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[Eternal Dust]

FutureBoy81 wrote...

So now there is a request for gay sheperd does this now mean bioware will add this for the third installation, the same way there were multiple complaint threads about the mako, so bioware removed it ?

Well, if Tali and Garrus fans got what they wanted by complaining loud enough, then maybe this will work too.

As for the Mako, you're still getting the Hammerhead. It's not completely removed. Just revamped.

[Akir2k9]

This is technically the same complaint as "Why doesn't Shepard like heavy metal, rock, pop, hip hop, why does/doesn't Shepard like cereal".

The sexual orientation of the character is just another of those things to add on the list, it is simply that the homosexual (gay/lesbian/bi etc.) demographic feel the need to right themselves, you are already included in so many ways in more than just this single medium, stop creating fuss about something so trivial, just because there's no male homosexual interaction in the game doesn't mean it's going to impact your life majorly, I could understand if it was a leading figure of a country during a talk but a game that is fiction is really beyond anything but silly.

This whole conversation goes hand in hand with racial debates, I could complain Bioware left out Native American's (sorry if that is not the correct term), although I have not played through the second game yet so I'm not sure.



I do not mean to offend anyone with this post I am just stating my perspective of this whole debate.

[LolaRuns]

I don't see why it would be such a problem. Like, why would it have to alter Shep/the story all that much? When it could be achieved by switching out a few pronouns. Maybe hide it a bit deeper inside the dialog tree so people won't stumble across it accidentally if they just want to play the game. That way it wouldn't have to be disruptive of any poor frightened psyches.

But of course that wouldn't be it. Because you would have the completist who would insist that if it exists they HAVE to play it and that would be so cruel. When really, if you don't like it, just don't bark up that tree. Anything else is poor self control.

Now, it doesn't change my deeper opinion of the game or affect my decision whether or not to buy ME3. But it is a bit 'roll your eyes' worthy. The whole point is that it wouldn't need a ton of changes. The romance angle to the whole game already exists, the characters already exist, even part of the dialogs already exist.

I think what it boils down is that IMO Shep is straight (or rather girl loving) because ME2 isn't as RPG-like as they claim. Shep has a personality. His. Of his own. As opposed to a true RPG where you should be allowed to largely give your character any personality you wish. IMO the bigger problem is the marketing gag of acting like ME is all that RPG.

Modifié par LolaRuns, 01 février 2010 - 12:24 .

[Akir2k9]

I suppose in time if there happens to be a tool set for said game then it will be included in no time. Simple copy, paste, edit a few things here and there and there you have it.

[trh5001]

I think plot wise it would be hard to add a gay shepard if only for the reason of how do you explain his sudden attraction to men?

[Arik7]

Akir2k9 wrote...

This is technically the same complaint as "Why doesn't Shepard like heavy metal, rock, pop, hip hop, why does/doesn't Shepard like cereal".

We don't know what kind of music/food Shepard likes.  It's not a part of the game.  Romances are a part of the game.  It is supposed to be the climax of a relationship with one of your team members.

The sexual orientation of the character is just another of those things to add on the list, it is simply that the homosexual (gay/lesbian/bi etc.) demographic feel the need to right themselves, you are already included in so many ways in more than just this single medium, stop creating fuss about something so trivial, just because there's no male homosexual interaction in the game doesn't mean it's going to impact your life majorly,

Nobody is saying it's going to have major implications on anybody's life.  This is a video game forum.

This whole conversation goes hand in hand with racial debates, I could complain Bioware left out Native American's (sorry if that is not the correct term), although I have not played through the second game yet so I'm not sure.

  Isn't Dr. Chakwas Native American?   You may also customize your Shepard's race.

Modifié par Arik7, 01 février 2010 - 12:37 .

[Arik7]

trh5001 wrote...

I think plot wise it would be hard to add a gay shepard if only for the reason of how do you explain his sudden attraction to men?

It doesn't have to be sudden, and it shouldn't need an explanation in the 22nd century.

[Ninja Mage]

I'm so glad that **** Abriael Cg whatever the hell stopped posting. He basically said that Shepard is a male and any iteration you have in game is simply non-canon. WRONG. My shepard has been gay since mass effect 1, thats why you can choose dialogue options with paragon or renegade. It's YOUR story. But all this has been said ad-infinitum and some people are just talking out of thier ass now.

[BLAHBLUE2001]

Switch296 wrote...

Look guys, when it comes down it, there will never be a gay romance option in ME2 or ME3. Its been confirmed by Bioware.

The majority of the community would not appreciate it, they would probably hate on the character, it would spark all kinds of controversy(Fox news anyone?) and its just un-needed. Probably only 2% or less of people that play mass effect are homosexual and probably only 5% would actually want a homosexual relationship in the game.

The way our society percieves homosexuality at the moment, having a gay romance subplot in the game would be distasteful, unneeded and would stop a lot of parents from buying their children the game once it makes it onto the news.

Gay Romances have no place in the Mass Effect trilogy, not in the day and age we live in.

So what about Fem Shepard and Kelly or Liara? I haven't heard of DA or The Fable series impacting game sales because they included gay romances. If anything when a game, movie, etc is in the news they tend to make more money... 

Everyone is entitled to there opinion. I think the option to have Male Shep have a gay romance should be there as it is with Fem Shep, its an option... use it if you want or skip it if you don't. I would just like the same options with Male Shepard as I have with Fem Shepard. :innocent:

[FataliTensei]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

Arik7 wrote...
So no one is the galaxy is gay besides your Shepard?  That's not very realistic....

Remember, only 2% of the human population is gay.  That percentage may be higher or lower in other species.  Now add in the expanse of the galaxy.  It could be years before you meet another gay or lesbian, and even then the relationship may or may not work out.  Because of this, in my ever so humble opinion, is why I think bisexualism will probably be practiced more than homosexuality when we actually do develop FTL in the real world.

I am not against homosexuality in game.  I just want anything they put in the story to make sense.

That's the lowest range of he statistic, the highest is 18%, most people tend to believe it's somewhere around 1 in 10, possibly more but due to social pressures alot of people don't answer truthfully when asked, even on annonymous serveys.

[Arik7]

Talk about statistics.... What are the chances of your military squad being filled with large-breasted women?

[biddypocket]

BLAHBLUE2001 wrote...

So what about Fem Shepard and Kelly or Liara? I haven't heard of DA or The Fable series impacting game sales because they included gay romances. If anything when a game, movie, etc is in the news they tend to make more money... 

Everyone is entitled to there opinion. I think the option to have Male Shep have a gay romance should be there as it is with Fem Shep, its an option... use it if you want or skip it if you don't. I would just like the same options with Male Shepard as I have with Fem Shepard. :innocent:

Haven't you heard? Lesbian romances don't  count because pubescent striaght guys think they're hot.

[Arik7]

And who could forget that emotionally engaging romance with Kelly. It's just so important to the story.

[BLAHBLUE2001]

Arik7 wrote...

And who could forget that emotionally engaging romance with Kelly. It's just so important to the story.

Its as important to the story as changing the color of Shep's armor lol. Its just nice to have the option...

Modifié par BLAHBLUE2001, 01 février 2010 - 01:29 .

[biddypocket]

Arik7 wrote...

And who could forget that emotionally engaging romance with Kelly. It's just so important to the story.

It was like watching Titanic...I almost  cried.

[Radahldo]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

biddypocket wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

And who could forget that emotionally engaging romance with Kelly. It's just so important to the story.

It was like watching Titanic...I almost  cried.

Really I thought it was more like watching a train wreck. You know you shouldn't watch but you just can't look away. 

I really enjoyed Victor Garber in that movie. 

[Policyofnoreturn]

Look at all the threads about romance - clearly people enjoy them. Not having a single same-sex romance option when bothering to create 6 heterosexual ones for people to enjoy is disappointing. If I had a vote in Bioware's development I'd say include same-sex romance or remove all romances altogether in ME 3 (and watch the backlash as fans realize the option has been taken from them)....

Modifié par Policyofnoreturn, 01 février 2010 - 01:50 .

[Justin2k]

No offence, not homophobic or anything like this.

But not everyone needs to be gay/bi-sexual.  Its like when they were talking about a gay james bond.  Just no.

Shephard is a manly man and likes women.  It's his character.  It would be wrong to have him wearing pink and kissing guys.

Homosexuality has its places, but not in ME.  Or at least not with shephard.

[biddypocket]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

*facepalms*

Also Shep does have pink armor I'd give a link but its spoilery. >_>

And honestly GTFO with the Shep not being gay. Shep is anything you want Shep to be. Including FEMALE.

God I'm sick of that BS argument.

And I don't think anyone is arguing to make all the crewmates BI or even romanceable. Just for one option. <_<

But of course if someone is homosexual and lets their preferences be known around you their "infringing on your space." even if they're not hitting on you right. <_<

Amen, sister.

[BLAHBLUE2001]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

No offence, not homophobic or anything like this.

But not everyone needs to be gay/bi-sexual.  Its like when they were talking about a gay james bond.  Just no.

Shephard is a manly man and likes women.  It's his character.  It would be wrong to have him wearing pink and kissing guys.

Homosexuality has its places, but not in ME.  Or at least not with shephard.

*facepalms*

Also Shep does have pink armor I'd give a link but its spoilery. >_>

And honestly GTFO with the Shep not being gay. Shep is anything you want Shep to be. Including FEMALE.

God I'm sick of that BS argument.

And I don't think anyone is arguing to make all the crewmates BI or even romanceable. Just for one option. <_<

But of course if someone is homosexual and lets their preferences be known around you their "infringing on your space." even if they're not hitting on you right. <_<

Edit: Not only is Shep's armor Pink It's HOT pink!

Exactly! I really couldn't have put it better. 

[hitorihanzo]

Kozlovskiy wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

No. Not going to happen in this game. Get used to it.

Sorry.

Don't get me wrong I want this as much as you do. But apparently the demographic that likes shooters are too immature/homophobic to deal with anything other than shallow lesbian romances. >_>

That's not cool. What happened to gay rights?

Seriously, dude? 

BioWare doesn't have anything against gay rights.  They created a character that is heterosexual, and like aliens.  That's all.