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#101
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Legion6115 wrote...

First playthrough - Tali died, for some unexplainable reason. She was loyal, upgrades were in order, and she survived the Vents. I didn't even know she was died until I saw Collectors scurrying around her body. "WTF?" was my reaction, because she was available for me to take with into the final confrontation. Could she have somehow died during the barricade attack? If so, what factors into that? Just seemed like chance. It was so random.



I'm pretty sure the barricade thing is random, yeah. By the time I got there, everyone was level 29, fully upgraded, all loyal (except for Legion, whose loyalty I think I lost when he confronted Tali, and I didn't have enough charm/coerce skill to get them to back down, so I backed Tali. Then again, you seem to get a second coerce chance to make it right with him again afterwards,) and Mordin still died for me, at the same place.

With how powerful each of them is, and how easily I was cutting through the Collectors, it seems ridiculous that someone would fall in that scenario. If it's that random then what are you supposed to do if you want everyone to survive? Play through the end scenario a dozen times, and hope you get lucky? That's just crap. :|

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Wow epic ending.

Here is my report.

Full Paragon Female/Shepard

Fully upgraded Normandy, All Character Upgrades, All Loyal Characters. Most of the Weapon/Armor Upgrades missing like 1 or 2. I was level 28-29 I belive when I went in. I also went after the crew Immediatly.

I went with logic and story for my choices.

Vent: I chose Tali.  Reason for this, was I knew she was capable, smaller, and I Trusted her. Legion and his loyalty mission was the absolute last thing I did before the crew was taken.  Tali survived ((Everyone Lived))

I took Jack and Grunt with me.

Second Team:  I chose Garrus, Reasoning, I knew what he was capable of, he led a team before. Turrian's are all but raised in the military.  I trusted him without question. I never really trusted Miranda or Jacob. ((Everyone Lived))

Miranda survived getting shot coming through the door.

Saved the Normandy crew: Kelly and Dr K. Though I think Gabby was slush I'm not sure if it was her or a colonist.

Back to the Normandy:  I chose Zaeed to escort them back. He's tough I reasoned. ((Everyone Survived))

The Swarm Teams:  Miranda went with one team. I took Samara with me and Garrus and Grunt. ((Everyone Survived))

Hold the line: I lost Dr. Mordin.
However: Upon a replay of the final mission, I chose him to go back to Normandy instead of Zaeed. ((Everyone Survived. 

Finale:  I took Grunt and Garrus with me. ((In keeping with Wrex and Garrus joining me during the finale of ME1))  Garrus is my rock and Grunt my hardplace. LOL  ((Everyone Survived))

Finale Thoughts
Gameplay wise, I think I lost Mordin because, he was older, I didn't use him much in combat and I missed a minor upgrade. However, he survived the second attempt since I sent him back to Normandy.

Final Thoughts: So offically I lost Dr. Mordin. I belive in keeping with my choices. So I'll be using that save going into ME3. It pained me loosing him, he was probably one of my favorite characters to talk to. 

On a more personal note LOL.
My Shepard hooked up with Liara in ME1, Liara turned grimdark in ME2 and I didn't like where that was going since I'm a Paragon. So I started going after Kelly, and for some strange reason ended up with Garrus LOL. It just seemed like the place she'd go. Two old friends, no one really left that understands them. Scarred mentally and physically..... Damn it and I wanted my Shepard to be a lesbian :P.  To bad Tali wasn't available. DAMN YOU BIOWARE!!!

Modifié par Tevourious, 02 février 2010 - 02:28 .


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has any one got every1 out alive with jack or miranda not loyal?

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shepard survived.

-legion died (specialist)

-zaeed died (he was supposed to be alone, "fire team", don't remember what for)



Just lost a geth and an ultimate ass. So i guess the universe is better now :D

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daguest wrote...

shepard survived.
-legion died (specialist)
-zaeed died (he was supposed to be alone, "fire team", don't remember what for)

Just lost a geth and an ultimate ass. So i guess the universe is better now :D


My exact thoughts too when I got Shep to survive/the same losses as you :D

Except Legion died on the Normandy during the flight to the Collector's base...oops

Modifié par Katsaurs, 01 février 2010 - 05:27 .


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I lost Mordin, Legion and Jack. Only one of those which I was bit sad about was Mordin. I thought I'd lose Miranda and Garrus ( My favorites ) during the mission, but Garrus only took a minor injury at a door and Miranda got stuck under debris, but fortunately made it.

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I managed to get everyone out on my first time through. Tali was my tech specialist, Garrus was my 1st team leader, Thane was the guy I sent back with the crew, Samara was my bio specialist, and Miranda was my 2nd team leader.



Had all loyalty and all upgrades on the Nomandy, and just about all the upgrades everywhere else. Judging from what everyone else is saying, I think that deciding factor is how many upgrades you do prior to to the final mission. I had done everything and gotten every upgrade I could get prior to getting the reaper IFF.

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Only beaten the game once so far, and lost nobody. Everyone was loyal, ship had full upgrades (save med bay), most of the companions had upgrades, and I went for the Omega 4 relay right after my crew was taken. Used Legion for the vents, Miranda and Garrus for the team leader squads, Samara for the biotic shield, and Thane for the crew escort. Didn't really have trouble pulling it off, but we'll see if I'm as lucky again next time. I hear Moridan has a nasty habit of dying a lot.

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i didnt' loose anyone but dr. bastillasmother. i was hoping she died with the first normandy, but alas I was not so graced. had to improvise...

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I must have done something wrong with the tube mission, I've tried Legion, Tali and Garrus but I keep losing the tech. After Garrus died I continued on.

In my last play though I had all ship and nearly all character upgrades. everyone is loyal.
It might have been due to their special unlocked abilities not being upgraded sufficiently.
Went though the Omega-4 relay ASAP after the crew got abducted.

Tubes: garrus, tali, legion. *(all died in my case, but I think its because their stats weren't right )
First mission 2nd team: Samara
I send Zaieed back with the crew.

Biotic shield: Samara (nice biotic shockwave, turning a large barrier into a weapon. :D)
Second mission diversion team: Miranda (her radio messages sounded like she had no problem at all).
Miranda survived being shot.

Final team was Morin and Miranda, left all my heavy hitters behind.
They both survived the human-reaper (don't know if they can die at this point.)
Everyone got away.

I might go back and try to level legion a bit more hoping he can survive the first section.
I like garrus :(

Modifié par hyperforce99, 03 février 2010 - 07:30 .


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hyperforce99 wrote...

I must have done something wrong with the tube mission, I've tried Legion, Tali and Garrus but I keep losing the tech. After Garrus died I continued on.

In my last play though I had all ship and nearly all character upgrades. everyone is loyal.
It might have been due to their special unlocked abilities not being upgraded sufficiently.
Went though the Omega-4 relay ASAP after the crew got abducted.

Tubes: garrus, tali, legion. *(all died in my case, but I think its because their stats weren't right )
First mission 2nd team: Samara
I send Zaieed back with the crew.

Biotic shield: Samara (nice biotic shockwave, turning a large barrier into a weapon. :D)
Second mission diversion team: Miranda (her radio messages sounded like she had no problem at all).
Miranda survived being shot.

Final team was Morin and Miranda, left all my heavy hitters behind.
They both survived the human-reaper (don't know if they can die at this point.)
Everyone got away.

I might go back and try to level legion a bit more hoping he can survive the first section.
I like garrus :(


Did you open up all 8 vents in time? Even if they're loyal, your specialist will die in the ducts if you don't open the vents.

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See I only had One death which was Moridin(I liked him, if you talk to him enough he sings and its one of the greatest moments in game)



Jack Was Pissed at me .



Shep's Squad for endgame mish

Fire Team Lead: Garrius

Tech: Legion

Biotic: Justicular

Lead the crew to saftey:Grunt



Crew Ading Shepard: Zheed, Miranda

Ship -Fully Upgraded Crew Loyality-All crew was "loyal"

except maybe jack(did loyality mish but when you talk to her all she says is ___off)








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Theres a point where you can choose the dialogue "We'd better hurry" - DON'T otherwise the amount of time you spend on the last boss effects how many people die.

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1st Playthrough- Grunt, Mordin, and Zaeed.



Diversion Team Leader-Grunt



Rear Guard Team Member- Mordin



Escort- Zaeed. (He wasn't loyal..so as soon as I chose him and remembered he wasn't loyal I knew I had ****ed up.)

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In my case first play through I sent legion with loyalty he died, well I was annoyed with that then I lost jack who I sent on the distraction team yeah that was a obvious loss my bad there, but I lost no one else.



Now for my second play through I took the time to get all the upgrades make sure every one was loyal and I choose to send tali as my tech expert and she died... now I have to say I am really annoyed at this what am I doing wrong I am told it's possible for them to live I was annoyed I got out of the game to think about it, going to restart the mission and send legion see what happens since I do want the accolade that every one survives.

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well my first playthrough
i was full paragon
everyone was loyacl except zaeed- cause hes a crap character
romanced jack
THOUGHT i had all ship upgrades but i missed one and jack died before we even landed:crying:
kelly also died- dont know why
but every1 else lived

Legion-survived tubes
Garrus-lead both teams
Mordin-brought dr chakwas and co back to ship
Samara-bubble shield
Grunt and Tali- came with me

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All survived :)



1st part

team lead: Miranda

specialist: Legion

crew in team: tali + Grunt

2nd part

Biotic: Samara

Escort: Grunt

Diversion team lead: Jackob

Crew in team: Tali + Legion

3rd part

crew in team: Tali + Legion

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yf2489 wrote...

Gamma626 wrote...

 Switch up every couple of missions. The characters that died for me, were character I only had for 1-2 missions.


Interesting...Now that i think about it. This happned for me as well. Good observation.


Nah thats not it, you just have to send them to their proper positions, Tali in the vent but be quick so she wont be pressure cooked, Miranda as leader and Jack as my biotic. Zaeed wasnt loyal but everyone still survived my mission.

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All survived here aswell, twice!. Which i didnt want for my 2nd game...

I think you gotta be a complete tool to have someone die or yourself. I mean you'll need to skip like 50% of the game or a couple of loyalty missions which i dont see why because they are the entire game.

Not to mention when picking team lead its pretty obvious who can lead, who is a tech and biotic. ^_^

I was honestly hoping for some heroic choices in the end about my hero living or dying and instead i found out i gotta be a numnut the hole game if i want to end up dead. =d

Modifié par Zhijn, 04 février 2010 - 12:22 .


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any1 else dissapointed that just shepherd cant die? i think that would be interesting as it would mean in mass effect3 there would still be the new normandy but your new charcacter would have to prove himself to the crew and the alliance instead of just starting as this big powerful hero thats already got relationships and is already developed

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JamesT91 wrote...

any1 else dissapointed that just shepherd cant die? i think that would be interesting as it would mean in mass effect3 there would still be the new normandy but your new charcacter would have to prove himself to the crew and the alliance instead of just starting as this big powerful hero thats already got relationships and is already developed


actually he can die :) check youtube vids :>

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actually he can die :) check youtube vids :>


really? do u know how you have just him die?

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I sent Legion as Tech Specialist, Garrus as Squad Leader, Zaeed as Escort, and Thane as Fire Team. I had everyone Loyal and I had all ship upgrades and all weapon upgrades, missing I think 1 Tech upgrade and Mordin's and Subject Zero's Prototypes.

The only one who died was Thane, which is strange since you would think he would know his way around a gun. Hmph. Made me sad though, since he was just getting to know his son, Kolyat. Oh well, maybe I can recruit his son in ME3 :P

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JamesT91 wrote...

actually he can die :) check youtube vids :>


really? do u know how you have just him die?


check this link:


I think shepard dies if none of youre party members survievs the fall after the ending battle with this huge terminator thing :D, then there will be animation with Joker when he will try to pull you up. Another option as it is in this movie - when everyone of youre crew dies ( a lot of coffins :/ )

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Had everyone and the crew survive in my first playthrough which was on normal difficulty. Had almost all the upgrades you can get (was missing one tech damage upgrade and an SMG damage upgrade). Also had all the loyalty missions done and went in the relay immediately after the crew was abducted.



Doing an insane playthrough now and am not at the suicide mission yet but I'll let everyone knows how it turns out. If some people die it may be a factor of the difficulty and/or time spent in a section.