the galaxy (Like if you kill the rachni queen, detroy the heretic geth, tell the council where they can stick it with the spectres, kill Wrex, get Tali exiled, destroy the collector base and let almost all your ME2 squadmates die then you just don't have the resources to pull it off).Even if that means that some content will simply not exist in some games.

To the naysayers on that front - do keep in mind that in ME1 you didn't have to take Wrex or Garrus along so there was content for each of them that some people may never have seen and it was the same in ME 2 - Grunt & Legion don't have to be woken up and though I haven't tried it yet I expect you can get away without recruiting some of the others as well. At the minimum Grunt, Legion have a lot of content that was written for them that a number of players will never see due to their choices.

Really though I will put up with however they want to handle it in ME3 as long as I can have Garrus back in my team.

If I don't get him I will be pissed off. I may cry. And my paragon shep will go on a crazy rampage through the galaxy, chewing out any replacement squadies, telling everyone to go f--- themselves and then sitting back and watching as the reapers kill everyone (or eat them or mutate them or whatever it is they want to do) because if Shep can't have her best friend back then why are any of these jerks worth saving.

And OK, that's sort of melodramatic.

But seriously. Garrus. Need Garrus back.

And I really will go crazy renegade and let the galaxy die if he's not there to stop me.


Garrus and Wrex were essentially shoved down your throat.  You had to go way out of your way not to have them and the game probably just read it as being dead.  Wrex had a pretty minor role overall and Garrus was a safe pick.  However Garrus can easily be dead in many games and pretty much all of the ME2 squad.  The ME1 squad was alot smaller too which makes things easier.  Now if they decided to go all out then that will probably reduce the overall content of the game a bit as you have to pay each VA and that is one of the more expensive parts.  It would be a hell of a conclusion if you did have a 20 person squad with 10 old and 10 new.  However the problem with that is too many characters would feel too much like the other ones due to the limited powers and abilities.

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AlphaJarmel wrote...

Kenleigh wrote...

I really hope that we get a chance to have a lot of our ME1/2 squad mates back. I would love it if ME3 was rallying the troops and being able to go pick up any allies you've made in the previous 2 games. I would especially like it if perhaps a sequence of bad choices in the previous games mean its not actually possible to save the galaxy (Like if you kill the rachni queen, detroy the heretic geth, tell the council where they can stick it with the spectres, kill Wrex, get Tali exiled, destroy the collector base and let almost all your ME2 squadmates die then you just don't have the resources to pull it off).Even if that means that some content will simply not exist in some games.

To the naysayers on that front - do keep in mind that in ME1 you didn't have to take Wrex or Garrus along so there was content for each of them that some people may never have seen and it was the same in ME 2 - Grunt & Legion don't have to be woken up and though I haven't tried it yet I expect you can get away without recruiting some of the others as well. At the minimum Grunt, Legion have a lot of content that was written for them that a number of players will never see due to their choices.

Really though I will put up with however they want to handle it in ME3 as long as I can have Garrus back in my team.

If I don't get him I will be pissed off. I may cry. And my paragon shep will go on a crazy rampage through the galaxy, chewing out any replacement squadies, telling everyone to go f--- themselves and then sitting back and watching as the reapers kill everyone (or eat them or mutate them or whatever it is they want to do) because if Shep can't have her best friend back then why are any of these jerks worth saving.

And OK, that's sort of melodramatic.

But seriously. Garrus. Need Garrus back.

And I really will go crazy renegade and let the galaxy die if he's not there to stop me.


Garrus and Wrex were essentially shoved down your throat.  You had to go way out of your way not to have them and the game probably just read it as being dead.  Wrex had a pretty minor role overall and Garrus was a safe pick.  However Garrus can easily be dead in many games and pretty much all of the ME2 squad.  The ME1 squad was alot smaller too which makes things easier.  Now if they decided to go all out then that will probably reduce the overall content of the game a bit as you have to pay each VA and that is one of the more expensive parts.  It would be a hell of a conclusion if you did have a 20 person squad with 10 old and 10 new.  However the problem with that is too many characters would feel too much like the other ones due to the limited powers and abilities.


I really, really, really, REALLY doubt they will add many new characters. a couple sure but i doubt a full lineup. lol

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KainrycKarr wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Kenleigh wrote...

I really hope that we get a chance to have a lot of our ME1/2 squad mates back. I would love it if ME3 was rallying the troops and being able to go pick up any allies you've made in the previous 2 games. I would especially like it if perhaps a sequence of bad choices in the previous games mean its not actually possible to save the galaxy (Like if you kill the rachni queen, detroy the heretic geth, tell the council where they can stick it with the spectres, kill Wrex, get Tali exiled, destroy the collector base and let almost all your ME2 squadmates die then you just don't have the resources to pull it off).Even if that means that some content will simply not exist in some games.

To the naysayers on that front - do keep in mind that in ME1 you didn't have to take Wrex or Garrus along so there was content for each of them that some people may never have seen and it was the same in ME 2 - Grunt & Legion don't have to be woken up and though I haven't tried it yet I expect you can get away without recruiting some of the others as well. At the minimum Grunt, Legion have a lot of content that was written for them that a number of players will never see due to their choices.

Really though I will put up with however they want to handle it in ME3 as long as I can have Garrus back in my team.

If I don't get him I will be pissed off. I may cry. And my paragon shep will go on a crazy rampage through the galaxy, chewing out any replacement squadies, telling everyone to go f--- themselves and then sitting back and watching as the reapers kill everyone (or eat them or mutate them or whatever it is they want to do) because if Shep can't have her best friend back then why are any of these jerks worth saving.

And OK, that's sort of melodramatic.

But seriously. Garrus. Need Garrus back.

And I really will go crazy renegade and let the galaxy die if he's not there to stop me.


Garrus and Wrex were essentially shoved down your throat.  You had to go way out of your way not to have them and the game probably just read it as being dead.  Wrex had a pretty minor role overall and Garrus was a safe pick.  However Garrus can easily be dead in many games and pretty much all of the ME2 squad.  The ME1 squad was alot smaller too which makes things easier.  Now if they decided to go all out then that will probably reduce the overall content of the game a bit as you have to pay each VA and that is one of the more expensive parts.  It would be a hell of a conclusion if you did have a 20 person squad with 10 old and 10 new.  However the problem with that is too many characters would feel too much like the other ones due to the limited powers and abilities.


I really, really, really, REALLY doubt they will add many new characters. a couple sure but i doubt a full lineup. lol


Again it makes more sense and it seems a completely new squad is an option they're considering so they do have some ideas about new members.  You will have to have some new members for the newbies(players) in the trilogy.  I rather doubt that even half the squad in ME3 will be old members.  Not to mention many of the characters fill the same role, Liara and Samara or Ashley and Zaheed or Wrex and Grunt.

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 01 février 2010 - 06:47 .


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KainrycKarr wrote...

Tali returns as an LI and squadmate, or people die.

:devil:


LMAO AGREED! I'd have your back!

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sliverofamoon wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Tali returns as an LI and squadmate, or people die.

:devil:


LMAO AGREED! I'd have your back!


ditto.

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AlphaJarmel wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Kenleigh wrote...

I really hope that we get a chance to have a lot of our ME1/2 squad mates back. I would love it if ME3 was rallying the troops and being able to go pick up any allies you've made in the previous 2 games. I would especially like it if perhaps a sequence of bad choices in the previous games mean its not actually possible to save the galaxy (Like if you kill the rachni queen, detroy the heretic geth, tell the council where they can stick it with the spectres, kill Wrex, get Tali exiled, destroy the collector base and let almost all your ME2 squadmates die then you just don't have the resources to pull it off).Even if that means that some content will simply not exist in some games.

To the naysayers on that front - do keep in mind that in ME1 you didn't have to take Wrex or Garrus along so there was content for each of them that some people may never have seen and it was the same in ME 2 - Grunt & Legion don't have to be woken up and though I haven't tried it yet I expect you can get away without recruiting some of the others as well. At the minimum Grunt, Legion have a lot of content that was written for them that a number of players will never see due to their choices.

Really though I will put up with however they want to handle it in ME3 as long as I can have Garrus back in my team.

If I don't get him I will be pissed off. I may cry. And my paragon shep will go on a crazy rampage through the galaxy, chewing out any replacement squadies, telling everyone to go f--- themselves and then sitting back and watching as the reapers kill everyone (or eat them or mutate them or whatever it is they want to do) because if Shep can't have her best friend back then why are any of these jerks worth saving.

And OK, that's sort of melodramatic.

But seriously. Garrus. Need Garrus back.

And I really will go crazy renegade and let the galaxy die if he's not there to stop me.


Garrus and Wrex were essentially shoved down your throat.  You had to go way out of your way not to have them and the game probably just read it as being dead.  Wrex had a pretty minor role overall and Garrus was a safe pick.  However Garrus can easily be dead in many games and pretty much all of the ME2 squad.  The ME1 squad was alot smaller too which makes things easier.  Now if they decided to go all out then that will probably reduce the overall content of the game a bit as you have to pay each VA and that is one of the more expensive parts.  It would be a hell of a conclusion if you did have a 20 person squad with 10 old and 10 new.  However the problem with that is too many characters would feel too much like the other ones due to the limited powers and abilities.


I really, really, really, REALLY doubt they will add many new characters. a couple sure but i doubt a full lineup. lol


Again it makes more sense and it seems a completely new squad is an option they're considering so they do have some ideas about new members.  You will have to have some new members for the newbies(players) in the trilogy.  I rather doubt that even half the squad in ME3 will be old members.  Not to mention many of the characters fill the same role, Liara and Samara or Ashley and Zaheed or Wrex and Grunt.


You are ignoring one blatant fact; fans do not want that many new people!

There is a workaround for all of this.

Look at the support groups, threads, etc. You can easily figure out the most popular characters. (Tali/Garrus/Thane/Miranda, etc). Make the top few most popular characters guaranteed squaddies. Their survival can be made canon. Remember, Shepard can die too in ME2 and have the game end; but the import will not continue into ME3. They can do the same thing for certain characters.

The less popular characters, you have them optional, or pull a morinth, and you can pick either the old squaddie or the new, depending on who survived.

The simple fact is that Bioware listens to it's fans. Fans cleary, evidenced by threads, groups, etc, want their favorites to return. It is not hard to make that happen.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Kenleigh wrote...

I really hope that we get a chance to have a lot of our ME1/2 squad mates back. I would love it if ME3 was rallying the troops and being able to go pick up any allies you've made in the previous 2 games. I would especially like it if perhaps a sequence of bad choices in the previous games mean its not actually possible to save the galaxy (Like if you kill the rachni queen, detroy the heretic geth, tell the council where they can stick it with the spectres, kill Wrex, get Tali exiled, destroy the collector base and let almost all your ME2 squadmates die then you just don't have the resources to pull it off).Even if that means that some content will simply not exist in some games.

To the naysayers on that front - do keep in mind that in ME1 you didn't have to take Wrex or Garrus along so there was content for each of them that some people may never have seen and it was the same in ME 2 - Grunt & Legion don't have to be woken up and though I haven't tried it yet I expect you can get away without recruiting some of the others as well. At the minimum Grunt, Legion have a lot of content that was written for them that a number of players will never see due to their choices.

Really though I will put up with however they want to handle it in ME3 as long as I can have Garrus back in my team.

If I don't get him I will be pissed off. I may cry. And my paragon shep will go on a crazy rampage through the galaxy, chewing out any replacement squadies, telling everyone to go f--- themselves and then sitting back and watching as the reapers kill everyone (or eat them or mutate them or whatever it is they want to do) because if Shep can't have her best friend back then why are any of these jerks worth saving.

And OK, that's sort of melodramatic.

But seriously. Garrus. Need Garrus back.

And I really will go crazy renegade and let the galaxy die if he's not there to stop me.


Garrus and Wrex were essentially shoved down your throat.  You had to go way out of your way not to have them and the game probably just read it as being dead.  Wrex had a pretty minor role overall and Garrus was a safe pick.  However Garrus can easily be dead in many games and pretty much all of the ME2 squad.  The ME1 squad was alot smaller too which makes things easier.  Now if they decided to go all out then that will probably reduce the overall content of the game a bit as you have to pay each VA and that is one of the more expensive parts.  It would be a hell of a conclusion if you did have a 20 person squad with 10 old and 10 new.  However the problem with that is too many characters would feel too much like the other ones due to the limited powers and abilities.


I really, really, really, REALLY doubt they will add many new characters. a couple sure but i doubt a full lineup. lol


Again it makes more sense and it seems a completely new squad is an option they're considering so they do have some ideas about new members.  You will have to have some new members for the newbies(players) in the trilogy.  I rather doubt that even half the squad in ME3 will be old members.  Not to mention many of the characters fill the same role, Liara and Samara or Ashley and Zaheed or Wrex and Grunt.


You are ignoring one blatant fact; fans do not want that many new people!

There is a workaround for all of this.

Look at the support groups, threads, etc. You can easily figure out the most popular characters. (Tali/Garrus/Thane/Miranda, etc). Make the top few most popular characters guaranteed squaddies. Their survival can be made canon. Remember, Shepard can die too in ME2 and have the game end; but the import will not continue into ME3. They can do the same thing for certain characters.

The less popular characters, you have them optional, or pull a morinth, and you can pick either the old squaddie or the new, depending on who survived.

The simple fact is that Bioware listens to it's fans. Fans cleary, evidenced by threads, groups, etc, want their favorites to return. It is not hard to make that happen.


It does not make sense, from a business standpoint, to alienate the fact the most fans want their crew back. Bioware knows this, and has proven consistently in the past that they pay attention to what fans want.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I'd rather have new people besides Garrus and Tali again.

They've been in two games all ready...enough of them!


Quiet, you. :devil:


No, I don't want them back!  I'm Talied and Garrused out.  They were boring in ME1 and only became a little more interesting in ME2.  I want new people.

Besides, what if they're dead...how are they going to be in my game?  I'll need 2 new people to replace them.

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Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure you're going to be wrong about this but we won't find out for a few years anyway so have fun waiting. You're asking the impossible and illogical as from even a simple gameplay standpoint it doesn't make sense. Multiple characters fill the same role in each game so logic suggests one from each category is going to be axed. Just be ready for dissapointment....

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AlphaJarmel wrote...

Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure you're going to be wrong about this but we won't find out for a few years anyway so have fun waiting. You're asking the impossible and illogical as from even a simple gameplay standpoint it doesn't make sense. Multiple characters fill the same role in each game so logic suggests one from each category is going to be axed. Just be ready for dissapointment....


Shepard dies in ME2 = no import for ME3. Bioware listens to it's fans.

The brick wall isn't there. I don't think all the characters will return, but i am willing to bet money some will. It would be an absolute spit in the face to all the character fans if Bioware went with a new crew. Again. And they they know that.

It's hardly impossible. Challenging yes, but impossible is just plain not true.

But go ahead, be as confident as you want. I'm truly not worried about it.

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seeing as they've said that they don't want the players that barely survived the suicide mission to be screwed from the start I'm guessing most of the squadmates won't be from ME2, however they also said that they're ok with doing well in the suicide mission starting you off better, so I think at least 1 or two will continue.

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Based off how ME1 transitioned to ME2, I have a feeling all of the love interest characters won't carry over to the next game. Keep in mind Ash/Kaidan/Liara are all thrown on the back-burner or are dead in ME2.

So, if they do the same thing in ME3, you'd only have Legion, Samara/Morinth, Mordin and Grunt possibly carrying over. Which makes some sense, Legion has the geth civil war, Mordin/Grunt have to deal the Genophage or Krogan's renaissance, and Samara/Morinth will probably be the carry over love-interest like Tali was.

That's a theory, though. I'd really like Tali to be a squad mate in ME3. I'm a huge fan.

Modifié par Mallissin, 01 février 2010 - 07:11 .


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AlphaJarmel wrote...

Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure you're going to be wrong about this but we won't find out for a few years anyway so have fun waiting. You're asking the impossible and illogical as from even a simple gameplay standpoint it doesn't make sense. Multiple characters fill the same role in each game so logic suggests one from each category is going to be axed. Just be ready for dissapointment....


in tales that are epic sagas very few new members are joined at the last act.


I've proposed what they could do was slightly expand the audience to only be variable to whether you lost a lot of people in ME2 or not.

For instance
ME1 - 6 members (one has to die)
ME2 - 10 members - (i think up to 4 can die, not sure what the max is before it all fails, but potentionally any 10 can die)
Me3 - 13/14 members - (it is doubtful if anyone who took losses would lose so much that it would require totally new members)

So you'd have 2 different stories. plus major game changers (Rachni, Wrex).

One where all lived in this case, some of the members who were gonna leave anyways (Zaeed, Samarra).

One where a lot or a few died, those members can be supplemented, while returning members (Liara, and Ash/Kaid) could help fill the void.

Not to mention there are only really 3 real power classes before you start spliting up 'powers'. Biotic, Tech and Soldier.


And then you have the fan card.   Tali, Garrus are fan favorites. Liara and Ash/Kaiden are part of the story for ME3, we got new fan favorites like Thane, Mordin, Legion and Miranda.


Finally.. i'll just repeat what i've told to my friends before.

ME2 just about doubled the squad size. the series - because of it's decision to have anyone possibly die. is going to be incredibly modular.

you don't leave Han Solo and friends in favor of giving Luke a new Chewbacca and Rodian at every new chapter.

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Mallissin wrote...

Based off how ME1 transitioned to ME2, I have a feeling all of the love interest characters won't carry over to the next game. Keep in mind Ash/Kaidan/Liara are all thrown on the back-burner or are dead in ME2.

So, if they do the same thing in ME3, you'd only have Legion, Samara/Morinth, Mordin and Grunt possibly carrying over. Which makes some sense, Legion has the geth civil war, Mordin/Grunt have to deal the Genophage or Krogan's renaissance, and Samara/Morinth will probably be the carry over love-interest like Tali was.

That's a theory, though. I'd really like Tali to be a squad mate in ME3. I'm a huge fan.


Fans hated how they did it, why would Bioware repeat the mistake considering they listen to the fans?

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KainrycKarr wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure you're going to be wrong about this but we won't find out for a few years anyway so have fun waiting. You're asking the impossible and illogical as from even a simple gameplay standpoint it doesn't make sense. Multiple characters fill the same role in each game so logic suggests one from each category is going to be axed. Just be ready for dissapointment....


Shepard dies in ME2 = no import for ME3. Bioware listens to it's fans.

The brick wall isn't there. I don't think all the characters will return, but i am willing to bet money some will. It would be an absolute spit in the face to all the character fans if Bioware went with a new crew. Again. And they they know that.

It's hardly impossible. Challenging yes, but impossible is just plain not true.

But go ahead, be as confident as you want. I'm truly not worried about it.


i think Legion said it best.

If it is impossible then why try, it is only improbable.

Just expand the squad again (they nearly doubled it in the sequel), with just half new, and half survivors.

Have either half survivors (if more then the few that are optional) be recruitable (So if i a player wants to see if he can get Tali and Garrus he/she can do that)

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the pressure the game puts on you to make sure you're fully prepared and everyone survives as well as the achievement for doing so lead me to believe that if you let one or more of your squadmates die you'll just end up with a fewer party member next game.

i think they'll have between 11 and 15 squadmates, with a mix of me, me2 and perhaps a couple new. but, if in your game characters died who WOULD have appeared in 3, then basically their content is just cut. i would guess canon will have most of your squadmates survive, if not all.

this way we are rewarded with more of our beloved squadmates when we succeed. i would even go as far as to say that just starting a game without importing me2 into me3 will net you fewer characters.

i think this works because if you're just starting at me3 (which, even just starting at 2 is a crime against yourself imo) the nostalgia and already knowing characters is not going to do anything for you.. you'll just be confused. and on the other hand, if you let one of your squadmates die.. you probably didn't like them. for me, it got to the point where i could not accept the death of anyone (except maybe zaeed lol).

i'm not holding my breath for kaidan/ashley to make more than a cameo.. but bioware is an incredible company and they might surprise me.

i can't imagine the series without garrus or tali now. they're my favorite characters and, while tali didn't get TOO much development in the first game, they made up for it in the second and of course garrus has learned so much under shepard's command. now i feel like i know them.. the writers really stepped it up for this game. i remember peter molyneux talked about love in fable 2, that was like the big thing. it didn't really work for me though... i didn't even care. this game on the other hand really worked on me. amazing writing.

anyway i'd also like to see miranda and jacob return, as well as thane (though that could go either way). and of course joker will return, as will dr chakwas. btw i loved the liquor sharing scene with chakwas.


all i know is that i really need tali and garrus as squadmates in me3... otherwise i'm going to be incredibly disappointed. but i trust bioware and i think they the characters they've made are central to the awesomeness of the series are what separates it from everything else.. lots of games have shooting, magical attacks and feature epic stories, but none have this kind of character development and subsequent immersion.

Modifié par i love lamp x3, 01 février 2010 - 07:19 .