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[Axeface]

I lost Thane (Sent as tech specialist). Was sad

It was a very difficult decision between Thane and Tali. But in the end the crawling through shafts aspect leaned towards thane, plus in the backo f my head i wanted to keep tali close, oh how I love tali

[Talvrae]

I only lost the crew in my first playtrought

[bsparky16]

Pretty sure who dies is dependent on their loyalty, upgrades, and situation. If that is true then I think Bioware did a good job in the decision making process. That being said, I lost a couple people during the mission and was mystified as to why until reading this thread. In other words, Bioware could have done a better job explaining the rationale behind why certain did or did not die.



I thought about going through again so that everyone is alive, but the semi-bitter ending is better in the end as it gives the ending more emotional weight. When playing the game I didn't have any ulterior motives in mind when selecting people for jobs so I think the outcome is genuine. Better that then going back in and trying to fabricate an ending where everyone lives through an apparent suicide mission.



My breakdown:



- All crew loyal

- Legion as the tech spec

- Jacob as team leader one

- Samara as biotic spec

- Grunt as team leader two

- Jacob as crew escort



In the end I lost Grunt (I believe because he either was unsuitable as a leader or I might have missed one of his Krogan Vitality upgrades) and Mordin (not sure about this one, I did only have 3/5 Tech Damage upgrades). Luckily (harsh right?) neither of them was a favorite of mine. I suppose it doesn't matter though, since I'm gonna go through again and I'll prob have everything maxed to the gills at that point.

[D00GS729]

I had no one die. The triumphant post-mission walk through the ship was one of the most gratifying experiences of my gaming life.



Although, I wouldn't have minded if Zaeed died, as he meant just enough to me without me actually liking him that he only would've given it more meaning.



Also, dude's a bum.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

JamesT91 wrote...

actually he can die  check youtube vids :>

really? do u know how you have just him die?

No you are right, you can't have it that only Shep dies...

You probably can have it where Shep and 2 others die though. Basically the only way I know for Shep to die is for him to go into the final fight with 2 non-loyal members, whom due to their deaths cause Shep to be running to that ship with just Joker there.

[State_Of_Danile]

Lost Jack. didnt have her loyalty and brought her on the last mission. would have been a clean run if i hadnt brought her to kill baby arnie, but w/e she was my least liked character, i aint shedding no tears

[Lucazius]

Sabre120 wrote...

Theres a point where you can choose the dialogue "We'd better hurry" - DON'T otherwise the amount of time you spend on the last boss effects how many people die.

I choosed this.

It was obvious to me that choosing someone to "hold the line" those people would die. But, anyway, I still managed to save everyone in my first playthrought (minus the normandy crew, sorry Dr. Chakwas, couldn't risk to weaken the team), Insanity difficult.... I guess I managed to kill the last boss faster thank's to adrenaline burst (1 burst and I managed to destroy two tanks at once).

Anyway, I felt my Shepard didn't get near his death a single moment... I guess I'll make a terrible playthrough just to see him dying, lol.

[nilamu]

I wanted to have a more climatic ending so i had seven of my crew members die. I know why they did, but the only survivors were Jacob, Garrus and Thane. Although I could have gone without Jacob.

[Zhijn]

bsparky16 wrote...

Bioware could have done a better job explaining the rationale behind why certain did or did not die.

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They do throughout game tho.

Garrus told you he ran a "justic group" type, Miradan was in charge of missions and shepards recovery, & is 2nd in command to shepard aswell, Tali also got leader skills (freedom progress forexample). Rest is pretty obvious for who can do tech and bio. =P

Escort dosnt matter i think, mabye just need to be loyal(?).

To get the crew to die and yourself one pretty much gotta drop loyalty missions and pick wrong team leaders ect. And i think BioWare dropped it just a tad in that area, i mean loyalty missions are the hole game and picking the wrong leaders just dosnt make any sens unless ofc you havnt paided attention to your crews stories xD.

And since Paragon and Renegade is so easy to obtain, you just cant fail a loyalty mission unless you actual direct yourself to do it, heh.

Shepards death should have been a dragon age moment type rather then missing the hole game playing dumb.

[Darkovan]

Zhijn wrote...

All survived here aswell, twice!. Which i didnt want for my 2nd game...

I think you gotta be a complete tool to have someone die or yourself. I mean you'll need to skip like 50% of the game or a couple of loyalty missions which i dont see why because they are the entire game.

Not to mention when picking team lead its pretty obvious who can lead, who is a tech and biotic.

I was honestly hoping for some heroic choices in the end about my hero living or dying and instead i found out i gotta be a numnut the hole game if i want to end up dead. =d

I had all upgrades both ship and team and weapons/armor shields everything, every side quest done 100% of milkyway explored, sitting on roughly 200k of each resource (element zero) all characters loyal, full paragon.
I had everything completed before going to get the reaper IFF. After getting the IFF i went and completed Legions loyalty mission. I had spoken to every crew member after everything even if it meant a trip back to the ship and taking longer. I had completed every possible conversation with crew members upto there rinse and repeat eg. grunts says somthing like "i have everything battlemaster" and you cant get anymore out of him. All my crew members were like this except Garrus as my fem shep was romancing him and he just kept asking if i had changed my mind.

All crew members survived the landing.
Sent legion as Spec, maranda as fire team.
Legion got shot in the face and died as he was closing the door.
Reloaded game,
Sent garrus as Fire team, Tali as Spec.
Tali got shot in the face and died and she was closing the door.
Reloaded game.
Send Grunt as fire lead, Jacob as Spec.
Jacob got shot in the face and died as he was closing the door.
Reloaded game.
Sent Tali as fire lead, Mordin as Spec.
Mordin got shot in the face and died as he was closing the door.
Reloaded game.
kept reloading over and over tried every possible team lead, every possible Specialist.
no matter what, the specialist died irriguardless of who it was or who was leading the team.

on my second play through, this time as a male shep with both paragon and renegade low, but same deal, all side quests and loyalties completed. My tech spec all ways dies reguardless of who i send. this time however coz his paragon and renegade were split, i had to pick a side with tali/legion, maranda/jack and subsequently didn't have legion's or marandas loyalaty. reguardless they all survived except for whoever i sent as my Spec.

btw, it doesn't matter who i pick to do anything, team leads, biotic spec anything no matter what i do or say NO-ONE else dies irriguardless of my choices. All crew members of normandy survive, all other team members survive. its ONLY and ALWAYS my Tech Spec as he/she is closing the door.

So it leads me to conclude that, 1, the potential for people to die is decided before leaving for the suicide mission and, 2, i've missed somthing in both my play throughs that causes the tech spec to die.

Gotto be a complete tool to have people die? i dont think so.

Im playing through again, this time on insane as an adept. Hoping i dont miss whatever it is I've missed in the other 2 play throughs. Although im having trouble figuring out what that is exactly.

Modifié par Darkovan, 04 février 2010 - 03:47 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

There were no casualties in my game. I had everyone's loyalty, all the upgrades, Legion as tech guy and Samara as the Biotic. The second team leader was Miranda. The crew didn't die either, unfortunately that Colonist did die, I wish there was something that could've been done about her.

[Runsta]

had the same logic as axeface

[Totec]

Lost Miranda (I don't care what anyone says, she makes the game), Tali, Grunt and Samara.

What I've seen so far....

Do NOT take Samara along during the bubble phase as a squad member. She always dies. Good bubbler, bad squaddie for that part.

Tali ALWAYS seems to get teabagged by a rocket if you send her in the pipe, regardless of upgrades\\loyalty.

Garrus leading the 2nd squad = win.
Thane leading the survivors back to Normandy = win.
Grunt leading the diversion group = FAIL!!

[Kwonnern]

Didn't lose one Squadmember at all, but lost crew!

Grunt was my Tech-Expert
Samara Fireteam1
Grunt as Biotic Specialist
Legion Fireteam2
Grunt as Escort



















Just kidding

Had Tali as Tech
Jacob as Fireteam1
Samara as Biotic Specialist
Garrus as Fireteam2
Jacob as Escort

Modifié par Kwonnern, 04 février 2010 - 04:07 .

[silhouette80]

No one on the squad died, but unfortunately Yeoman Chambers was pureed.

[Ninniach Lina]

No losses.

[077Lasombra]

Had all loyalties minus Jack (who died after boss fight). Most upgrades, missed one or two for tech, one for biotic dmg, smg upgrades..maybe one or two others.



Legion as Tech

Garrus Team 1

Samara as Biotic

Garrus Team 2

Grunt Escort

Final Shep team- Samar & Jack and Jack died in the fall (had all upgrades for her except...one biotic dmg i think but lost her loyalty in her and miranda fight )

[cipher86]

Legion. I was very sad

[Javablood]

I had the loyalty of everyone but Zaeed (not paragon enough to chill him out after letting Vido escape).

My ship upgrades were 100%. My squad upgrades were at least 30%, most were higher.

Legion did the tech job.

Miranda always lead the Alternate squads.

Jacob escorted the crew back.

Jack made the biotic shield.

=absolutely everyone lived.

[Sklibbles]

Didn't lose anyone, woot. Had full loyalty and all normandy upgrades

[Azazelbishop]

Darkovan wrote...
All crew members survived the landing.
Sent legion as Spec, maranda as fire team.
Legion got shot in the face and died as he was closing the door.
Reloaded game,
Sent garrus as Fire team, Tali as Spec.
Tali got shot in the face and died and she was closing the door.
Reloaded game.
Send Grunt as fire lead, Jacob as Spec.
Jacob got shot in the face and died as he was closing the door.
Reloaded game.
Sent Tali as fire lead, Mordin as Spec.
Mordin got shot in the face and died as he was closing the door.
Reloaded game.
kept reloading over and over tried every possible team lead, every possible Specialist.
no matter what, the specialist died irriguardless of who it was or who was leading the team.

I'm in the same boat no matter what who ever i send into the vents gets a rocket in the face, i have all upgrades for both ship and crew so WTF is mising then ?

[Kenthen]

I didn't lose anyone which is actually kind of sad. It didn't really feel like I had to work for it when we were actually at the Collector base.
From the sound of it I may have gotten lucky though but I'm actually considering having a few people get killed off in a NG+ or something. It just doesn't seem like I made it through a big, freaky suicide mission if everyone makes it.

Modifié par Kenthen, 04 février 2010 - 06:02 .

[hexaligned]

I just lost Miranda at the very end when a beam fell on her (lol?), I guess she should have been wearing some actual armor and not a leotard.



I had Legion do the tech mission, with Garrus as my team 2 leader.

[Totec]

relhart wrote...

I just lost Miranda at the very end when a beam fell on her (lol?), I guess she should have been wearing some actual armor and not a leotard.

Don't you dare take away that leotard, unless you plan on putting her into an N7 bikini.

[Collider]

I send Thane through the vents (seemed like the logical option) as he DID go through the vents to kill Nassana and infiltrate her place. But he got owned in the face. He was going to die soon anyway, so I didn't really care. Also helps that I didn't particularly care for him, he was kind of boring. If it somehow affects who dies in the vent position, I believe I sent Zaeed as leader, SuZe to escort the crew back, Samara to keep up the barrier, and Garrus for diversion. Only Thane died.

Modifié par Collider, 04 février 2010 - 07:42 .